Topic: [ANN] doge.scryptpools.com - DOWN UNTIL PENDING PAYOUTS ARE PROCESSED - page 9. (Read 148055 times)

also just FYI, he ditched the scryptspool domain. old URL now redirects to http://capsatschool.com/

There is a very good reason for that.  While some were quick to shout "scam!", some thought that maybe you were having a legitimate problem and we should wait and see.  I was one of the latter. 

As the days went by without any word for you, it looked more and more likely that you took the money and ran.  I followed the money through the blockchain because nobody else was doing it.  The transactions looked suspicious to me, but I'm not an expert.  I brought what I found to a few people, including a reputable pool operator, who confirmed that it did not look right. 

If you expect anybody here to believe what you are saying now, you'll need to do the following for a start:

1.) Explain why nearly all of the Doge mined after payouts stops appears to have been sold off
2.) Explain why you were able to to move / sell the mined Doge for the last two weeks but not post here
3.) Provide a full list of the dogecoin addresses used by the pool and an explanation of the purpose of each
4.) Provide links to the accidental double payments on http://dogechain.info
5.) Provide us with access to a repository containing the pool's server log files for at least the last three weeks

You cannot expect anybody to believe that you are not a scammer if you won't tell us your side of the story.

Evidence that money was being funneled out clearly indicates you're a lying asshole. noone in their right mind would ever, ever join a pool you had a hand in controlling ever again.not to mention noone should trust this "friend" of his either. the only way to start making this right, since clearly phonetic is reading this, is to start liquidating his assets to pay off all the miners which means selling his servers, etc. in the event that can't happen, he needs to understand that he can still be held accountable on a legal basis. under US constitution what he did is wire fraud and that's a hefty fine and 30 years in prison..hope you have what it takes to do the right thing!

Agreed, I'm willing to forgive and forget if the obvious questions are answered. Let's start with this 'Where are all of the dogecoins that were mined between the time that the pool stopped paying out?'

If there is someone with some credibility that is helping you, it would go a long way in helping us trust you if that person came forward as well.

so is the 3 billion dogecoin wallet from phonetic? or was it all fud and its some sort of investor?

from what he is saying he is broke? how is that possible??

wtf is going on??

Man I trusted you by putting 15 MH power on your pool , in exchange , my doges are lost for now , so I don't understand why are you trying to get pity of us ..

If you are right in your life , you should find a way to buy or gives your doges to the community , we have past energy power and we pay for it , and know you are telling us it's a little issue ?

Be honest , payouts issues are easy to solve , but always had troubles to get our coins out from your pool , even automatics payouts had issues all the time , it's too much issues on payements to be a real technical issue

Don't tell us that you have nothing from this pool , actually you should have a good amount of doges in your wallet...

Know we are waiting from your news about the solution to our situation ...

Regards

Im not saying you were a scammer to start with. You started to be a scammer when you went off grid. Knowing that your pool were F**ked. and nobody were getting payed.
"Knowing that clients wont be payed, and not telling"
If thats not a scam, what is it?

1. Make everybody believe everything will be fixed asap.
2. Disapear, leaving all the miners to mine for your failed pool with no info.
3. come back and say that "everything is gone. even that wich were mined in the weeks after the original reason-explained"

And why did you ever pay doge's yourself?
Im pretty sure most other pools solves these things by either giving the people who got payed double minus dogecredits, so they have to mine back their already gotten coins befor getting new. Or by donations.
Im pretty sure if you had asked we would all tip in a bit to get it on the wheels again.

There is too much holes in your story..
If the double payments were the only issue. where is all the doge's mined after that? your site went offline  a few days back. until that people still had faith that you would have said something to us if anything were wrong...

I think you may need to give a bit more information than that, otherwise you'll find that nobody will even mine for the pool to begin with, so no doge will be generated to pay these owed coins.
Of the double payouts, you should have just debited their account the amount of doge they were paid twice, like another pool I read about did. That way they can choose to dig themselves out of the hole. Alternatively, notify them in a PM or via email that you're docking their payout until it's paid off. It's only fair, as technically at this point, because of a bug in the code (that I'll note you didn't create) they have taken coins that are not theirs. I'm willing to bet they're not the ones complaining.

