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colinfx

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Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:54:39 PM

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:46:17 PM

I took the comment down as I am trying to avoid some argument. But yes, I did feel like it is a threat to "crash the market" that you are making. I spend most of my time elsewhere and this thread grows so fast I can't keep up with it.

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

I do not argue over legitimate concerns. You are entitled to support whomever you want, but if a large majority of the community does not have faith in their business management skills there is a problem. Just because someone is a brilliant coder or community manager, doesn't mean they can run a multi-million dollar project.

OK lets discuss facts and not post FUD...in the past 8 weeks what has the dev team done in regards to PR?

Herein lies part of the problem. Your argument is based on a false premise which I have highlighted above.

I do not believe that "a large majority of the community" shares your views on the Dev team. I don't understand why can't you just carry on with your style of PR work and let the Dev team, Legion and Community Management do their "Official" work? They've done a splendid job so far and I want it to continue as it is.

XbladeX

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Quote from: Wulfcastle on May 03, 2014, 02:02:02 PM

I feel sorry for the author of this article, but for what it's worth it's a funny read : https://medium.com/crypto-articles/7fce4b2279c7

TLDR;

-Author owns 750 000 AsiaCoins
-Author dumped BlackCoins to get AsiaCoins
-Author claims AC will hit 100K Satoshis in a few months
-Author claims AC will steamroll BC

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/3/asiacoin-proof-of-3-billion-extra-coins-in-existence?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
ASIACOIN : PROOF OF 3 BILLION EXTRA COINS IN EXISTENCE
muahahaha

IconicExpert

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Quote from: mr_random on May 03, 2014, 01:51:22 PM

Iconic my suggestion is to move the bulk of your activities over to r/blackcoin I don't know why but there is virtually no arguing over there. And of course you will encounter far less trolls.

I also agree with Colinfx, we need to all be on the same team here. The Blackcoin foundation can do their marketing, you can do your marketing. There is room for both.

Blackcoin has had a great day! Let's build on this upward price momentum, get our heads down, and work!

Did we all forget last week already? When I did do my own promotion and got the support of the community, did you forget what happened?

http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive

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Gritt N. Auld • 4 days ago
I want to point out that the march on Wallstreet is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Blackcoin Foundation. It is an idea by IconicExpert who is a community member on our forums. It is also currently being funded by the community.

So some are saying there is room for both, but then when someone else (me) does take the initiative the "Foundation" didn't waste time to discredit my efforts.

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Disclaimer

For anyone who reads this Iconic Expert is just a community member. He doesn't represent the views of the entire community and or dev team. He is not part of the dev team or have the power to make any decision on any business related matter on regards to BlackCoin.

when ever you are ready to leave IE let me know so I can gladly buy your coins.

ThankYOU

For the ones who care big things are coming for the next episode of the BLACkCast.. I do things with my own pocket for this community, don't need to be picking ideas for DONATIONS.

IF YOU ARE A BIG PLAYER PAY UP LIKE I DO let's see you do the NY event with your pocket and the cards. Watch what I do for this community with my pockets..

XbladeX

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Quote from: keshuker on May 03, 2014, 01:54:59 PM

.....

Let the clowns move to other coins, BC is not up for hijacking.

If you care for BC, do you think abandoning rat4, LDG and Seopkip is a good idea?

Never will be Cheesy

but all we shoud be able to do tokeep moving fowrward even without them.
This is strenght.
Rat4 goes on vacation and we have to have someone who will be able to help in problems.
Allso rat4,Soepkip like me and you won't live forever.

Wulfcastle

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I feel sorry for the author of this article, but for what it's worth it's a funny read : https://medium.com/crypto-articles/7fce4b2279c7

TLDR;

-Author owns 750 000 AsiaCoins
-Author dumped BlackCoins to get AsiaCoins
-Author claims AC will hit 100K Satoshis in a few months
-Author claims AC will steamroll BC

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Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:54:39 PM

but if a large majority of the community does not have faith in their business management skills

I've seen mostly support for their PR campaign, and likewise with your WS campaign.

XbladeX

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Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:32:38 PM

....

If you are not behind the Dev team then you should sell your coins. We all need to be behind the Dev team. Encouraging people to rise-up against the Dev team will destroy our investments.

I agree we shouldn't shoot at each other.
But Dev never will be driver of that train like with BTC and others if dev team is drives it will be to easy to shut it down.
But we don't want get in that trap...
We need to be confident in that:
When Soepkip leave BC we will move forward.
When IE will leave we will move forward.
When rat4 will leave we will move forward.
...and this is true decentralization and strength.

We vote with BC in each diretion we will go...
You like PR profesional capagain donate there..
You like wallstreet donate Wallstreet...
we all vote with BC everyday guys.

Anyway IE was and will be that sharp guy with high goals and Soepkip will be that steady calm men who push slowly goals forward.
But Soepkip is hard working too...
We need more people like them not only foundation that should be clear.
To keep being decentralized and rising even more than BTC.
FOR GLORY OF BC !

