Topic: [ANN] Blacknet | IBO for BlackCoin | New code | PoS | No ICO - page 397. (Read 2509934 times)

what makes u think that trolls wont follow you to the subreddit. you need to learn how to deal with trolls professionally. ur responses to them dirty this community by your own hands. and then you still have to face reverse-trolls. never heard about them? well it's when you have a sturdy measure for dealing with trolls and everything seems like it is finally getting under control.. and then a rage of impolite trolls overtake the thread attempting to have the community take the responsibility for their deplorable remarks and behaviour. and they will succeed, until this community starts shunning such behaviour.. and possibly mentioning that "the views posted by this bitcointalk user are not the views of the blackcoin community as a whole."


personally, i never thought hitler videos on a coin seeking investment from the jewish community was a good idea. and our community allowed jew jokes and mild bashing to occur without reprimand. any forum you establish a presence at will attract trolls. and the community has to be well knowledgeable in dealing with it wherever it rears it's ugly head. u cant run from trolls .. theyre everywhere.

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I will, however, stay here until this thread is finally closed. We can't leave this for the trolls only as long as it is amongst the top google/whatever search results for "BlackCoin".
IMO, we should ask for this thread to be closed with a final message where to find us then, and move on to the subreddit and/or a self moderated and self hosted forum.

wow myriadcoin takes a jump to #1. I can't say I saw that coming!

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I'll say this clearly: Bitcointalk can never be a professional home for our web community. As long as outsiders see this fucking thread as the 'base' of Blackcoin, trolls and the drama they incite will impact the value of your investment. Say what you will about reddit, our subreddit appears professional to the outside world and legitimate discussion can go on there without constant interruption. Guarantee you the value of Blackcoin would go up if it became known that this thread isn't the home of Blackcoin.

The subreddit has tripled in a few weeks. It's almost at critical mass to where it will be legitimate to say, 'no, this thread doesn't represent Blackcoin. Go to the subreddit or official forums'. And that's what we need to be done, because there will always be trolls and people spreading FUD here. That's practically the point of these forums. There are hundreds of altcoin threads and many interested in keeping the 'daily new coin' game alive.

If we were #1, would we be here? No, so let's make the change as it's a step towards that.

Can you explain what protocol we are changing to or how things will be different?

Based on many of the opinions here - IconicExpert - I'm afraid you're going to have to accept that although you have done much and have much more planned... that it is not the only reason people are invested in BC, but that a decent group of those who are support you and your initiatives.  At the same time that I agree that problems were created from the 'inside circle' - as it stands today - this isn't the way to resolve that.  Do what you do best, let them do what they do best... and let the rest of the community do what it does best - support whatever it believes is in it's best interests.  Human resource problems are the least of our concerns at the moment... survival and stability are.

There will be time as a community to call for censure or 'management changes' if we survive our first year of existence... if not then all of this was a waste in the first place - but if we start worrying about who get's the bronze bust in the foyer... we're all going to be holding $0.001 BC's not $10.00 BC's.

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You sir, little Hitler, are full of shit.
 

No pointless drama on the subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

Subreddit is full of facts, legitimate discussion, project ideas + implementation. Go here if you're sick of the stealth trolls and dick waving contests of BTCtalk.  

I wasn't going to intervene in the new, even more outrageous initiative of this little Hitler under the IconicExpert handle, but I just have to point out what it is plain obvious about the guy. You, little Hitler, are poison. To the BlackCoin project and to any community, because you are a dictator who just cannot stand not just criticism -in spite of so many aberrant ideas- but even the more elemental rights anyone can have to sustain and very educatedly, defend their opinions. Who the fuck are you to submit to vote if I should or shouldn't be banned? Who the fuck do you think you are to manipulate such initiative by constantly and unfairly judge and condemn the effects of my posts? who the fuck are you to even talk about me other than on a direct, personal basis, as is the right of everyone on any public forum? You are a despicable, little, insignificant individual whose actions and words put himself in the place where he belongs: That on someone who has to be taken seriously ONLY because he has the potential, under the proper circumstances, of causing severe damage to others, some irrational tool bent of outrageous greed and egocentric behavior lacking any capability whatsoever of self-criticism, restraint or even the most basic reasoning.

I will be here calling it like it is, whether coming from you or coming from whoever, get it? You sir are dangerous and despicable, again. And need to be filtered constantly like you have been in recent past, not allowed to cause any damage. Because that is what you did with your outrageous outburst regarding WC, that is what you would have done if allowed to pursue your initiative to manipulate the BC market and that is probably what you will do marching on Wall Street with your 50 escorts. And yet, I won't advocate for your banning of that of anyone else, no matter how crazy or outrageous. You are, for many, the demoralizing, raging greedy tool in this board, the idiot that post that 360% growth (in exchange price, that is, the only growth you care about), is not just achievable but sustainable. You sir, are the one that STILL hasn't answered the question posed and posted many times: Why the fucking rush? What is the objective of this "help" to the community? Selling more cards for significant profit? dumping the coins when the price gets to a higher level? What? Furthermore, why don't you just make public your wallet so we can see what your level of interest in the future of BlackCoin is, for real, and we all can witness that you are in it for the long haul and for the good and the future of the coin and the community?

