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BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street
This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.
I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!
So what is the big idea?
We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.
Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.
1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.
2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.
3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.
4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.
What will the main event accomplish?
This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.
a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!
b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.
c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.
What is needed to make this a success?
Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc
Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.
Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.
Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!
This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.
To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.
Below is the donation address (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.
BC Contribution Address: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
As suggested I have added other coin addresses:
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT
500 BC send. Good Luck with the project Iconic.
BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street
This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.
I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!
So what is the big idea?
We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.
Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.
1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.
2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.
3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.
4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.
What will the main event accomplish?
This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.
a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!
b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.
c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.
What is needed to make this a success?
Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc
Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.
Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.
Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!
This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.
To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.
Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.
Donation addresses:
BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT
We have raised approximately $2731
We have at least $6809 more to go.
Here is an article written a few hours after announcing the event! http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive
People!!! Would you try to actually read this? Same stupid comments and questions about something crypto-world have never seen before.
As always, idiots are trying to bash good ideas without actually reading it.
If you cannot do something yourself instead of just bashing other people's ideas, donate!
If you don't have anything to donate or cannot produce and implement ideas, just shut the hell up!
I think there is some misconception about the goal of Iconic's event... it is a marketing event and new user campaign. It is not aimed at Wall St investors. His goal is to create an event that will make mainstream/web media and associate Blackcoin with THE NAME 'Wall St'. The goal is not to send girls to Wall St suits and hope they invest millions... 
Yeah, the idea sounds fucking stupid if you look at it that way.
I could be wrong about this as I'm not from New York, but isn't Wall St a really touristy area, especially in May?
The event could take place in Times Square, but the following media would not make the powerful association with Wall St. To the average person, 'Wall St' signifies wealth and power. If the event is successful and mainstream media picks it up, that is an excellent association to make for the people that it will reach.
Yeah, the idea sounds fucking stupid if you look at it that way.I could be wrong about this as I'm not from New York, but isn't Wall St a really touristy area, especially in May?
The event could take place in Times Square, but the following media would not make the powerful association with Wall St. To the average person, 'Wall St' signifies wealth and power. If the event is successful and mainstream media picks it up, that is an excellent association to make for the people that it will reach.
Quote from: IconicExpert
a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!
Oh okay. I'll let the community figure it out.
@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.
My website is www.judgeneil.com. I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...
I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!
Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.
Look... my website may have one too many adds... I have to fix that. But to suggest that I am him or he controls my site in the face of overwhelming evidence is insane. Just admit you are wrong in that my post is from him and we can argue about something else ;p
And bow all these heads working together is incredibly bullish for black.
Keep it up
@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.
My website is www.judgeneil.com. I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...
I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!
Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.
Look... my website may have one too many adds... I have to fix that. But to suggest that I am him or he controls my site in the face of overwhelming evidence is insane. Just admit you are wrong in that my post is from him and we can argue about something else ;p
Warning regarding Iconic's misguided "Wall Street" plan:
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.
JL
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.
JL
There's some truth ...
Now that is something I will donate towards
Why not get both of them up and running? Diversify our endeavors!
Jesse you make some excellent points and I really hope the dev team considers them. I'd be in the camp of trying both activities.
to attract them comercial/events are essential are very crucial.
There is many coins around all are focused at "tech" path of coin and security
while PR and advertising is very Important.
Event is for creating media buzz about Blackcoin you wont attack them because we
will focus only on "tech" aspects of projects.
Why in real life commercials are so important ?
How many genius product were forgotten because of fucked up marketing or because there wasn't any marketing at all.
When we make media buzz we attract attention, that means possibility of getting new investors
and getting new devs on bord to because we will be able to back up bigger projects like that.
Nevver udermatinates PR and marketing now when we have 250+ coins on market this is CRUSIAL
don't even try thinking that is not important...Becouse you will land like Annoncoin, Memorycoin or Heavycoin
They made something new but who cares...
Ironic actions are important but important will be allso development part too.
Eg your BC is wirth now 0.1 after Ironic campagain is worth 0.4....
Now from your BC stash you can donate 25% on development and you are still on + with intrest.
Don't try fool otheres that agresive PR is not so important becouse we are on maret where is 250+ coins...
You don't understand why good PR and marketing is crucial try watch eg. Jobs movie.
Marketing is key connected with good development.
@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.
My website is www.judgeneil.com. I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...
I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!
Wow. I am honored to be part of your spammy website. Take it easy bro. I can see multiple accounts shilling by the same IconicExpert.
