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Topic: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - page 71. (Read 204975 times)

hero member
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November 26, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
Requires you use IRC to manage your account and give ratings, for one.

Well yeah, but how's that to do with it being robust? Or updateable?

Try webirc.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
November 26, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
or rely on something like the OTC system, which isn't very robust of updateable.

What do you mean?

Requires you use IRC to manage your account and give ratings, for one.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
November 26, 2012, 06:02:23 PM
or rely on something like the OTC system, which isn't very robust of updateable.

What do you mean?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
November 26, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
Yeah I've seen people with several active loans, a low rating, & no proof of ID or address listed being handed funds. This is just not prudent. I've only made a couple small loans but, I asked questions until I was satisfied. Every payment has been on time or early. Just watch out for landmines and don't loan the grocery money or you may starve. This is a great idea and a boon for crypto currency, let's don't let a few bad apples ruin it.
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 26, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
Hi, I have been scammed on the first loan (3 Btc). Someone mentioned a possible partial refund?
I even mentioned btcjam in my blog http://bitcoin-italia.blogspot.it/2012/11/pianeta-crowdfunding-e-bitcoin.html and magazine http://www.isiciliani.it/crowdfunding-e-bitcoin-oggi-sposi/#.ULNm0YfK7aY
Thanks

10 days ago Tulkas said that they work on a solution and they've tell something in approx 2 weeks (so by the end of this week). I really hope in solution because I've more then 30BTC of loans not repayed  Angry

Maybe the model just doesn't work.

First the numbers:

loans: 218
total payments: 920
payments late: 207
fully repaid loans: 97

We have a repayment rate of 77.5%

Although the numbers are not perfect they are compatible with peer to peer lending sites at their infancies. We are aiming at 98% repayment rate, and we are getting there since the numbers match.

As this is a rather libertarian community we didn't wanted at first to moderate the listings. We are now revisiting that concept since it appears the lenders want that feature along with the peer to peer reputation system and the verification process.

All around the world the peer to peer lending services, just like ours, with community based reputation systems are going very well and we are proud to bring that service alive purely with bitcoin.

   
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 26, 2012, 04:47:02 PM
Hi, I have been scammed on the first loan (3 Btc). Someone mentioned a possible partial refund?
I even mentioned btcjam in my blog http://bitcoin-italia.blogspot.it/2012/11/pianeta-crowdfunding-e-bitcoin.html and magazine http://www.isiciliani.it/crowdfunding-e-bitcoin-oggi-sposi/#.ULNm0YfK7aY
Thanks

10 days ago Tulkas said that they work on a solution and they've tell something in approx 2 weeks (so by the end of this week). I really hope in solution because I've more then 30BTC of loans not repayed  Angry

We are moving towards US company incorporation, its taking a little longer than expected but we are handling this with maximum urgency.

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
November 26, 2012, 02:53:38 PM
I feel the reputation component is really missing from this. We either have to rely on trusting BTCJam that they actually have the personal credit score they say they do, and rely on them to pursue defaulters and their credit reputation for us, or rely on something like the OTC system, which isn't very robust of updateable. I think BTCJam is digging themselves into a corner with trying to stay so legal,  protecting themselves against lawsuits from the borrowers whose privacy they have to protect, at the expense of the lenders who are getting ripped off.
Is there a market for a third party, more reliable, and easier to use reputation tracking system?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
November 26, 2012, 12:13:27 PM
Hi, I have been scammed on the first loan (3 Btc). Someone mentioned a possible partial refund?
I even mentioned btcjam in my blog http://bitcoin-italia.blogspot.it/2012/11/pianeta-crowdfunding-e-bitcoin.html and magazine http://www.isiciliani.it/crowdfunding-e-bitcoin-oggi-sposi/#.ULNm0YfK7aY
Thanks

10 days ago Tulkas said that they work on a solution and they've tell something in approx 2 weeks (so by the end of this week). I really hope in solution because I've more then 30BTC of loans not repayed  Angry

Maybe the model just doesn't work.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
November 26, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Hi, I have been scammed on the first loan (3 Btc). Someone mentioned a possible partial refund?
I even mentioned btcjam in my blog http://bitcoin-italia.blogspot.it/2012/11/pianeta-crowdfunding-e-bitcoin.html and magazine http://www.isiciliani.it/crowdfunding-e-bitcoin-oggi-sposi/#.ULNm0YfK7aY
Thanks

10 days ago Tulkas said that they work on a solution and they've tell something in approx 2 weeks (so by the end of this week). I really hope in solution because I've more then 30BTC of loans not repayed  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 435
Merit: 260
November 26, 2012, 07:56:35 AM
Hi, I have been scammed on the first loan (3 Btc). Someone mentioned a possible partial refund?
I even mentioned btcjam in my blog http://bitcoin-italia.blogspot.it/2012/11/pianeta-crowdfunding-e-bitcoin.html and magazine http://www.isiciliani.it/crowdfunding-e-bitcoin-oggi-sposi/#.ULNm0YfK7aY
Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 23, 2012, 08:22:22 PM
thanks for 0% loan feature

i am providing interesting free loans , already gave first interest free loan on btcjam  Cheesy

great its working out for you!

thanks! Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 272
Merit: 250
November 22, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
It is fine for now, thanks.

Just wanted to make sure that someone couldn't continually extend the duration. With such a large amount it is understandable it may take longer to fund Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 22, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Just wondering how many times a person can extend their listing?

This listing was supposed to end in a couple of days, but it has been extended by another week by the looks of it:
https://btcjam.com/listings/584

I have no problem with extending it to get a bit more funding, but I don't want my money stuck in limbo for long periods with no way to get my investment back.

This was a one time isolated fact, will not happen again. If you want to withdraw your investment please send me a PM.
sr. member
Activity: 272
Merit: 250
November 22, 2012, 03:48:17 AM
Just wondering how many times a person can extend their listing?

This listing was supposed to end in a couple of days, but it has been extended by another week by the looks of it:
https://btcjam.com/listings/584

I have no problem with extending it to get a bit more funding, but I don't want my money stuck in limbo for long periods with no way to get my investment back.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
November 14, 2012, 02:23:33 PM
New feature on-line!

Tip support for zero interest loans.

Now borrowers can TIP/add any amount of BTC when paying a zero interest loan.


Nice feature
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 14, 2012, 01:51:36 PM
New feature on-line!

Tip support for zero interest loans.

Now borrowers can TIP/add any amount of BTC when paying a zero interest loan.
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 14, 2012, 01:49:50 PM
There is any news on a system to obtain back some of the money from the scammer, or at least have a part of their debt repayed?


We will have news soon (in two weeks aprox).  Sorry, can't tell you more right now.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
November 12, 2012, 05:41:14 AM
There is any news on a system to obtain back some of the money from the scammer, or at least have a part of their debt repayed?
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Founder, BTCJAM
November 09, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
I have my OTC linked, but my OTC rating has increased and I would like btcjam to reflect that.

can you make it refresh the score periodically?

(I also tried to resubmit the OTC/gpg key, but it does not allow that)

It's supposed to update daily, will verify if something happened with yours.
full member
Activity: 367
Merit: 100
November 09, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
I have my OTC linked, but my OTC rating has increased and I would like btcjam to reflect that.

can you make it refresh the score periodically?

(I also tried to resubmit the OTC/gpg key, but it does not allow that)
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