If the main objective of a new blockchain project like Ethereum is to create smart contracts on the blockchain to sidetrack the bloat involved in contracts as they are, why would anyone pay more for such technology than they would otherwise? If it is cheaper to use this new technology to create contracts then all invested have no chance of profit taking IMO.
Doesn't the new Viacoin Clearing House offer the same product at a much lesser price? And couldn't another pop up any day like the hundreds of alts?
Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 1214. (Read 2007101 times)
People should know, this "pre-sale" is not designed to give buyers profit. It is to fundraise for development. If you invested with the mindset your gonna make a positive ROI, you have made a mistake.
Once mining starts, presale shares will be dilluted by more than 60%. Smart people will just wait until release to mine, or buy from the miners. Not to mention, Ether is only good for people who want to create contracts. If I had to guess, I'd say 75% of investors have no intention of creating contracts. They are in it for speculation. Miners selling, presale buyers selling, and most people have no intention of creating applications = sell pressure.
It sickens me that the Ethereum team is this greedy. 26000+ btc is much more than they needed. Just greed. Not to mention all the internal beefs the Ethereum team will be having. Charles' passive aggresive Reddit title at presale tells the whole story. Team members didn't even know what day the launch was happening. Now a group of unorganized people have fundraised 26000 btc for a project that is not even in beta yet. Still proof of concept.
Once mining starts, presale shares will be dilluted by more than 60%. Smart people will just wait until release to mine, or buy from the miners. Not to mention, Ether is only good for people who want to create contracts. If I had to guess, I'd say 75% of investors have no intention of creating contracts. They are in it for speculation. Miners selling, presale buyers selling, and most people have no intention of creating applications = sell pressure.
It sickens me that the Ethereum team is this greedy. 26000+ btc is much more than they needed. Just greed. Not to mention all the internal beefs the Ethereum team will be having. Charles' passive aggresive Reddit title at presale tells the whole story. Team members didn't even know what day the launch was happening. Now a group of unorganized people have fundraised 26000 btc for a project that is not even in beta yet. Still proof of concept.
What a dumb thing to invest in.
With 1 BTC you could buy about 0,1-1% of coins like dogecoin,darkcoin in their beginings.
With 1 Btc here you ar buying about 0,0000385%
To say that differently . You are trusting ethereum about 3000-30000X more than Darkcoin. Interesting.
Or you could invest in 3000-30000 beginning altcoins.
Dont you think few would made that 10x-100x push?
Those mentioned above did just that.
With 1 BTC you could buy about 0,1-1% of coins like dogecoin,darkcoin in their beginings.
With 1 Btc here you ar buying about 0,0000385%
To say that differently . You are trusting ethereum about 3000-30000X more than Darkcoin. Interesting.
Or you could invest in 3000-30000 beginning altcoins.
Dont you think few would made that 10x-100x push?
Those mentioned above did just that.
Maybe Ether will be a successful investment, but I choose not to go. I just don't believe some guys (already become multi-millionaires through this IPO) will be hard working enough to turn a lot others to millionaires. We are not angel investors, and neither VC investors. We don't have access to their account books; we don't have any lawyers to protect us; and we don't have even votes. The only thing we can do is just crossing the fingers and wish those millionaires are really kind enough to not spend all those money in beach resorts, beautiful mansions, ..., but spending 12 hours a day, 6 days a week in front of computers. 
Let's wish it is possible.
BTW, do you know why CxOs cannot sell their shares as their wish after the real world IPO? The CxOs of Ether don't need to worry about this. They get all the IPO BTC and still can sell their free Ethers later as much as they want. Let's wish they are all real gentlemen.
Let's wish it is possible.BTW, do you know why CxOs cannot sell their shares as their wish after the real world IPO?
The CxOs of Ether don't need to worry about this. They get all the IPO BTC and still can sell their free Ethers later as much as they want. Let's wish they are all real gentlemen. Good point!
The current price of Ether is 0.3$. So we have over 16 mil $ atm invested in this coin. So the main dev is defenetly a millionaire cause after all it wass hes ideea.
So a millionaire working for making us millionaires asswell is very hard to believe.
Just a thought...
The bitcoin dump was for the Ethereum ipo dumping?
https://blockchain.info/tx/1f2885265a89c6817867e842edf65c536f993c0aa0100a692700a34c81230051
https://blockchain.info/tx/1f2885265a89c6817867e842edf65c536f993c0aa0100a692700a34c81230051
...this ethereum thread... oh man where do i begin?...that pyramid logo? 
Lmfao~//^over my head!!!
Lmfao~//^over my head!!! 
Maybe Ether will be a successful investment, but I choose not to go. I just don't believe some guys (already become multi-millionaires through this IPO) will be hard working enough to turn a lot others to millionaires. We are not angel investors, and neither VC investors. We don't have access to their account books; we don't have any lawyers to protect us; and we don't have even votes. The only thing we can do is just crossing the fingers and wish those millionaires are really kind enough to not spend all those money in beach resorts, beautiful mansions, ..., but spending 12 hours a day, 6 days a week in front of computers. Let's wish it is possible.
BTW, do you know why CxOs cannot sell their shares as their wish after the real world IPO? The CxOs of Ether don't need to worry about this. They get all the IPO BTC and still can sell their free Ethers later as much as they want. Let's wish they are all real gentlemen.