PS:
But no mater what IE,Soepkip and others are doing most for people will whine...
Or we will make self moderated thered for proejects only and kick haters Cheesy

for some cryinghere

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Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:54:39 PM

OK lets discuss facts and not post FUD...in the past 8 weeks what has the dev team done in regards to PR?

There you go again, knocking the dev team. You do your marketing, let them do theirs.

MuffinMaster

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Pepemo.vip

Quote from: keshuker on May 03, 2014, 01:54:59 PM

+100000

Let the clowns move to other coins, BC is not up for hijacking.

If you care for BC, do you think abandoning rat4, LDG and Seopkip is a good idea?

We are witnessing a decent into madness, where shit IE says doesn't pass the smell test.

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aka. dibdab

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:46:17 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:40:10 PM

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:32:38 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:30:34 PM

Quote from: valarmg on May 03, 2014, 01:23:54 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:12:11 PM

There are people in this community who want control given back to the community. They no longer want the foundation speaking for BC, nor do they want the dev team controlling the direction of BC. If the foundation and the dev team are not trying to control BC, then they should have no problem handing control over back over to the community...period

First, you talk for some of the community not all.
Second, why talk about control. There is no control. The foundation and the dev team will do their thing; you do your thing. The community supports both or either. Why set up the division?
Third, there will be trolls in a thread like this. People will attack. But they are just attacking a screenname, just ignore them. By responding and fighting back, you only feed them by adding fuel to the fire. In a series of insults, both sides generally look bad, and the troll is the one who wins (no matter how wrong they are).

I never said or implied I spoke for the entire community. Also, there is central control where you like it or not and that is the problem.

Will the dev team give access to the twitter account so another active member can Tweet regularly?
Will the dev team give access to the Facebook account so active members can update the page with useful information?

If you are not behind the Dev team then you should sell your coins. We all need to be behind the Dev team. Encouraging people to rise-up against the Dev team will destroy our investments.

Ok lets tone it down a bit. If you look at my plan yesterday I proposed the dev team focus on the technology and let the community focus on PR and the business side of things. I see nothing wrong with that since the dev team PR efforts have been lacking.

To your previous question before you deleted it... This is the kind of hypocrisy that goes on around here. When Muffin threatened to leave and take a few people with him, why didn't you call him out on that? But when I respond you just focus on my comment? I have no desire to harm my investment or the investment of others. I didn't work this hard to watch it all burn. But ill be damned if I keep letting people threaten and personally bash me. I will say again...when someone posted the fake IP address and claimed I was from India where was the outrage then? When I posted definitive proof I was from the Tri - State area...where was the apologies? I guess I am being held to one standard while others are not....

I took the comment down as I am trying to avoid some argument. But yes, I did feel like it is a threat to "crash the market" that you are making. I spend most of my time elsewhere and this thread grows so fast I can't keep up with it.

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

+100000

Let the clowns move to other coins, BC is not up for hijacking.

If you care for BC, do you think abandoning rat4, LDG and Seopkip is a good idea?

IconicExpert

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Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:46:17 PM

I took the comment down as I am trying to avoid some argument. But yes, I did feel like it is a threat to "crash the market" that you are making. I spend most of my time elsewhere and this thread grows so fast I can't keep up with it.

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

I do not argue over legitimate concerns. You are entitled to support whomever you want, but if a large majority of the community does not have faith in their business management skills there is a problem. Just because someone is a brilliant coder or community manager, doesn't mean they can run a multi-million dollar project.

OK lets discuss facts and not post FUD...in the past 8 weeks what has the dev team done in regards to PR?

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and after reading that ... go to these

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:17:20 PM

If you seriously want to help BlackCoin consider abandoning this thread.

#BlackCoin holders, sign up here...

1) http://blackcointalk.com
2) http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

Come join the supporters!

vizique

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Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:46:17 PM

...snipped

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

worth reading again

Subtuppel

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Blackcoin #3 in volume today !

WC, AC, Cinni and Flutter have finally deflated.

AC is dead. they are obviously trying to continue the scam with a relaunch.
It has already been delisted at Mintpal, dropped to ~220 AT at cryptsy although currently some insane people issue buy orders around 600 - most likely a trap.

Of course i am only watching. never touched AC or WC...

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So you are proposing splitting the community? Because that is what will happen and cause more confusion than we have now. You cannot have two communities claiming and representing the same coin...

Ok stop right now Iconic. Really. How hard is it to just do your thing and be quiet about business? If you didnt start the whole fud,egoboosting, and 'competition' about how you are better then the devteam then all this crappy talk for the last 10 pages wouldnt even exist. The Blackcoin foundation can do their marketing, you can do your marketing. There is room for both.

In reply to your post: Are you really not understanding that a community can have different sources that spread information/projects?

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Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:49:24 PM

So you are proposing splitting the community? Because that is what will happen and cause more confusion than we have now. You cannot have two communities claiming and representing the same coin...

