[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 1275.

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Quote from: _ingsoc on January 29, 2014, 05:52:09 AM

Quote from: k99 on January 29, 2014, 05:47:59 AM

Why should they wast they time to answer to people who are incapable to read the official docs? >90% here is just FUD/totally unqualified posts.
People who really are interested should take at least 1 hour and read about it and try to understand it. Maybe not everything is so easy for the first moment and the IPO has some complexity, but to write SCAM without having any idea about it, disqualifies just yourself.

They will not listen to reason. Soon they will be in here again. The likes of gutshot5820 sleep now, but soon they wake... Reinforce the barricades! While we still have time!

If you see his latest post he claims he's so excited about buying in on this he was trolling to try and reduce the volume of the buy in, in the hope of making his stake bigger. Why he spent so much time passionately trolling the thread to admit that before the buy in is beyond me! Huh

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Quote from: Chang Hum on January 29, 2014, 05:51:06 AM

Does anybody understand, what was the point of Gunshot's 100 posts?

If he had made 10 posts, sure, he's probably a little weird and OCD about shouting really loud when around people. But 100s of posts? He's likely a mastermind of disinformation. He knows how to scare people and profit from it. Cometh the hour, cometh the man, we must brace ourselves for this is not an enemy we know.

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Quote from: _ingsoc on January 29, 2014, 05:47:34 AM

Quote from: Chris001 on January 29, 2014, 05:43:48 AM

I think all the people on here bashing it are just part of the promotion. Seriously, I could be wrong but those who think they can buy it cheaper later are nuts or don't really believe what they are saying IMO.

It's entirely possible that there's an organised campaign going on to scare people off. Even organised in the sense that different groups had the same idea to scare people off and are all on here in different capacities.

Yes seems to me as well. Why are people who are not interested in investment waste so much time to warn others that they think Ethereum is a scam?
- They want to invest and hope to keep the investors share small so they get a bigger percentage.
- They are invested in other projects (copycat altcoins, crypto 2.0 projects, ripple) and fear that Ethereum will vanish all these projects if it succeeds.
- Sock puppets (most of them are newbies) from guarilla marketing compaigns paid from other projects (fear of loosing investors)

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Quote from: k99 on January 29, 2014, 05:47:59 AM

Why should they wast they time to answer to people who are incapable to read the official docs? >90% here is just FUD/totally unqualified posts.
People who really are interested should take at least 1 hour and read about it and try to understand it. Maybe not everything is so easy for the first moment and the IPO has some complexity, but to write SCAM without having any idea about it, disqualifies just yourself.

They will not listen to reason. Soon they will be in here again. The likes of gutshot5820 sleep now, but soon they wake... Reinforce the barricades! While we still have time!

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Does anybody understand, what was the point of Gunshot's 100 posts?

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Quote from: k99 on January 29, 2014, 05:43:17 AM

Take you time and read the official information. The forums are full of waste unfortunately...

/r/ethereum used to be pretty good too, but it's getting infected. How will we burn the heretic, kill the mutant, and purge the unclean?

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Quote from: Tompa on January 29, 2014, 04:58:27 AM

I'm now getting more and more surprised by each passing day that NO ONE from the list has bothered to answer.

This really is looking more and more like a COMPLETE SCAM!

If anyone still thinks of investing on day 1, please read this thread from the beginning to the end. Please don't rush your decision.

Why should they wast they time to answer to people who are incapable to read the official docs? >90% here is just FUD/totally unqualified posts.
People who really are interested should take at least 1 hour and read about it and try to understand it. Maybe not everything is so easy for the first moment and the IPO has some complexity, but to write SCAM without having any idea about it, disqualifies just yourself.

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Quote from: Chris001 on January 29, 2014, 05:43:48 AM

I think all the people on here bashing it are just part of the promotion. Seriously, I could be wrong but those who think they can buy it cheaper later are nuts or don't really believe what they are saying IMO.

It's entirely possible that there's an organised campaign going on to scare people off. Even organised in the sense that different groups had the same idea to scare people off and are all on here in different capacities.

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Quote from: _ingsoc on January 29, 2014, 05:34:37 AM

Quote from: Chris001 on January 29, 2014, 05:30:20 AM

what decides if you are going to get the 2x, where is the line?

It's 2x for 7 days starting on the 1st of February 2014.

Thanks

I think all the people on here bashing it are just part of the promotion. Seriously, I could be wrong but those who think they can buy it cheaper later are nuts or don't really believe what they are saying IMO.

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Quote from: nextgencoin on January 29, 2014, 05:38:51 AM

For me the issue is not that a few of those involved worked at Goldman Sachs but simply how involved were Goldman Sachs involved in pulling this coin together. Personally I would at least want some clarification who masterminded this team to come together cause looking at the team I'm guessing they didn't just happen to be at the Pub one night. It looks too polished and diverse to be a natural gathering of people, someone clearly brought this team together and that is what I would like to know more about.

And your right working at Goldman doesn't always mean your a dick even if you are very talented.

I'm maintaining a list of questions to get some answers to. You can look at them in post #634. Charles provided an answer in a different thread about the Goldman Sachs issue.

