Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 778. (Read 2007101 times)

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 16, 2016, 11:44:42 PM

Lock up Vitalik!

https://twitter.com/ragnarly/status/765627240008736768

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

Another illiterate post by you - are you trying to set world record for the crappiest posts in Bitcointalk history!

Closing a business down, is one of most heavily regulated processes in countries (lots of laws).

There is no evidence of any impropriety and your post is like yourself is: ridiculous!

LiQio

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^
I was actually thinking that you hit rock bottom already... Roll Eyes

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Clearly, the ETC crowd know very little about businesses and they have no awareness of business and entrepeneurial history!

Peter Jones - from the UK version of Dragon Den fame, 1st business went bankrupt a common part of the learning curve

Simon Cowell - from X Factor fame, went bankrupt in his thirties a common part of learning curve

The failure of a person's 1st business does not really make much difference to long term success in future ventures!

Vitalik Buterin has, clearly, learnt from his 1st business experiences and improved his business acumen.

And, it curious how the other developers never get mentioned:

Gavin Wood →Lead C++ developer
Jeffrey Wilcke → Lead Go developer
Anthony Di Iorio → Founder and Executive Director of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada, Bitcoin Decentral, KryptoKit
Mihai Alisie → Founder of Bitcoin Magazine and Egora
Joseph Lubin → Software engineer, Quantitative Analyst
Stephan Tual →Founder of Ursium, Communication

bbc.reporter

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Hehehe. After what happened with Ethereum and all the decisions made in the face of difficulty plus allegations of involvement in scamming, I do not think any tech company will hire him now. His career in the cryptosphere may be over after Ethereum. I speculate that the foundation is just waiting for their funds to run out, after that maybe they will disband and leave the platform in the hands of the "community". They will declare that it was their intention from the beginning.

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 16, 2016, 10:35:31 PM

Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

I didn't know anything about that. Tried to find some more infos and found this:

http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/16/vitaliks-quantum-quest/

To be honest: I'm surprised! In my opinion it's about just two possibilities:

1. Intended scam?
2. "Just" naive?

I don't know of any other rational possibility here. And both of the above would be negative.

I go with "just naive". I do not think he intended to scam people in the beginning. Maybe he thinks it can really be done, which is naive or maybe it is just not doable to day and the idea is way ahead of its time. Recently I have been thinking the same of Ethereum whether the original or the fork. Vitalik himself might be starting to think that his platform is not viable for what he wants to happen.

you could be right.

i do get the feeling he already moved on.

maybe he seeks a job with microsoft .... but thats just thoughts.

he is a coder he is deep in his mind forming structures but i think he is not much in reality and if reality gets tough he tends to dive into code develeoping that calms his emotions. but thats just an impression i got .

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 16, 2016, 01:37:28 PM

I think this whole "decentralization" thing isn't really working out for you. But it's ok, maybe you'll get the hang of it eventually, or you could just use a credit card.

I see my sweet thing Suchmoon has moved on to bigger and better projects to wreck. How was your vacation? I hope you and your hubby had a good time. I wanted to show a picture of how things are in the Suchmoon household- I like it when you smile Suchmoon (and I really like it when you are angry)

I can't really get angry at mentally disadvantaged individuals like yourself, just bemused is all. How long can you possibly stay butthurt about your piddly shitcoin scams? XPY died more than a year ago, BST - six months ago, ION is successfully fucking itself up without my help... am I forgetting something even more pathetic that I may have offended?

And what exactly am I wrecking here? ETH? ETC? Not sure how I could achieve either, even if I tried.

cmon guys, i dunno if this pic is really who its supposed to be and im not really suchmoons biggest fan...if fact suchmoon told me im their hobby,lol....

anyways...please delete the pic..no need for it here

i shocked etc thread mod would paste the pic here.
i cant believe you etc guys can turn on your own...suchmoon has been so helpful to you guys and this is what you do!!
thanks

Chill. I'm not anyone's "own" nor does it matter who quotes some shitdoxer or other. Let's get back to bad math and other assorted mudslinging please.

i like your attitude

thats the best way to deal with a stalker

about the subject

we are all seeking a new way of law

then investigation is what threads like this do

a sumary of facts not so much facts and opinions . and also rumors
with time the facts become clear.

and its decentraliced which is good but it would need a more structured form
any ideas ?

bbc.reporter

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Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

I didn't know anything about that. Tried to find some more infos and found this:

http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/16/vitaliks-quantum-quest/

To be honest: I'm surprised! In my opinion it's about just two possibilities:

1. Intended scam?
2. "Just" naive?

I don't know of any other rational possibility here. And both of the above would be negative.

