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June 22, 2015, 08:29:15 AM
Why not just allow to send stake if after having 99% (or something workable) of the last known full sync?

99% is not fully synced and can still cause reorgs if the wallet has enough ecc staking to overpower everyone else. Unless a checkpoint server is used to prevent it.

 Cool


FYI:
This is only an issue for ECC, because their are not enough people staking 24x7 with enough coins to secure the blockchain.

humm.. what about distributed checkpoints? the distribution of checkpoints is expensive right?... does it make sense? Not quite seeing the implications of it... throwing ideas..
basically it would act as a sort/of voting system inside checkpointing.
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June 22, 2015, 08:26:53 AM
Thx for Update
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 08:18:31 AM
Why not just allow to send stake if after having 99% (or something workable) of the last known full sync?

99% is not fully synced and can still cause reorgs if the wallet has enough ecc staking to overpower everyone else. Unless a checkpoint server is used to prevent it.

 Cool


FYI:
This is only an issue for ECC, because their are not enough people staking 24x7 with enough coins to secure the blockchain.
sr. member
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June 22, 2015, 08:06:02 AM
we found out this morning that somehow the wallet did a rollback of 4844 blocks and reconnected 94 blocks to what it thinks was a better chain. im not sure how it determined this, but it is clearly wrong and the code itself will be looked into. until then please upgrade to wallets 2.4.5 (will be posted in a second) which contain a few fixes plus a fix for this blockchain error

FYI:
Chain Reorganization
The term "blockchain reorganization" is used to refer to the situation where a client discovers a new difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain which excludes one or more blocks that the client previously thought were part of the difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain. These excluded blocks become orphans.
Chain reorganization is a client-local phenomenon; the entire bitcoin network doesn't "reorganize" simultaneously.

What probably happened
ECC current difficulty is very low, someone started their wallet and did not make sure their wallet was synced before they started minting, so they had enough coins staking that it created a longer chain or a longer chain with more difficulty than the current blockchain, this caused the reorg.

Ways users can stop this in the future, everyone should encrypt their wallets and only begin minting after fully synced or you need someone with a massive amount of coins to stake 24x7 to make sure the current chain has a longer length with more difficulty.
Only way the Dev can stop it is , if you setup a checkpoint server to secure the blockchain from reorgs.
Basically put out a checkpoint every few hours.

 Cool



Why not just allow to send stake if after having 99% (or something workable) of the last known full sync?
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 08:00:44 AM
we found out this morning that somehow the wallet did a rollback of 4844 blocks and reconnected 94 blocks to what it thinks was a better chain. im not sure how it determined this, but it is clearly wrong and the code itself will be looked into. until then please upgrade to wallets 2.4.5 (will be posted in a second) which contain a few fixes plus a fix for this blockchain error

FYI:
Chain Reorganization
The term "blockchain reorganization" is used to refer to the situation where a client discovers a new difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain which excludes one or more blocks that the client previously thought were part of the difficultywise-longest well-formed blockchain. These excluded blocks become orphans.
Chain reorganization is a client-local phenomenon; the entire bitcoin network doesn't "reorganize" simultaneously.

What probably happened
ECC current difficulty is very low, someone started their wallet and did not make sure their wallet was synced before they started minting, so they had enough coins staking that it created a longer chain or a longer chain with more difficulty than the current blockchain, this caused the reorg.

Ways users can stop this in the future, everyone should encrypt their wallets and only begin minting after fully synced or you need someone with a massive amount of coins to stake 24x7 to make sure the current chain has a longer length with more difficulty.
Only way the Dev can stop it is , if you setup a checkpoint server to secure the blockchain from reorgs.
Basically put out a checkpoint every few hours.

 Cool

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June 22, 2015, 07:56:10 AM
Works fine here...



I can not open  mega.co.nz


legendary
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June 22, 2015, 07:52:24 AM
I will be putting a link to the correct blockchain up as soon as it uploads to mega. please download that blockchain. replace it with the one you have and use the 2.4.5 wallet. i will be talking with bleutrade tonight about making sure everything is ok with them. DO NOT TRADE COINS ON ALLCOIN. THE EXCHANGE IS NOT STABLE OR SAFE

thank you
-griffith
Bleutrade and BlockExplorer are on the correct blockchain and updated??
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June 22, 2015, 07:50:23 AM
Works fine here...
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June 22, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
https://mega.co.nz/#!SBslFYRL!EEugxUetXCwbtOFf23lppbCOfw0IItosff1syYbUBo8


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give a link to another file hosting
sr. member
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June 22, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
Updated... we should have something like blockchain monitor.. give names (tags) to the blockchain hash.. It makes everyone to become a monitor.. and report easily if are over the "correct" one... something over the front page! =) It will also make life easier in logs..