Regardless, thanks for coming back to let us know what's happening, please just be open an honest about it moving forward.

I also appreciate that you're here but can you just answer some of the outstanding questions?

It'd really go a long way I believe as far as people not continuing to believe that they've been scammed.

I do appreciate the fact that you came back here, in spite of the angry mob.  Good job on that.

Also, I look forward to the correction of this situation.  Until then...!

Almost everyone here believes me to be a scammer.

Please believe me when I tell you all that I am truly sorry for the dogecoins that are owed to you.

Another pool operator has been very kind to me over these past few days and is helping me get through this. You have no idea how badly I feel about this situation. It is draining the life out of me every second of every day.

My words may mean nothing to most of you, but this is the truth.

It is not possible for me to purchase the amount of dogecoins that are owed to many of the miners of my pool. When I first realized this, I abandoned my ship. It was foolish for me to do this and the fact that I did that will make it much harder for anyone to believe a word out of my mouth. I don't blame you but please, read my thread from the beginning, and I hope you can see from the start I gave my pool everything I had.

The person I am working with has encouraged the idea of reopening my pool and has agreed to run it with me to make sure there are no issues with double payouts. Any owed balances will be paid using any and all fees that my pool collects. If / when the owed balances are settled in full, the person who is helping me will take full control of the pool. You will no longer have to deal with me. I'm not cut out for this, and I realize that. This was my first pool and will be my last pool. This is a terrible situation for all of my miners and I'm sorry that I couldn't fix the problems with my pool.

It's not easy coming to this forum and reading the things people are saying. I'm not a bad person. I've done right my whole life. I will do everything I can to right this ship and make things right.

He posted one message that explained very little.  He should start by explaining why the doge mined after payouts stopped appears to have been immediately sold off.  He should also explain why he was still transferring doge out of the pool wallet several times a day during the two weeks he didn't even log in here.

If double payments are really what got him into trouble, he should be able to post dogechain.info links to prove that claim.  Anything short of full disclosure at this point leads me to believe that he is just trying to buy time to cover his tracks.

I didn't join the pool until the 26th, but got two payments after that. One manual at 4.6k on the 26th and one auto (which was set to 10k) for 21.3k on the 28th.
So the pool was operating and paying out, at least to some extent, until at least 26th Dec 04:35 GMT when I got my last payment. Thus leading me to hope that he did actually pay out a lot of the doges mined after the double payment issue. But what made him, or at least the site, stop paying out after that?

Is there any way he could have f***ed things up with a different branch? (Asking, as I don't quite understand how that works)


As for taking down the pool, didn't he at one point say he had to buy doge for BTC to pay out after the double payment? If so I can see how he might have reasoned that the trouble was mostly over and he would use the income from the pool to pay out the difference between what had been mined and what the pool had available until it balanced out.


Lastly, are we sure that no miners from the pool got a payment after the 28th?

+1

This

But you are totally missing the picture here..
He has double payment issues around 24th..

so.. if he cant pay anybody.. Why didnt he:
1. Take his pool offline.
2. Inform on troubles on the site to make people leave for other pools (if he is not lying with his last info that 500 MHash made shit hit the fan)

Failing both of these DOES lead to scamming suspicion.. So your "baseless scammer namecalling" is the baseless statement..


If you have a failed service and are (mis)-handling value of some kind of a customer, and you know you cant pay the customer. you shut it down, until fixed.. or at least informs so the customer can choose to either continue to mine with the risk of not earning anything.. or move to a different pool to actually get paid. And to relieve the pool of its activity to help on the issues..

And then the last and most revealing hint that this is a scam..

I have said it many times. but here it goes again.

This pool had over 2.5GHash per second a long time..
ALOT of coins have been mined after his double payment issues.. Where is these doge's if he have to "get new coins" to pay us back?

IF THESE ARE GONE. its because _he_ removed them.. easy as that.

retrieval

kevinan and hoeczek, retrieval or identification bounty?

I know that its really small ammount but please add me to the bounty list
hoek - 2500

hi,  my nickname in poo, is kevinyan.

I will pay 20k for the bounty..

I have 90k of the dogecoin stuck in this pool...