I gotta agree, I think Iconic should go forward with his plan. Continue raising funds - people who want to pursue it will donate. Say worst case scenario, even if it's a blip on the radar, in marketing campaigns, we need lots of these little blips to get the word out so I don't think it would be a wasted effort no matter what. Obviously we should all keep discussing to make it the best we can with all of our collective heads put together, but I am just saying at its worst, it's better than not doing anything. Remember in marketing, the Rule of 7, where something needs to be repeated to your target market 7 times before they take action.
I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.
I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.
I totally agree with you Alison03. Jesse had some great ideas too and sounds like he has some experience in that arena. He should run with his ideas! I would support those too!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I gotta agree, I think Iconic should go forward with his plan. Continue raising funds - people who want to pursue it will donate. Say worst case scenario, even if it's a blip on the radar, in marketing campaigns, we need lots of these little blips to get the word out so I don't think it would be a wasted effort no matter what. Obviously we should all keep discussing to make it the best we can with all of our collective heads put together, but I am just saying at its worst, it's better than not doing anything. Remember in marketing, the Rule of 7, where something needs to be repeated to your target market 7 times before they take action.
I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.
I think the MIT/Bitcoin idea is just genius though too, and also think Jesse's ideas are something we also need to run with, if it's something that can be done either alongside Iconic's plan or after or whatever. It just makes our circle of people reached even wider.
@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.
My website is www.judgeneil.com. I have an internet Psychic Show... To PROVE it I posted a pic of your post on MY WEBSITE!
By the way my show is on iTunes internet radio and Microsoft Media Guide...
I am a big believer in IconicExpert!!!!!
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@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Coming from a newbie account. It's Iconic lol.
@Everyone RE: IconicExpert's Wallstreet Idea
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I think we should all back off and let him run with this his way. He came up with the idea and honestly it sounds great. In the whole scheme of things it is really a cheap campaign. If other people have ideas, let them organize them and collect donations based on how much people think it will return for them. Multiple marketing paths would be a great idea...
Personally IconicExpert has been on the money so far!
Instead of always betting on Black, Always bet on Iconic!
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
Quick follow-up ideas...
I've gotten a handful of PM's asking me how would you even go about creating an ETF-type product like what Secondmarkets want to do with BitCoin? While creating these products is not really my side of the investment business (I'm on the investors' side rather than the product-creation side if that makes sense), this fact sheet from Secondmarkets (http://www.bitcointrust.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fact-Sheet_April.pdf) shows some basic entities you would need, such as:
-Sponsoring company (which may very well be completely independent of the developers)
-Independent Auditor
-Legal Counsel to the Sponsor (and I have actually heard that this one Secondmarkets has here, Sidley Austin LLP, is pretty damn good at currency and commodity-linked indexes, which is likely what form of ETF any potential Blackcoin ETF would take)
-Stock Transfer Agent
-Delaware Statutory Trustee
-Someone to act as a primary distributor
And I'm sure there are more entities involved.
Anyhow, I don't entirely think Iconic's idea is bad I just think it's mis-placed and will be all for naught with what will be ordinary touristy people who happen to be visiting Wall Street.
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/) ...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
I've gotten a handful of PM's asking me how would you even go about creating an ETF-type product like what Secondmarkets want to do with BitCoin? While creating these products is not really my side of the investment business (I'm on the investors' side rather than the product-creation side if that makes sense), this fact sheet from Secondmarkets (http://www.bitcointrust.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fact-Sheet_April.pdf) shows some basic entities you would need, such as:
-Sponsoring company (which may very well be completely independent of the developers)
-Independent Auditor
-Legal Counsel to the Sponsor (and I have actually heard that this one Secondmarkets has here, Sidley Austin LLP, is pretty damn good at currency and commodity-linked indexes, which is likely what form of ETF any potential Blackcoin ETF would take)
-Stock Transfer Agent
-Delaware Statutory Trustee
-Someone to act as a primary distributor
And I'm sure there are more entities involved.
Anyhow, I don't entirely think Iconic's idea is bad I just think it's mis-placed and will be all for naught with what will be ordinary touristy people who happen to be visiting Wall Street.
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/) ...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
+1. I'd listen to Jesse Livermore rather than Iconic.
BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street
This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.
I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!
So what is the big idea?
We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.
Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.
1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.
2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.
3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.
4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished, everything is in place for the main event.
What will the main event accomplish?
This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.
a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!
b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.
c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.
What is needed to make this a success?
Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc
Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.
Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.
Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!
This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.
To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.
Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.
Donation addresses:
BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT
We have raised approximately $2731
We have at least $6809 more to go.
Here is an article written a few hours after announcing the event! http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive
Iconic-I have been a huge follower and supporter of yours for a while now but I want to raise some concerns incase noone else does
-What will the girls be wearing? I do not need to elaborate any further...