Let's wish it is possible.BTW, do you know why CxOs cannot sell their shares as their wish after the real world IPO?
The CxOs of Ether don't need to worry about this. They get all the IPO BTC and still can sell their free Ethers later as much as they want. Let's wish they are all real gentlemen. People are buying so madly, what would be the long term price of one ether? Will it be 100 dollars? Nay..... supply would be so much?
Well basically it takes a one big (not even huge) game-house to match that price cap estimate, so it depends about what ether can do for companies and how its used. Because if it will provide incredible building blocks to build on, it can have a lot of value, which will reflect on the price. Who knows!
This does not directly relate, but here is a bit of history:
On April 20, 2009, Sun and Oracle Corporation announced that they had entered into a definitive agreement under which Oracle would acquire Sun for $9.50 a share in cash. Net of Sun's cash and debt, this amounts to a $5.6 billion offer from Oracle.
Let's just say that the value of BTC were to continue its pattern from the last few years. If that were the case, the value of BTC would spike dramatically over the winter of 2014-15.
-Now, how would a person acquire a large sum of BTC before that happened?
-How could that person ensure that the price of BTC was suppressed just long enough (you would need a lot of BTC), eventually removing the walls and enabling a quick, emotional bull ride?
-What if you could tie up so much BTC on the market, that investors would be unable to sell off BTC during the pump, increasing the speed and height of the BTC price climb based on the appearance of unavailability and apparent demand.
-Perhaps you wouldn't even need to acquire a large sum of BTC, maybe you could just borrow it for a while...long enough to make a profit and then give the BTC back. (like butterfly labs!)
-Now, where could you get (borrow) millions of dollars worth of BTC? Could you make people believe that they had a lot to gain by letting you borrow hold their BTC right before the value of BTC skyrocketed?
-What if you don't know the exact date that BTC will rise, but you have it narrowed down to the winter of 2014-2015?
Oh conspiracy theories lol...
...but if that thought process led to the "creation" of ethereum, wouldn't it just be the greatest scam in crypto yet! Hopefully that isn't the case, since I bought a few
-Now, how would a person acquire a large sum of BTC before that happened?
-How could that person ensure that the price of BTC was suppressed just long enough (you would need a lot of BTC), eventually removing the walls and enabling a quick, emotional bull ride?
-What if you could tie up so much BTC on the market, that investors would be unable to sell off BTC during the pump, increasing the speed and height of the BTC price climb based on the appearance of unavailability and apparent demand.
-Perhaps you wouldn't even need to acquire a large sum of BTC, maybe you could just borrow it for a while...long enough to make a profit and then give the BTC back. (like butterfly labs!)
-Now, where could you get (borrow) millions of dollars worth of BTC? Could you make people believe that they had a lot to gain by letting you borrow hold their BTC right before the value of BTC skyrocketed?
-What if you don't know the exact date that BTC will rise, but you have it narrowed down to the winter of 2014-2015?
Oh conspiracy theories lol...
...but if that thought process led to the "creation" of ethereum, wouldn't it just be the greatest scam in crypto yet! Hopefully that isn't the case, since I bought a few
People are buying so madly, what would be the long term price of one ether? Will it be 100 dollars? Nay..... supply would be so much?
Total received 26,248.53679229 BTC 
Buying ether for 3K sat per coin PM me if interested
Lol, you want 33333 Ether per BTC?
Buying ether for 3K sat per coin PM me if interested
where can i trade this coin
what you need THIS MUCH money for man? your instantly rich ?
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
Are you serious? It's take as much as you can get! Why hold back if people are going to give it to you?
I cant take your opinion serious, you'll defend the coin no matter what since you bought from the IPO.
They've already completed a large amount of the work and progress has been excellent. As I understand the main problem lies with continuing the work in silicone valley, because it's very hard to get taken seriously unless you're known to be having coke fueled orgies with Russian prostitutes, or drive a Venom GT or equivalent race car 
This is just retarded on so many levels.I think they should have closed their funding from VCs instead of offering currency in IPO style, people buying this are speculators who have 0 clue about a single line of code up on their github page, and thus the "value" of their work will be represented in the value of the currency, which is subject to spculation and massive drops/surges. Not to mention navigating "silicon valley" without investors for imigrant russians is not the easiest thing to do.
I put up a little art auction for Ethereum:
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/1273/into-genesis-oil-painting-auction
"INTO GENESIS"
13 x 23 inches
Oil on birch panel, wooden frame
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/1273/into-genesis-oil-painting-auction
"INTO GENESIS"
13 x 23 inches
Oil on birch panel, wooden frame
what you need THIS MUCH money for man? your instantly rich ?
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
Are you serious? It's take as much as you can get! Why hold back if people are going to give it to you?
i dont understand you, i watched the movie on their site and still dont see why the IPO shoulds be 20 MILLION USD.
Because if some money is left over then they can keep it?
what you need THIS MUCH money for man? your instantly rich ?
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
Are you serious? It's take as much as you can get! Why hold back if people are going to give it to you?
i dont understand you, i watched the movie on their site and still dont see why the IPO shoulds be 20 MILLION USD.
what you need THIS MUCH money for man? your instantly rich ?
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
so ipo is 60 0000 sat per coin?
51 million x 60 000 sat = 27576 BITCOIN is what you have from IPO atm
Are you serious? It's take as much as you can get! Why hold back if people are going to give it to you?
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