You sir, little Hitler, are full of shit.
 

I agree whole heartedly, and I want to make it abundantly clear that although I support and desire there to be as much marketing and PR as possible, I feel the pool being up, fully transparent, and optimized is absolutely required for BC to show consistent gains.  In no way to I feel that even 100 of IE's campaigns would single-handedly turn BC into a real investment opportunity... although they would definitely be likely to pump the price to a point where my exit would be very sweet... ultimately they would not be able to support the coin alone and it would collapse like a dot-com-bubble-IPO back in 2000.

The point that many people on both sides seem to disagree on highly - and this is sad - is that no one person or group of people will lead to BC's dominance in the CC marketplace... but it is entirely possible that one person or a group of people (if they are determined/destructive enough) to destroy it.

The bottom line is this... no one needs to have the "last word" - I think we're all well aware of the fact that some people support IE and his marketing initiatives, some people support the idea that a 'central management team' is in control, and other support none of the above.  No matter what we either have to figure out how to swallow our pride - and just work together - or sell out and move along.

Based on many of the opinions here - IconicExpert - I'm afraid you're going to have to accept that although you have done much and have much more planned... that it is not the only reason people are invested in BC, but that a decent group of those who are support you and your initiatives.  At the same time that I agree that problems were created from the 'inside circle' - as it stands today - this isn't the way to resolve that.  Do what you do best, let them do what they do best... and let the rest of the community do what it does best - support whatever it believes is in it's best interests.  Human resource problems are the least of our concerns at the moment... survival and stability are.

There will be time as a community to call for censure or 'management changes' if we survive our first year of existence... if not then all of this was a waste in the first place - but if we start worrying about who get's the bronze bust in the foyer... we're all going to be holding $0.001 BC's not $10.00 BC's.

the multipool's failure is a direct result of poor profitability. regardless of multipool comparisons.. i am able to do .01+ btc per mh mining other coins and buying bc manually. this blows out any multipool's profitability currently. so u have to ask yourself, why would i mine a multipool when i can gather more investment power myself.

this has to do with the fact that where multipools go, coins are dumped.. significantly lowering the profitability to mining time because of the multipool's heartless abuse of the chosen coin to mine on their buy order book. i message soepkip/iconic about my concern regarding thisa couple weeks ago i think it was and was assured that measures would be put in place to mitigate it.

but now we have a further problem. as many know crypto is a flowing, moving and changing game. you have to calculate every day and sometimes 4-5 times a day. running a multipool efficiently is hard work. it means calculating and searching for the highest profitability option all day.. searching the markets. im pretty sure the multipool doesnt do this and is as a result re-active to profitable coins rather than pro-active.

i recommend some upgrades for the multipool and more prizes. noone cares about knc miner because they wont win. i believe that will be the general consensus of most miners.. especially small time.

1. give users the ability to stipulate their bid price on the bc orderbook through their account
2. also give them the option to hold certain coins the multipool mines (good coin expected to rise in a couple days will increase individual profitability and investment in bc)
3. multipool owners must keep up to date on new currencies with good potential and investment backing so that they can be added as option in the multipool asap upon being added to an exchange.

i disagree with most here on the power of the multipool. i believe that attracting investors to invest via the multipool is the surest way of gaining investors who will hold for more than a rise from 27k to 30k before they dump/downtrade the margin. i think it is in this communities best interest to make use of the multipool as attractive as possible.. and then make it more attractive. this is our baby.. and i dont think we should give up pioneering further usefulness out of it.

im all for PR on the coin. but maybe we can catch 2 birds with one stone by doing some pr on the multipool. ill voice my opinion once more, that i think multiple cheaper prizes will give hope to many more miners entering and increase the probability in their minds that they might actually win something. think about $10k in prizes given via multipool to loyal miners. this will encourage users never to leave the multipool.

good luck with the wallstreet bid. im not sure how the professionals there would take it. but this whole campaign may have worked alot better if there were already blackcoin atms around so ppl can go buy some blackcoin to put on their empty wallet gifts they just got. meh, i can go on. but i feel like noone listens to me on here and just overlook my posts.. whatever.

Again, the lack of control by a certain few is astounding.  Remember that once you post, it's out there for everyone to see.....forever.  Think big picture and what that would do to your credibility if you flip flop sides and/or can't control your unprofessional behavior.  All this useless banter does nothing for you or the value of your BC holdings. If the size of your sack matters or that you must get the last word, then talk to your sack in private.  There will be no debate there.    

Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.