Quote from: charleshoskinson on January 26, 2014, 08:11:28 AM

Goldman Sachs is not involved in our venture. We did not solicit them for investment, the company is not assisting us in any way.

We have two quantitative analysts on our team who both have a diverse background off and on wall street including both working for Goldman sachs at some point in their careers. Dr. Costa lives in Asia at the moment and runs an independent hedge fund and Joseph lupin has most recently been involved in the music industry in Jamaica.

The blockchain is owned by those who participate in the fundraiser and those receiving the early stakeholders premine. Let me be clear: No Bank, No financial entity including Goldman Sachs has been allocated any amount of the premine. If they want a chunk then they have to buy it once the fundraiser starts like everyone else.

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Quote from: peligro on January 29, 2014, 05:39:12 AM

Will wait and see before I decide to invest.

Looks not too nice now.

Take you time and read the official information. The forums are full of waste unfortunately...

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Will wait and see before I decide to invest.

Looks not too nice now.

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Quote from: _ingsoc on January 29, 2014, 05:09:58 AM

Quote from: becoin on January 29, 2014, 04:58:05 AM

Oh, am I? Why would you work upon a crypto currency project and use the brand of a major bank to add trustworthiness to your project? Could you explain why putting the name of Goldman Sachs behind a project like Ethereum is a good thing? I'm ready to learn from you.

I'm not trying to school you. You make up your own mind. If you're in finance, in any way, you've probably worked for one of the big guys if you're smart. They tend to hire the best, and the the ones that go to the top are probably not very good people but excellent at what they do. If anything, if these guys didn't go into management at Goldman Sachs, they're probably not bad guys. Take Snowden for example, worked for the NSA, was unhappy with what happened there, and left.

My question is: Would you have preferred Charles lie about the past work experience of people involved? They have as much right to be involved in cryptocurrency as anyone here.

For me the issue is not that a few of those involved worked at Goldman Sachs but simply how involved were Goldman Sachs involved in pulling this coin together. Personally I would at least want some clarification who masterminded this team to come together cause looking at the team I'm guessing they didn't just happen to be at the Pub one night. It looks too polished and diverse to be a natural gathering of people, someone clearly brought this team together and that is what I would like to know more about.

And your right working at Goldman doesn't always mean your a dick even if you are very talented.

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Quote from: becoin on January 29, 2014, 05:30:34 AM

The question is not about the right to participate. The question is why is Charles proud of that fact? It looks like a major inconsistency to me. It is like working on a new mail server app and in the same time promoting your project by saying that some members of your team worked in the local post office and were among the best postmen?!

BTW, why has Charles parted with BitShares and Invictus project? What happened to the 0.5 million VC there? Are his investors happy with current state of BitShares and Invictus?

Who says he's "proud"? To me it just sounded like he said it in passing. The question about Invictus is important to me as well. I know it's probably a touchy subject, but if he got voted out of the company, is that going to have an impact on the future of this project? I'm not trying to fear monger, but some type of statement on what happened there and what protects supporters of this project from a repeat occurrence would be nice.

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Quote from: Chris001 on January 29, 2014, 05:30:20 AM

what decides if you are going to get the 2x, where is the line?

It's 2x for 7 days starting on the 1st of February 2014.

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Quote from: ninjaboon on January 29, 2014, 04:59:43 AM

OP, good luck on the project. I've seen many twts about it and I found a fake post on it at https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/3775-ethereum-ipo-launched/#entry33341

Wow. People have already sent funds to that address. Need to report that as a scam to CryptoCoinTalk. The user is even "Vitalik Buterin".

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Quote from: _ingsoc on January 29, 2014, 05:09:58 AM

My question is: Would you have preferred Charles lie about the past work experience of people involved? They have as much right to be involved in cryptocurrency as anyone here.

The question is not about the right to participate. The question is why is Charles proud of that fact? It looks like a major inconsistency to me. It is like working on a new mail server app and in the same time promoting your project by saying that some members of your team worked in the local post office and were among the best postmen?!

BTW, why has Charles parted with BitShares and Invictus project? What happened to the 0.5 million VC there? Are his investors happy with current state of BitShares and Invictus?

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what decides if you are going to get the 2x, where is the line?

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Quote from: becoin on January 29, 2014, 04:58:05 AM

Oh, am I? Why would you work upon a crypto currency project and use the brand of a major bank to add trustworthiness to your project? Could you explain why putting the name of Goldman Sachs behind a project like Ethereum is a good thing? I'm ready to learn from you.

I'm not trying to school you. You make up your own mind. If you're in finance, in any way, you've probably worked for one of the big guys if you're smart. They tend to hire the best, and the the ones that go to the top are probably not very good people but excellent at what they do. If anything, if these guys didn't go into management at Goldman Sachs, they're probably not bad guys. Take Snowden for example, worked for the NSA, was unhappy with what happened there, and left.

My question is: Would you have preferred Charles lie about the past work experience of people involved? They have as much right to be involved in cryptocurrency as anyone here.

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OP, good luck on the project. I've seen many twts about it and I found a fake post on it at https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/3775-ethereum-ipo-launched/#entry33341

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