legendary
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June 21, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
PLEASE UPDATE YOUR WALLETS TO THE 2.4.5 VERSION, LINKS ARE ON THE TRUSTEDCRYPTOS WEBSITE (also in the OP)

PLEASE UPDATE YOUR BLOCKCHAIN FROM THE NEW BOOTSTRAP https://mega.co.nz/#!SBslFYRL!EEugxUetXCwbtOFf23lppbCOfw0IItosff1syYbUBo8 (will also be posted on the OP)

If you DO NOT DO THIS you will be on the wrong chain

legendary
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June 21, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
I will be putting a link to the correct blockchain up as soon as it uploads to mega. please download that blockchain. replace it with the one you have and use the 2.4.5 wallet. i will be talking with bleutrade tonight about making sure everything is ok with them. DO NOT TRADE COINS ON ALLCOIN. THE EXCHANGE IS NOT STABLE OR SAFE

thank you
-griffith
legendary
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June 21, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
New wallets uploaded to our website http://www.trustedcryptos.com/downloads.php.

The links in the OP are not updated yet.
legendary
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June 21, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
we found out this morning that somehow the wallet did a rollback of 4844 blocks and reconnected 94 blocks to what it thinks was a better chain. im not sure how it determined this, but it is clearly wrong and the code itself will be looked into. until then please upgrade to wallets 2.4.5 (will be posted in a second) which contain a few fixes plus a fix for this blockchain error
sr. member
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June 21, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Are we possibly forked again on ECC? My wallet had been open for a while (weeks) and staking without any issues. Suddenly it showed that it was 1,600+ blocks behind and went into overdrive catching up. Then it got stuck with 1,500 or so blocks to go.

Restarted the wallet, and all of the transactions since 6/14 have disappeared. Wallet shows 4 active connections to the network, that it is fully synchronized, and that the current block is 700258 generated on Sun Jun 21 11:59:00 2015 (timezone is Eastern U.S.). Block explorer shows that 700258 was generated on 2015-06-17 00:09:37, however the block explorer is also a day behind.

Scratching my head. Wallet is 2.4.4.0
sr. member
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June 21, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
Hello everyone, why I used V2.4.4.0 wallet, has been fully synchronized, wallet a confirmed transaction will sometimes not, and sometimes you can see it, I clearly see today too, recognizes the interest of mining records evening an open wallet, a no.
legendary
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June 21, 2015, 07:17:40 AM
Hmm...do you mean that your wallet doesn't show the transactions in the overview page or in the transactions page?

Nowhere. Everything is zero (0).

I confirm the "bug". Sometimes (it's my second time at least) when I leave the wallet open all day that is out of sync (next time I will get more data).....


I had the same problem. Griffith has made an update to the github that resolves that problem. I am testing this on the moment and it looks like that problem is now solved...I will let it run some more time and then update the wallets.

legendary
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June 21, 2015, 05:11:16 AM
Hmm...do you mean that your wallet doesn't show the transactions in the overview page or in the transactions page?

Nowhere. Everything is zero (0).

I confirm the "bug". Sometimes (it's my second time at least) when I leave the wallet open all day... it kind of "becomes or shows" that is out of sync (next time I will get more data). Then I restart the wallet and the transactions page does not have the latest transactions... It looks like they are not rewritten over the file due some GUI stuff... The coins are present... it's NOT a blockchain problem. It must be something related to the thread level where it receives something that it's not expected and reseats... to the time the wallet was started. Just a guess... next time I will get proper info.

Nothing to worry about to the ones that do not understand. Just close your wallet, start it again and let it go as usual.

Cheers

PS: I like the bank node stuff!!! Any new on that?

Griffith is doing tests on it...beter to ask him  Cheesy
legendary
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June 21, 2015, 05:10:02 AM
Hmm...do you mean that your wallet doesn't show the transactions in the overview page or in the transactions page?

Nowhere. Everything is zero (0).
Going to PM you to try to find a solution.

sr. member
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June 21, 2015, 04:48:33 AM
Hmm...do you mean that your wallet doesn't show the transactions in the overview page or in the transactions page?

Nowhere. Everything is zero (0).

I confirm the "bug". Sometimes (it's my second time at least) when I leave the wallet open all day... it kind of "becomes or shows" that is out of sync (next time I will get more data). Then I restart the wallet and the transactions page does not have the latest transactions... It looks like they are not rewritten over the file due some GUI stuff... The coins are present... it's NOT a blockchain problem. It must be something related to the thread level where it receives something that it's not expected and reseats... to the time the wallet was started. Just a guess... next time I will get proper info.

Nothing to worry about to the ones that do not understand. Just close your wallet, start it again and let it go as usual.

Cheers

PS: I like the bank node stuff!!! Any new on that?
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