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Quote from: rocoro on April 09, 2015, 11:08:28 PM

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash? I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale. Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions. Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table. However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules? Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals. For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country? Fuck no. Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country? Yes.

I absolutely understand. The problem is that no matter what object is being used as collateral/payment of any kind will ever be able to be controlled to not allow "illegal activities".

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Quote from: MyFarm on April 09, 2015, 11:04:16 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 11:13:16 PM

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash? I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale. Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions. Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table. However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules? Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals. For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country? Fuck no. Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country? Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things". It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people, people shoot people.
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument. Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin. If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin. I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system. More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.

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Quote from: sologap on April 09, 2015, 10:58:30 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:45:29 PM

With the port requirement removed, you can run as many adrenaline nodes as you want on one machine by giving each instance its own datadir and port. I know that was a feature a few of you really wanted bad, so I could push it now if you want or you can wait until I have the other UI stuff done. Let me know how bad you need it.

well, we need it very bad,, also can you make the wallet reads from one datadir without lock, and make wallet.dat have more than node key/address.

Having multiple daemon instances using the same datadir is practically impossible without re-architecting a ton of the core code Wink

Having wallet.dat support more than one node is what I'm working on for the cold wallet side. The hot wallet, or actual running adrenaline node, has to be a unique instance. What I'm working on is storing the masternode configuration in the wallet database, and allowing the user to configure as many as they like and manually plug in the CRAVE address that has the collateral for each one. I'm trying to make it so you don't have to mess with config files, you just open the cold wallet go to the tab put in the information for your remote nodes, click a button to copy the needed .conf section for the VPS, click a button to activate and you're done. Make it as seamless as possible.

yes i understand, your idea is very great dev, keep up the good work !! thanks

Hey I pushed the update to github. It will at least let you run multiple instances on one machine with multiple ports. You'll still have to do your wallet trick on the cold wallet side for now.

please dev can you make official mac wallet i cannot handle my fund any other way thank you

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Quote from: sologap on April 09, 2015, 10:58:30 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:45:29 PM

With the port requirement removed, you can run as many adrenaline nodes as you want on one machine by giving each instance its own datadir and port. I know that was a feature a few of you really wanted bad, so I could push it now if you want or you can wait until I have the other UI stuff done. Let me know how bad you need it.

well, we need it very bad,, also can you make the wallet reads from one datadir without lock, and make wallet.dat have more than node key/address.

Having multiple daemon instances using the same datadir is practically impossible without re-architecting a ton of the core code Wink

Having wallet.dat support more than one node is what I'm working on for the cold wallet side. The hot wallet, or actual running adrenaline node, has to be a unique instance. What I'm working on is storing the masternode configuration in the wallet database, and allowing the user to configure as many as they like and manually plug in the CRAVE address that has the collateral for each one. I'm trying to make it so you don't have to mess with config files, you just open the cold wallet go to the tab put in the information for your remote nodes, click a button to copy the needed .conf section for the VPS, click a button to activate and you're done. Make it as seamless as possible.

yes i understand, your idea is very great dev, keep up the good work !! thanks

Hey I pushed the update to github. It will at least let you run multiple instances on one machine with multiple ports. You'll still have to do your wallet trick on the cold wallet side for now.

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Quote from: sologap on April 09, 2015, 11:00:22 PM

Quote from: MickGhee on April 09, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

Quote from: Troublesome96 on April 09, 2015, 10:25:17 PM

Quote from: coinspredator on April 09, 2015, 09:22:44 PM

Quote from: Yaremi on April 09, 2015, 09:07:07 PM

Quote from: kpierce77 on April 09, 2015, 09:05:01 PM

Anybody running a masternode on Linux? Specifically on a raspberry pi?

http://www.cravecoin.info/master-node-guide/

The guide is really good, but we need a more professional website. Someone here with the ability for to make it ? I have a friend that could make a pretty good one, but it will cost money.

I will try PM the dev and talk about it. It's time to build a strong community here. Infrastructure is important. Cool

Sologap was on it and it was looking good and professional.

If sologap pulls out then there are plenty of cheap easy bootstraps for website that are also work on mobile. They usually run $10-$20.
Then the hosting. They are literally plug and play setups and look great. It is what all the coins do for the most part. Very cheap and very easy for anyone with any website experience.

i have the website package waiting for my host to enable sql so i can upload it should be up by tomorrow thanks

bitch cry bitch cry we all know th real objective is to get cheap coins

we wont fall for your bs
toodles

no need for sql for the website i sent you. please forward to dev so he can push to github.

I did not notice any database functionality either when I was poking around on your test server a couple of days ago. It was open so I could look at all the directories and looked pretty straightforward. I was hunting full size png's Wink

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Quote from: MyFarm on April 09, 2015, 11:04:16 PM

Quote from: MickGhee on April 09, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash? I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale. Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions. Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table. However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules? Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals. For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country? Fuck no. Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country? Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things". It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people, people shoot people.
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

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Quote from: Troublesome96 on April 09, 2015, 10:25:17 PM

Quote from: coinspredator on April 09, 2015, 09:22:44 PM

Quote from: Yaremi on April 09, 2015, 09:07:07 PM

Quote from: kpierce77 on April 09, 2015, 09:05:01 PM

Anybody running a masternode on Linux? Specifically on a raspberry pi?

http://www.cravecoin.info/master-node-guide/

The guide is really good, but we need a more professional website. Someone here with the ability for to make it ? I have a friend that could make a pretty good one, but it will cost money.

