another eth-DAO scam...
Hong Coin, a post-DAO Organization on Blockchain
https://medium.com/@hongcoin/hong-coin-a-post-dao-organization-on-blockchain-cf88605cede5#.nz7i5e56j
come on people.....buy-buy-buy!
Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 831. (Read 2007101 times)
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The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.
You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?
That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.
No, there is no contradiction. The community as a whole chose the proposed HF. That does not mean that every single person chose or was in favor of the HF. That isn't a requirement either. But if you're going to remain in the community you have to at least act as if you've accepted the decision.
What ETC has done is to ignore this. They've decided to not respect the choice of the community and create an altcoin. Which is fine in crypto. But what isn't fine is them running around spamming Ethereum threads with misinformation about Ethereum and their new altcoin.
Otoh it does show their lack of seriousness and will accelerate their decline into insignificance.
LOL how will realworld investors/stakeholders/business and even everyday users take crypto and alt coin seriously with ETH/ETC actions and craziness happening like this?!?! It's like BTC stupid annoying lil bother that keeps fucking things up always for the family! Nobody will take seriously now!! LMAO. I can see poloniex taking a big hit too.
LTC is just the retarded lil brother now for BTC haha.
LTC is just the retarded lil brother now for BTC haha.
How about exchanges like Bittrex, they are still using ETH. Also etherpool is still using ETH?
Lets get back to keeping ETH talk here, and ETC talk in the ETC thread.
There is 3 ETH now:ETH pre-fork (it is history now)
ETH fork (pro-forkers choice)
ETH non-forked (identical to ETH pre-fork and direct successor)
This is why exchanges have to maintain different wallets and keep track of the 3 eth-tokens!
Only the original ethereum blockchain (ETC or ethereum classic) and the ethereum fork blockchain (ETH).
If you didn't upgrade the client than you are still on the 'original old' blockchain, which is ETC aka ethereum classic.
Lets get back to keeping ETH talk here, and ETC talk in the ETC thread.
There is 3 ETH now:ETH pre-fork (it is history now)
ETH fork (pro-forkers choice)
ETH non-forked (identical to ETH pre-fork and direct successor)
This is why exchanges have to maintain different wallets and keep track of the 3 eth-tokens!
did polinex just create the tokens out of thin air or can anyone with prefork ether also create etc...absent from putting it on polinex and having them do conversion?
Because if one can create etc from pre fork eth and be able to retain both, then isn't it possible that eth wales ...like exchanges and like the dev team are just using this opportunity to make more of a bundle.
best of both worlds...get back DAO money from HF eth.........and create fee etc from original chain
its a no brainer....why not support non fork eth too....all that etc is free. they could dump anytime or if it gains traction hold and make more.
Because if one can create etc from pre fork eth and be able to retain both, then isn't it possible that eth wales ...like exchanges and like the dev team are just using this opportunity to make more of a bundle.
best of both worlds...get back DAO money from HF eth.........and create fee etc from original chain
its a no brainer....why not support non fork eth too....all that etc is free. they could dump anytime or if it gains traction hold and make more.
There is nothing to create. If you have a pre-fork ETH balance you also have an ETC balance, you just need to install ETC client and import the private keys. If you were a Poloniex customer they did it for you, i.e. you would have your ETC in your Poloniex wallet.
One thing that all (forkers or not) need to understand is that ETC is not free. Even if you look at the exchange rates you'll see that ETH dropped quite a lot since the DAO fuckup and a bit more since the fork. Any rise in ETC price is likely to cause ETH to go down and vice versa. They are the same coin except the fork tries to shift the responsibility for the aforementioned DAO fuckup.
Now excuse me while I go and fork Bitcoin to get Cryptsy and Mt. Gox coins returned to the bagholders. My righteous fork must be respected by everyone or else.
I have a suggestion.
Lets let the mining and markets talk.
Our shitstorm in both threads leads to NOTHING.
Lets get back to keeping ETH talk here, and ETC talk in the ETC thread.
We will see in a months time what happens.