-Are you going to educate them, or just pay them to prance around wall street looking pretty? Here is how the convos will go:
Girl-hey, hows it going!? Have you heard about blackcoin? *bright smile* *pretty girl* (instantly grabs dude's attention, and we all know they're the ones with the money)
Potential investor- No, I have not heard of it, would you care to enlighten me? *wink and nod* *charismatic smile* (dude's just trying to fuck)
Girl- "Well, uh, it's a cryptocurrency, like bitcoin or whatever. They said it was the first proof of like, steak, or pork or something...they told me to tell everyone it was better than litecoin or whatever, and gave me these cool looking cards to hand out"
Potential investor- "Great, I'll take one, if I can have your number too =P"
Girl-"uhhhhhhh"
Are the women going to actually be used for anything other than a tool to pass the cards out? I don't mean to be sexist or whatever but a small brochure can effectively communicate more information than a woman could in 2 hours, why the heck would we use women for something like this? I understand they will attract men, who are the ones with the money, but the men will mostly be trying to hit on them/fuck them or whatever. Think about it, when you see those fine ass girls that reb bull hires to drive around in those stupid mini coopers and hand out free redbull, they get hit on every time, noone cares about the redbull they all just want to hit on the girls.
What are you doing to prevent this foolishness?
Also, 2 hours? weak...
I say make em' work, make em' sweat. 8 hours, and that's being nice =P
Think about how many cards 50 good looking women could hand out on wall street in 8 hours. 50,000-75,000?
In my line of work i have worked with ALOT of PR girls. The girls do not need to be experts about cryptocurrencies, they just need to know the basics and have sheets of info with them so people can look up more details if they wish. It's a marketing campaign - not a cryptocurrency educational campaign. the whole idea is to attract customers, not to make a lecture about cryptocurrencies. i agree that they should have some idea what they are handing out, but not many PR girls actually know anything about what they are promoting. as an example: PR girls don't have a clue about the car they are promoting or how it works, they don't have a clue about the credit cards they are promoting (or how money works for that matter), they don't even have a clue about the condoms they are promoting if you ask them.
Now, the basics of BC are easy to understand and nobody needs to go into full expert details with customers about that. instead the customers can go look up more info on the sheets and internet themselves once they get interested in the product. That's how PR work usually works. I think it's a good idea to have a few technically savy dressed-in-black crypto-experts on the spot too, if somebody really wants to know more info right on the spot. I think many have already volunteered for that.
To insure we get the best possible marketing girls awailable, we could simply make an online IQ test for the PR girls: the ones that pass the IQ test - don't get the job
Warning regarding Iconic's misguided "Wall Street" plan:
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.
JL
The investment industry sees this type of thing he's planning (ie- hiring pretty, but likely clueless, women who really don't know what the hell they're peddling) as very gimmicky and very juvenile.
The investment industry in reality these days is not "Wolf of Wall Street" and is boring and cares only about two things: returns and playing by the SEC's rules. Investment professionals do due diligence using these simple 1-pagers (http://www.harborfunds.com/docs/international_fund_fact_sheet.pdf and this thing called a prospectus http://hosted.rightprospectus.com/HarborFunds/Fund.aspx?dt=SP&ts=HIINX.
SecondMarket realizes this and will have their public Bitcoin ETF up and running later this year after convincing investors and the SEC that Bitcoin not some gigantic, scammy, ponzi-scheme.
Secondmarket knows that the best way to legitimize Bitcoin for the general investment world is to get the regulators to okay it first and then market it as a returns-achieving security that is safe to hold in a high-risk portfolio.
With Iconic's plan you'll likely get another pump, followed by another dump, and overall nothing will have been achieved.
A better plan would be to send those donated BC's to the Blackcoin development team, with the intention of them starting Blackcoin on the path of ETF-creation or a BlackCoinPool Mining Investment Fund. This would be a huge endeavor and would require many expensive securities lawyers and potentially years of work and patience, however it would help the coin in the long-term versus Iconic's plan.
Hell, I would bet every Blackcoin I own that if the Blackcoin Developers made a simple news release that they were going to hire a securities law-firm to help them start on this long process of legitimizing Blackcoin for the investment industry, the price of Blackcoin would spike up higher than this plan of Iconic's, and, unlike Iconic's plan, the price would stay up because it is so unique and ballsy and would add ridiculous value to Blackcoin in the long-term.
Just my 2-cents.
Source: I work in the investment industry and read thousands of prospectuses, fact sheets, 10Q's, 10K's and annual reports, and I need to file a 13h and 13f.