I go with "just naive". I do not think he intended to scam people in the beginning. Maybe he thinks it can really be done, which is naive or maybe it is just not doable to day and the idea is way ahead of its time. Recently I have been thinking the same of Ethereum whether the original or the fork. Vitalik himself might be starting to think that his platform is not viable for what he wants to happen.

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: suchmoon on August 16, 2016, 01:37:28 PM

I think this whole "decentralization" thing isn't really working out for you. But it's ok, maybe you'll get the hang of it eventually, or you could just use a credit card.

I see my sweet thing Suchmoon has moved on to bigger and better projects to wreck. How was your vacation? I hope you and your hubby had a good time. I wanted to show a picture of how things are in the Suchmoon household- I like it when you smile Suchmoon (and I really like it when you are angry)

I can't really get angry at mentally disadvantaged individuals like yourself, just bemused is all. How long can you possibly stay butthurt about your piddly shitcoin scams? XPY died more than a year ago, BST - six months ago, ION is successfully fucking itself up without my help... am I forgetting something even more pathetic that I may have offended?

And what exactly am I wrecking here? ETH? ETC? Not sure how I could achieve either, even if I tried.

Quote from: bitpop on August 16, 2016, 08:29:59 PM

cmon guys, i dunno if this pic is really who its supposed to be and im not really suchmoons biggest fan...if fact suchmoon told me im their hobby,lol....

anyways...please delete the pic..no need for it here

i shocked etc thread mod would paste the pic here.
i cant believe you etc guys can turn on your own...suchmoon has been so helpful to you guys and this is what you do!!
thanks

Chill. I'm not anyone's "own" nor does it matter who quotes some shitdoxer or other. Let's get back to bad math and other assorted mudslinging please.

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Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

I didn't know anything about that. Tried to find some more infos and found this:

http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/16/vitaliks-quantum-quest/

To be honest: I'm surprised! In my opinion it's about just two possibilities:

1. Intended scam?
2. "Just" naive?

I don't know of any other rational possibility here. And both of the above would be negative.

Cloud mining scamming before it was cool

Hey probly runs genesis mining, goddamnit scammed me twice dude fuck.

bitpop

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Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

I didn't know anything about that. Tried to find some more infos and found this:

http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/16/vitaliks-quantum-quest/

To be honest: I'm surprised! In my opinion it's about just two possibilities:

1. Intended scam?
2. "Just" naive?

I don't know of any other rational possibility here. And both of the above would be negative.

Cloud mining scamming before it was cool

tempus

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Quote from: becoin on August 16, 2016, 06:09:26 PM

Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

I didn't know anything about that. Tried to find some more infos and found this:

http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/16/vitaliks-quantum-quest/

To be honest: I'm surprised! In my opinion it's about just two possibilities:

1. Intended scam?
2. "Just" naive?

I don't know of any other rational possibility here. And both of the above would be negative.

bitpop

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Roll back quantum mining!

tylerderden

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Shocker. He must have rolled it back

bitpop

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Vitalik has been involved in earlier scams before the ethereum scam

He actually duped people into giving him bitcoin for "quantum mining"

Even Homero didn't lie that much

tempus

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Does anybody know what Peter Todd means with this?

Peter Todd ‏@petertoddbtc
Allegedly @VitalikButerin was previously involved in a quantum computing scam. Anyone have more info on this?
https://m.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4xqwzt/comment/d6hxrpr

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/765598522229919744

Edit: Didn't see this on first look. He refers to this:

"Vitalik's project immediately before Ethereum is that he was collecting investments from people to fund building a computer program to solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time, supposedly by simulating a quantum computer. (Never mind that even real QC aren't conjectured to be able to do that, nor does 'simulation' make any sense; unless BPP == BQP thats not even possible, and virtually all experts agree the complexity classes are probably not equivalent). He built up a reputation for himself writing tech explainers of other people's ideas usually without any attribution (until someone complains), making him look like the author. Beyond ripping off other's ideas, Vitalik has had virtually no interaction with Bitcoin developers, having never contributed to Bitcoin development."

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ETHF is bleeding and is sold out day after day.

Yep and supporters are getting upgrades soon. To bagholders.

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 16, 2016, 08:06:53 AM