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Topic: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts - page 408. (Read 821138 times)

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Why should ETC tokens have value at all? The tokens depend on non-consensus of ETH and them moving over. Otherwise the snapshotted state has no meaning. The occurring fungibility problems are a huge red flag. Listing ETC is bad for the exchanges who have to deal with this. This really shows the issues with hard-forks.

ETC is ethereum pre-hardFork, so why not keep it and change ticker/name to the other ethereum hardfork to something like ETHF or ETF ?

ETH miners have been upgrading software given them from ETH team from the beginning - why should this upgrade by different? The issue is you can't get rid of the dev team like this. If you have a new team, you have a new coin (team roughly corresponds to commit rights).

Little doubt in my mind ETC holders will loose out from this valuation. Most holding ETC, previous ETH holders, don't use /accept them. ETC has no development team. As an exchange listing ETC means taking on huge risks, as we have seen.

It seems hard-forks are not well understood, in particular in relation to source code publishing. I guess we will see what happens? As a merchant and exchange I think there are a lot of risks associated with ETC (and ETH I guess).

on long run ETH lost the credit liability, goodwill because the hate. The ETH investors don't like this. This is total damage  for the ethereum foundation.

I believe that ETC has already won. We waiting only for the right price.
for ETH is better to setup a holding company ETC / ETH

Only real people losing out is people that are holding hard fork ETH. ETC is ETH and you wonder why there is a bitcoin blocksize debate for over 2 years.

Problem with people saying that ETC is worthless is because they are invested in ETH and now that a hardfork has happen there are two chain and reply attacks. ETC is here to say and its more likely will gain ETH market shares.
legendary
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Next is getting actual dapps. Ethf doesn't have killer apps either, so the world is watching which chain gets profitable dapps.
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sr. member
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So this is it? Is the hashing power of ETC rising or falling? For the first few days the original has been gaining momentum. But now the people are getting anxious because it is still an uphill battle and now the stakes are high because the original chain could be attacked.

Please update us on what is going on. That will be appreciated.

Well it all looks good from here,
Eth successfully forked away from the network and established their own chain.  We wish them the very best of luck in their chosen way forward.
ETC hashrate has been steady and constant at around ~500Gh/s since shortly after the passing of Block 192......
A stable market price has been established.  Community, exchanges, users and Companies have on the whole been supportive.  A big thank you to everyone who has supported ETC.

We have been threatened with 51% attack on 2 occasions which i find both shocking and unorthodox as most attackers like to use the element of surprise and remain anonymous.  Moreover, I hope we are not entering a  new age of crypto posturing and bullying between coins.  That's just not good for crypto as a whole.

It feels nice to be free from the autocracy of adolescent dictatorship actually. Let the free markets decide who they wish to support.

I think we have successfully nailed our colours to the mast.  Don't you?
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First EthereumClassic meetup on 18 August in London https://twitter.com/bit_novosti/status/759285973981208576

Litecoin dev: Major miners are turning to #ETC now. https://twitter.com/TheRealXinxi/status/759255155674062848

Hashrate has been steady between 390-520 GH/s lately.

Down from 1500.

Things seems to stabilize around here.
The miners who got burned in the start doesnt seem to return. (simply too many issues with payouts the first days)

Maybe increased value will change their minds.
legendary
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Hey folks,

just a short heads up my US node crashed and my auto-restart script didn't catch it fast enough, so there was some loss of hashrate on the pool,
to compensate I've put fees to 0% and 20% bonus for the next 12h on https://etc.suprnova.cc

Script is now fixed, thanks for your understanding ! Smiley

Oh and BTW: why did noone tell me the ETH diff was still shown at some places, this is now fixed too Smiley

Nobody wants free coins?  Still some left...  Grab the Bonus
newbie
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time to buy more etc guys!

keep ur eyes on!
i did  Grin
legendary
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First EthereumClassic meetup on 18 August in London https://twitter.com/bit_novosti/status/759285973981208576

Litecoin dev: Major miners are turning to #ETC now. https://twitter.com/TheRealXinxi/status/759255155674062848
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time to buy more etc guys!

keep ur eyes on!
copper member
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feelingg lucky out in right time...
legendary
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Blah blah blah..sell all your shit, here's an article from some guy in his mom's basement.  

as the parroting pumpertits says in every one of his posts every other word......lol

guess im not the only one who finds this pumpy character annoying
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Eth Just dont respect nothing.
Why dont let market free?
Maybe the attaker to eth come from eth users.
legendary
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So this is it? Is the hashing power of ETC rising or falling? For the first few days the original has been gaining momentum. But now the people are getting anxious because it is still an uphill battle and now the stakes are high because the original chain could be attacked.

Please update us on what is going on. That will be appreciated.
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Learn to read dude: "Coinbase CEO admitted (2 weeks ago) there could be bugs in the DAO". We all knew it and don't need to be reminded the DAO fiasco.

Sorry dude !
sr. member
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Hi there @ocminer, i see you posting on https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p2

So do you support the 51% attack from ETH to ETC?

and

do you own https://grs.suprnova.cc/  ?  I mine Groestl with you?  You are not part of the attack are you?  Will suprnover host the attack pool?

Hey, I've closed my ETH pool because I don't support mutability blockchains or better "censorship"... Code is law and should be law, so I think I'd be the LAST person on the world attacking the chain, I'd rather set up a 0%fee counter-attack-pool ...

Thank you for clarification.  Just mindful of double agents and agentprovocateurs
sr. member
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"Coinbase CEO Admits There Could Be Bugs in Ethereum Hard fork, Celebrates Combined Value of ETH and ETC"
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/coinbase-eth-etc/


Learn to read dude: "Coinbase CEO admitted (1 week ago) there could be bugs in the DAO". We all knew it and don't need to be reminded the DAO fiasco.
legendary
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Hi there @ocminer, i see you posting on https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p2

So do you support the 51% attack from ETH to ETC?

and

do you own https://grs.suprnova.cc/  ?  I mine Groestl with you?  You are not part of the attack are you?  Will suprnover host the attack pool?

Hey, I've closed my ETH pool because I don't support mutability blockchains or better "censorship"... Code is law and should be law, so I think I'd be the LAST person on the world attacking the chain, I'd rather set up a 0%fee counter-attack-pool ...
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
Hi there @ocminer, i see you posting on https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p2

So do you support the 51% attack from ETH to ETC?

and

do you own https://grs.suprnova.cc/  ?  I mine Groestl with you?  You are not part of the attack are you?  Will suprnover host the attack pool?
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
Hey folks,

just a short heads up my US node crashed and my auto-restart script didn't catch it fast enough, so there was some loss of hashrate on the pool,
to compensate I've put fees to 0% and 20% bonus for the next 12h on https://etc.suprnova.cc

Script is now fixed, thanks for your understanding ! Smiley

Oh and BTW: why did noone tell me the ETH diff was still shown at some places, this is now fixed too Smiley
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