JL
+1
I honestly think that I like the passion, determination that iconic brings to his projects. I do however believe that ideas have to be well thought through before asking for donations from the community. There has been way to much over promising in the past and some community members have felt misguided. I believe Iconic should be talking to the developer team and community about his ideas and get a feel for them from the community before we send donations out. We have to be more targeted and be wise on how we spend our BC.
The points that have been brought forward in this post have allot of valid points. Guys in wall street walking to work or lunch can care less about a crypto promotion. Not even bitcoin has made it in full yet. If to legitimize Blackcoin for the investment industry is our route we need to be serious about this project and funds should be routed through the dev team for proper implementation. Iconic should continue to bring Ideas in to the community but this type of gimmick that can potential cost in excess of $10,000 USd for a few hours can buy us way more in massive PR. Let's Stop the madness with asking for Donations without the approval from the Development team or Community Manager, it makes us look desperate and brings confusion
Yeah that'd be a better direction to head... cryptos still for geeks right now, and esp altcoins, we need more converts from the cyber geeks before we convert mainstream, tbh.. It's like the only people who know about it now are people on this forum.. still a huge market of tech geeks out there who don't even know what POS is.
Anyhow, I don't entirely think Iconic's idea is bad I just think it's mis-placed and will be all for naught with what will be ordinary touristy people who happen to be visiting Wall Street.
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/)...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/)...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
Quick follow-up ideas...
I've gotten a handful of PM's asking me how would you even go about creating an ETF-type product like what Secondmarkets want to do with BitCoin? While creating these products is not really my side of the investment business (I'm on the investors' side rather than the product-creation side if that makes sense), this fact sheet from Secondmarkets (http://www.bitcointrust.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fact-Sheet_April.pdf) shows some basic entities you would need, such as:
-Sponsoring company (which may very well be completely independent of the developers)
-Independent Auditor
-Legal Counsel to the Sponsor (and I have actually heard that this one Secondmarkets has here, Sidley Austin LLP, is pretty damn good at currency and commodity-linked indexes, which is likely what form of ETF any potential Blackcoin ETF would take)
-Stock Transfer Agent
-Delaware Statutory Trustee
-Someone to act as a primary distributor
And I'm sure there are more entities involved.
Anyhow, I don't entirely think Iconic's idea is bad I just think it's mis-placed and will be all for naught with what will be ordinary touristy people who happen to be visiting Wall Street.
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/) ...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
I've gotten a handful of PM's asking me how would you even go about creating an ETF-type product like what Secondmarkets want to do with BitCoin? While creating these products is not really my side of the investment business (I'm on the investors' side rather than the product-creation side if that makes sense), this fact sheet from Secondmarkets (http://www.bitcointrust.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fact-Sheet_April.pdf) shows some basic entities you would need, such as:
-Sponsoring company (which may very well be completely independent of the developers)
-Independent Auditor
-Legal Counsel to the Sponsor (and I have actually heard that this one Secondmarkets has here, Sidley Austin LLP, is pretty damn good at currency and commodity-linked indexes, which is likely what form of ETF any potential Blackcoin ETF would take)
-Stock Transfer Agent
-Delaware Statutory Trustee
-Someone to act as a primary distributor
And I'm sure there are more entities involved.
Anyhow, I don't entirely think Iconic's idea is bad I just think it's mis-placed and will be all for naught with what will be ordinary touristy people who happen to be visiting Wall Street.
Now, I saw this genius MIT plan with Bitcoin today (http://bitcoin.mit.edu/announcing-the-mit-bitcoin-project/) ...now THAT is a place (ie a large, well-known college campus) where Iconic's plan would be marvelous. I think this MIT/BTC plan is the perfect target for this kind of plan because for the most part they're a very tech-savvy target and they're young and the target is likely tech-savvy guys and what college guy wouldn't take a Blackcoin Card from a pretty face?
But furthermore, what college students use cash? None. Nearly all use credit cards these days already pre-loaded with fundage from mom and dad. I'd speculate that these MIT students mainly use this BTC to payback each other for various things (cable bill, utility bill, payback for the 6 beers last night, etc) and I'm going to guess that the ending result from this large experiment will be that BTC's slow transaction times will keep students from using it to pay for other things (books, groceries, etc).
Now enter Blackcoin though, I could see an experiment like this with Blackcoin having hugely massive success due in part to ridiculously fast transaction times.
What if Blackcoin completely emulated this experiment and gave out pre-loaded cards to students at like Stanford or some other highly visible but tech-savvy university in the same fashion Iconic is calling for? Or perhaps we balls-up and do it at MIT? Compete with BTC at the transaction-level in a highly-visible competition of sorts.
JL
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