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Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue

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only now i see eth wallet is working also for win 32 .
Why it was about 1 year to fix node problem  Angry
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
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Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.


lol, there are many bigger exchanges than polo for ETH and yes there is also secret exchanges...ETH has a few decentralized exchanges thanks to the Ethereum network making it possible  Tongue

Name one exchange that has higher ETH/BTC volume than Poloniex.
read again....are you saying polo is the biggest exchange out there?

anyways why are all you etc bagholders feel the need to comment on everything ETH related...no where did i mention my other coin ( free etc..what a great deal )

I'm not an ETC bagholder and it is my hobby to call you out on your increasingly dumb lies. I think I'm doing ETH a favor since you're masquerading as an ETH supporter and I guess we wouldn't want anyone to think that such an imbecile is in any way representative of ETH supporters in general.
lol of course your an etc bagholder..its nothing to be ashamed of, lol even if you did buy or mine it. Tongue

sad...i feel real sorry for you now Cry gimme yor etc addy ill send u some etc, go out and enjoy yourself...
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.


lol, there are many bigger exchanges than polo for ETH and yes there is also secret exchanges...ETH has a few decentralized exchanges thanks to the Ethereum network making it possible  Tongue

Name one exchange that has higher ETH/BTC volume than Poloniex.
read again....are you saying polo is the biggest exchange out there?

anyways why are all you etc bagholders feel the need to comment on everything ETH related...no where did i mention my other coin ( free etc..what a great deal )

I'm not an ETC bagholder and it is my hobby to call you out on your increasingly dumb lies. I think I'm doing ETH a favor since you're masquerading as an ETH supporter and I guess we wouldn't want anyone to think that such an imbecile is in any way representative of ETH supporters in general.
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.


lol, there are many bigger exchanges than polo for ETH and yes there is also secret exchanges...ETH has a few decentralized exchanges thanks to the Ethereum network making it possible  Tongue

Name one exchange that has higher ETH/BTC volume than Poloniex.
read again....are you saying polo is the biggest exchange out there?

anyways why are all you etc bagholders feel the need to comment on everything ETH related...no where did i mention my other coin ( free etc..what a great deal )
legendary
Activity: 3654
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https://bpip.org
https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.


lol, there are many bigger exchanges than polo for ETH and yes there is also secret exchanges...ETH has a few decentralized exchanges thanks to the Ethereum network making it possible  Tongue

Name one exchange that has higher ETH/BTC volume than Poloniex.
legendary
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.


lol, there are many bigger exchanges than polo for ETH and yes there is also secret exchanges...ETH has a few decentralized exchanges thanks to the Ethereum network making it possible  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3654
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https://bpip.org
https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Right. Because it would be impossible to imagine that Poloniex perhaps moved their coins to another wallet after the fork. And all those orders are fake. And there is some secret exchange that everybody moved to. Sounds totally legit.

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legendary
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Maybe they are just slowly moving the coins to a different key.
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue


Why should ETH-traders don't like/trust Polo? In my opinion it's by far the best exchange.
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https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88
Address  0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88

Home Normal AccountsAddress

Overview | Poloniex Wallet
ETH Balance:    52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19)

woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+
then last week it was $3mill+
a few days ago till today it was $1mill+
and now almost half a mill!

guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now  Tongue
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Make Ethereum Great Again
by Donald J. Trump

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.
[...]
The theft of a USD $1billion dollar blockchain with trading assets, copyright material, websites, logos, github, development funds and employees was switched with fraudulent software. The Exchanges are now operating orderbooks with cloned software belonging to the original Blockchain. We seek to reinstate new leaders of the foundation and reclaim our $1B USD in assets.
[...]
UPDATE 29 July 2016: The Ethereum Foundation maliciously coded bugs into the hardfork update resulting in the theft of customer assets from 2 major exchanges Coinbase and BTCe.
[...]
Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655.