I will try PM the dev and talk about it. It's time to build a strong community here. Infrastructure is important. Cool

Sologap was on it and it was looking good and professional.

If sologap pulls out then there are plenty of cheap easy bootstraps for website that are also work on mobile. They usually run $10-$20.
Then the hosting. They are literally plug and play setups and look great. It is what all the coins do for the most part. Very cheap and very easy for anyone with any website experience.

i have the website package waiting for my host to enable sql so i can upload it should be up by tomorrow thanks

bitch cry bitch cry we all know th real objective is to get cheap coins

we wont fall for your bs
toodles

Good to hear Mick

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Quote from: Kimowa on April 09, 2015, 10:57:15 PM

who wants me totaketo 1000k tonight Cool

everyone.

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Forget-about-it

Quote from: coinspredator on April 09, 2015, 11:04:42 PM

Quote from: sologap on April 09, 2015, 10:36:03 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:32:55 PM

Putting the Adrenaline Surge features in now. Removed the 9999 port requirement.

i fucking love you dev!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys just imagine the crave price when people start to burn coins to blur, just picked up a little more. Cheesy

they should burn already, less bonus longer they wait.
30 days only then no more can be burned!

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Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:45:29 PM

With the port requirement removed, you can run as many adrenaline nodes as you want on one machine by giving each instance its own datadir and port. I know that was a feature a few of you really wanted bad, so I could push it now if you want or you can wait until I have the other UI stuff done. Let me know how bad you need it.

well, we need it very bad,, also can you make the wallet reads from one datadir without lock, and make wallet.dat have more than node key/address.

Having multiple daemon instances using the same datadir is practically impossible without re-architecting a ton of the core code Wink

Having wallet.dat support more than one node is what I'm working on for the cold wallet side. The hot wallet, or actual running adrenaline node, has to be a unique instance. What I'm working on is storing the masternode configuration in the wallet database, and allowing the user to configure as many as they like and manually plug in the CRAVE address that has the collateral for each one. I'm trying to make it so you don't have to mess with config files, you just open the cold wallet go to the tab put in the information for your remote nodes, click a button to copy the needed .conf section for the VPS, click a button to activate and you're done. Make it as seamless as possible.

Amazing work and direction icm.

Yaremi

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159 Masternodes active /// Total Balance: 80658.31031718

More and more.

very good signal

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Quote from: sologap on April 09, 2015, 10:36:03 PM

Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:32:55 PM

Putting the Adrenaline Surge features in now. Removed the 9999 port requirement.

i fucking love you dev!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys just imagine the crave price when people start to burn coins to blur, just picked up a little more. Cheesy

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Quote from: kpierce77 on April 09, 2015, 11:02:45 PM

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash? I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale. Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions. Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table. However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules? Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals. For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country? Fuck no. Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country? Yes.

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Can someone please tell me how long it should be before I start getting payouts with my masternode? It's been running for about 4 hours and nothing yet. Masternode started and showing on https://crave.ninja/

Am I just being impatient?

you are impatient Grin

just forget about it and look later.

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Can someone please tell me how long it should be before I start getting payouts with my masternode? It's been running for about 4 hours and nothing yet. Masternode started and showing on https://crave.ninja/

Am I just being impatient?

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Quote from: Gladimor on April 09, 2015, 10:45:49 PM

The thing that is special about this coin is that updates are delivered in a matter of days, rather than weeks and months.

Yes. But it seems to be in a matter of hours and not even days currently.

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Quote from: MickGhee on April 09, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash? I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale. Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions. Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table. However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules? Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

sologap

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Quote from: Troublesome96 on April 09, 2015, 10:25:17 PM

Quote from: coinspredator on April 09, 2015, 09:22:44 PM

Quote from: Yaremi on April 09, 2015, 09:07:07 PM

Quote from: kpierce77 on April 09, 2015, 09:05:01 PM

Anybody running a masternode on Linux? Specifically on a raspberry pi?

http://www.cravecoin.info/master-node-guide/

The guide is really good, but we need a more professional website. Someone here with the ability for to make it ? I have a friend that could make a pretty good one, but it will cost money.

I will try PM the dev and talk about it. It's time to build a strong community here. Infrastructure is important. Cool

Sologap was on it and it was looking good and professional.

If sologap pulls out then there are plenty of cheap easy bootstraps for website that are also work on mobile. They usually run $10-$20.
Then the hosting. They are literally plug and play setups and look great. It is what all the coins do for the most part. Very cheap and very easy for anyone with any website experience.

i have the website package waiting for my host to enable sql so i can upload it should be up by tomorrow thanks

bitch cry bitch cry we all know th real objective is to get cheap coins

we wont fall for your bs
toodles

no need for sql for the website i sent you. please forward to dev so he can push to github.

MyFarm

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Quote from: industrialcoinmagic on April 09, 2015, 10:56:02 PM