Iconic plz stop this language. No-one is proposing to split the community.

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:40:10 PM

Ok lets tone it down a bit. If you look at my plan yesterday I proposed the dev team focus on the technology and let the community focus on PR and the business side of things. I see nothing wrong with that since the dev team PR efforts have been lacking.

To your previous question before you deleted it... This is the kind of hypocrisy that goes on around here. When Muffin threatened to leave and take a few people with him, why didn't you call him out on that? But when I respond you just focus on my comment? I have no desire to harm my investment or the investment of others. I didn't work this hard to watch it all burn. But ill be damned if I keep letting people threaten and personally bash me. I will say again...when someone posted the fake IP address and claimed I was from India where was the outrage then? When I posted definitive proof I was from the Tri - State area...where was the apologies? I guess I am being held to one standard while others are not....

Iconic my suggestion is to move the bulk of your activities over to r/blackcoin I don't know why but there is virtually no arguing over there. And of course you will encounter far less trolls.

I also agree with Colinfx, we need to all be on the same team here. The Blackcoin foundation can do their marketing, you can do your marketing. There is room for both.

Blackcoin has had a great day! Let's build on this upward price momentum, get our heads down, and work!

IconicExpert

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Quote from: valarmg on May 03, 2014, 01:39:21 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:30:34 PM

Quote from: valarmg on May 03, 2014, 01:23:54 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:12:11 PM

There are people in this community who want control given back to the community. They no longer want the foundation speaking for BC, nor do they want the dev team controlling the direction of BC. If the foundation and the dev team are not trying to control BC, then they should have no problem handing control over back over to the community...period

First, you talk for some of the community not all.
Second, why talk about control. There is no control. The foundation and the dev team will do their thing; you do your thing. The community supports both or either. Why set up the division?
Third, there will be trolls in a thread like this. People will attack. But they are just attacking a screenname, just ignore them. By responding and fighting back, you only feed them by adding fuel to the fire. In a series of insults, both sides generally look bad, and the troll is the one who wins (no matter how wrong they are).

I never said or implied I spoke for the entire community. Also, there is central control where you like it or not and that is the problem.

Will the dev team give access to the twitter account so another active member can Tweet regularly?
Will the dev team give access to the Facebook account so active members can update the page with useful information?

You already said you own GoBlackCoin.com, set up a GoBlackCoin twitter page, and a GoBlackCoin facebook page. Have a two pronged approach to spreading the word, with neither better or worse than the other. As long as both approaches don't attack each other, then both will benefit the project. And whichever is the most successful at spreading the word will become the most dominant marketing weapon of Blackcoin.

So you are proposing splitting the community? Because that is what will happen and cause more confusion than we have now. You cannot have two communities claiming and representing the same coin...

colinfx

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Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:40:10 PM

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 01:32:38 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:30:34 PM

Quote from: valarmg on May 03, 2014, 01:23:54 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 01:12:11 PM

There are people in this community who want control given back to the community. They no longer want the foundation speaking for BC, nor do they want the dev team controlling the direction of BC. If the foundation and the dev team are not trying to control BC, then they should have no problem handing control over back over to the community...period

First, you talk for some of the community not all.
Second, why talk about control. There is no control. The foundation and the dev team will do their thing; you do your thing. The community supports both or either. Why set up the division?
Third, there will be trolls in a thread like this. People will attack. But they are just attacking a screenname, just ignore them. By responding and fighting back, you only feed them by adding fuel to the fire. In a series of insults, both sides generally look bad, and the troll is the one who wins (no matter how wrong they are).

I never said or implied I spoke for the entire community. Also, there is central control where you like it or not and that is the problem.

Will the dev team give access to the twitter account so another active member can Tweet regularly?
Will the dev team give access to the Facebook account so active members can update the page with useful information?

If you are not behind the Dev team then you should sell your coins. We all need to be behind the Dev team. Encouraging people to rise-up against the Dev team will destroy our investments.

Ok lets tone it down a bit. If you look at my plan yesterday I proposed the dev team focus on the technology and let the community focus on PR and the business side of things. I see nothing wrong with that since the dev team PR efforts have been lacking.

To your previous question before you deleted it... This is the kind of hypocrisy that goes on around here. When Muffin threatened to leave and take a few people with him, why didn't you call him out on that? But when I respond you just focus on my comment? I have no desire to harm my investment or the investment of others. I didn't work this hard to watch it all burn. But ill be damned if I keep letting people threaten and personally bash me. I will say again...when someone posted the fake IP address and claimed I was from India where was the outrage then? When I posted definitive proof I was from the Tri - State area...where was the apologies? I guess I am being held to one standard while others are not....

I took the comment down as I am trying to avoid some argument. But yes, I did feel like it is a threat to "crash the market" that you are making. I spend most of my time elsewhere and this thread grows so fast I can't keep up with it.

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

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