lols aaaalllllrighty then  Cheesy  , go on guys donate  Cheesy Cheesy
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Make Ethereum Great Again
by Donald J. Trump

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.
[...]
The theft of a USD $1billion dollar blockchain with trading assets, copyright material, websites, logos, github, development funds and employees was switched with fraudulent software. The Exchanges are now operating orderbooks with cloned software belonging to the original Blockchain. We seek to reinstate new leaders of the foundation and reclaim our $1B USD in assets.
[...]
UPDATE 29 July 2016: The Ethereum Foundation maliciously coded bugs into the hardfork update resulting in the theft of customer assets from 2 major exchanges Coinbase and BTCe.
[...]
Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655.

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Pretty interesting article from a layman's view of Ethereum.  For those that don't follow, this guy specifically writes about stocks and investments in general.

http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/07/palm-beach-issuing-a-strong-buy-recommendation-for-the-next-bitcoin/
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
Classic is not Ethereum because of:
a) Ether holders voted decidedly for the hard fork (and, by proxy, against Classic). True, only about 5.5% of the total supply of ether was used to vote, but that is no reason to deem the it invalid because the vote was well advertised and anyone who wanted to vote did so. For instance, I did not participate because the side I was supporting had already been winning by a huge margin.
b) Miners voted in support of the hard fork, e.g. https://dwarfpool.com/eth/voting. Again, low turnout does not mean inconsequential results for the same reasons as in point a)
c.i) The Foundation has recently announced that they will be supporting the non-Classic chain
Seeing the results of various metrics, including carbonvote, dapp and ecosystem infrastructure adoption, this means that we will focus our resources and attention on the chain which is now called ETH (ie. the fork chain)
c.ii) Ethcore (disclaimer: I actually work with these guys) has been pro-fork from the start and that position still has not changed, even despite Gavin’s recent, either misexpressed or largely misunderstood, tweet

c.iii) DApps, blockchain explorers and toolkit devs are sticking to the forked (ETH) chain as well, e.g.

At least one pool's users voted against the Bailout Edition, yet were overruled.

Something about superdelegates.   Huh

The rushed, stage-managed pro-Bailout "election" was as crooked as the Democrat primary.

Even worse, the Bailout referendum was held suddenly while at least Hillary gave Bernie voters plenty of notice in advance.

I wonder how much hanging chad there was!!  Cheesy
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Classic is not Ethereum because of:
a) Ether holders voted decidedly for the hard fork (and, by proxy, against Classic). True, only about 5.5% of the total supply of ether was used to vote, but that is no reason to deem the it invalid because the vote was well advertised and anyone who wanted to vote did so. For instance, I did not participate because the side I was supporting had already been winning by a huge margin.
b) Miners voted in support of the hard fork, e.g. https://dwarfpool.com/eth/voting. Again, low turnout does not mean inconsequential results for the same reasons as in point a)
c.i) The Foundation has recently announced that they will be supporting the non-Classic chain
Seeing the results of various metrics, including carbonvote, dapp and ecosystem infrastructure adoption, this means that we will focus our resources and attention on the chain which is now called ETH (ie. the fork chain)
c.ii) Ethcore (disclaimer: I actually work with these guys) has been pro-fork from the start and that position still has not changed, even despite Gavin’s recent, either misexpressed or largely misunderstood, tweet

c.iii) DApps, blockchain explorers and toolkit devs are sticking to the forked (ETH) chain as well, e.g.

At least one pool's users voted against the Bailout Edition, yet were overruled.

Something about superdelegates.   Huh

The rushed, stage-managed pro-Bailout "election" was as crooked as the Democrat primary.

Even worse, the Bailout referendum was held suddenly while at least Hillary gave Bernie voters plenty of notice in advance.
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"Once we did it, it would ruin the credibility of their coin."


It's naive. Because it would also ruin more credibility of Ethereum.

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#Free market
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- Why should companies trust ETH instead of ETC if ETC will be technically the same as ETH?

- Why shouldn't they use ETC if it's the same as ETH if they can trust ETC more than ETH?

- Why should anybody trust the original team and not the original chain?


I think the idea is that many (perhaps most) of pre-fork ETH bagholders were invested in the DAO thus they will trust ETH (i.e. the chain that bailed them out). This includes ETH devs and many other entities that build stuff around ETH. However as the time goes on and new people enter the scene this might become less important.

Another aspect of the bailout is that it didn't (and couldn't) restore the status quo to what it was before the DAO collapse. ETH exchange rate has dropped significantly and hasn't recovered after the fork, which basically means that the bailout was paid for by everyone and it didn't quite live up to the "law and order" expectations. Again, as the time goes on the futility of the fork might become better understood.

Investors won't decide. Potential users will decide. And if more should decide like Stampery - Ethereum will die, also Investors will los trust.

The price also could be a risk, because Ethereum would lose also credibility if there should be dumping. That's not that much of a risk for ETC because it's more expected: It still involves theDAO.

And if the price should go up again, it wouldn't mean anything. I would believe it's manipulated, because I always believed that it was and is (at least backed). But potential users won't say "wow, nice price, let's use Ethereum". They have to consider more.
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I hope developers realize that not only can they get forked, now eth miners have no morals and will 51% attack them. Eth has no morals

I've seen the plans for an 51%-attack on the ETH-forum and I don't have much doubt that there will be some kinds of attacks. But: There is a psychological problem that shouldn't be underestimated: How does the ETH-team look now?

Short overview:

1. They (or some of them) developed theDAO
2. TheDAO was funded with a lot of team-money - ridiculous $150 Mio in total. That's 3 times of the original Ethereum-CFC if I recall it correctly(?)
3. Slock.it wanted funds - could be seen as intention to develop theDAO - could give a shady impression
4. TheDAO launched on Polo - and it wasn't too successfully while some even believed it would rise in price --> totally misconception/irrational
5. Than the "Hack" - and obviously: All warnings ignored but claimed it would be secure. It says some things about them as developers.
6. Articles come out, not blaming just the code of theDAO but the Ethereum-coding-language: Solidity
7. Decision to do rush out a HF, because time is running -  and totally convinced the other chain would die soon after
8. But: ETC lives and gets stronger - not weaker (at least for now)

And now add to this:

9. Ethereum-guys attack the original chain to bail out their butts again.


All points smell like "money is the priority" while nothing seems professional. For me personally just the existence of theDAO was a signal not to touch Ethereum. Not because I believed it would be not secure. I have no clue about coding. But the economical side was bad in my eyes, for Ethereum. I mean, it's speculation because we will never find out. But also the high funding was not rational. It seemed too shady, to much like: Easy way to get funds for other Ethereum-projects.

And the believe of blinded Investors, the price could increase beyond the funding was totally naive. It had to go down, because every time it would have invested it would have "lost" funds (to invest) while there always would have been the possibility of a bad investment.


Thing is: Without any doubt they have a very serious credibility-problem now and that will become worse if they should attack ETC and be successful in killing it.

Out of their perspective it would be rational to do it, because if ETC survives it really could be the beginning of Ethereums dead. But if Ethereum-members and miners should be responsible for it, there will be many people in Crypto, maybe a majority, who will disagree with that.

Again it would seem as if the team will do anything to rescue themselves. In combination with all what happened before, and some articles that were highly critical about the DAO and even more, it will begin to seem shady. I mean, Vitalik Buterin is one of the biggest stars in Crypto. People have a lot of respect for him and I really respect him as well and I don't believe that he ever had bad intentions or is in the Game just for the money. But people will lose faith.

And: Even without any thoughts about ETC, the next bad news for Ethereum, if there should come out more flaws regarding the code or whatever: Not sure if it would survive. As I said: I'm not a coder, but there seem to be serious problems and if not even ETH-Dev's are able to develop a smart contract in a secure way - who will use Ethereum for smart contracts?

And of course: That would also be a problem for ETC if true.





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