(i really want news when i see new post, and not all this bullshit)
you didn't realize there is no Ethereum anymore. there does exist child s**tcoin ETH and child s**tcoin ETC. but Ethereum is dead already.
I have a suggestion.
Lets let the mining and markets talk.
Our shitstorm in both threads leads to NOTHING.
Lets get back to keeping ETH talk here, and ETC talk in the ETC thread.
We will see in a months time what happens.
(i really want news when i see new post, and not all this bullshit)
The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.
You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?
That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.
so dao investors get their forked-eth back
eth holders get free etc to hold or dump
exchanges make more in trading fees
pools make more in mining fees
everybody plays ...everybody wins
eth holders get free etc to hold or dump
exchanges make more in trading fees
pools make more in mining fees
everybody plays ...everybody wins
Not everybody.
Corrected for you.
so dao investors get their eth back
eth holders get free etc to hold or dump
exchanges make more in trading fees
pools make more in mining fees
everybody plays ...everybody wins
eth holders get free etc to hold or dump
exchanges make more in trading fees
pools make more in mining fees
everybody plays ...everybody wins
Thank You . it is clear now
did polinex just create the tokens out of thin air or can anyone with prefork ether also create etc...absent from putting it on polinex and having them do conversion?
Because if one can create etc from pre fork eth and be able to retain both, then isn't it possible that eth wales ...like exchanges and like the dev team are just using this opportunity to make more of a bundle.
best of both worlds...get back DAO money from HF eth.........and create fee etc from original chain
its a no brainer....why not support non fork eth too....all that etc is free. they could dump anytime or if it gains traction hold and make more.
Because if one can create etc from pre fork eth and be able to retain both, then isn't it possible that eth wales ...like exchanges and like the dev team are just using this opportunity to make more of a bundle.
best of both worlds...get back DAO money from HF eth.........and create fee etc from original chain
its a no brainer....why not support non fork eth too....all that etc is free. they could dump anytime or if it gains traction hold and make more.
is this project (Ethereum Classic) in relation with ETH ? i am confused please let us know the different between the two if not ?
Ethereum Classic is original ethereum before they did a centralized fork.
in other words.. its the leftover of an abandoned chain by the Dev team and its supporters.
You are still spamming the wrong thread.
This is for ETH
You have made your own uber censored North Korea-lookalike thread.
You should stick to it.
Haha, look at this example of censorship @bitpop is doing.
Are you really that scared?
http://imgur.com/a/hG0ue
is this project (Ethereum Classic) in relation with ETH ? i am confused please let us know the different between the two if not ?
There isn't any difference whatsoever. The ONLY difference is the price. Forked ETH is much more expensive than non-forked ETH. If you need ETH as a fuel for your smart contract needs the choice is obvious The ONLY reason ETH was forked is to bail out bad bets made in the DAO casino. Since I don't care about the DAO project I don't care who will benefit from $60M in eth at stake whether this amount will go to the forkers around Vitalik or to the person that exposed DAO weak point.
what is going on. as i understand it. and i am really not fit in the technical terms.
is it right with the decition to do the HF the devs and miners opened the door for the situation now. a chain that is splited in 2 at the moment. a smooth HF would have ended in one of the chains dieing real fast. but it didnt
and now there are 2 lines ? the comunity is asked to choose one with there money. the community that didnt have to do anything with the dao? but the dao guys are save now ?
am i right so far ? if not pls coccect me. its just a puting together of infos i got so far .....
is it right with the decition to do the HF the devs and miners opened the door for the situation now. a chain that is splited in 2 at the moment. a smooth HF would have ended in one of the chains dieing real fast. but it didnt
and now there are 2 lines ? the comunity is asked to choose one with there money. the community that didnt have to do anything with the dao? but the dao guys are save now ?
am i right so far ? if not pls coccect me. its just a puting together of infos i got so far .....
is this project (Ethereum Classic) in relation with ETH ? i am confused please let us know the different between the two if not ?
Ethereum Classic is original ethereum before they did a centralized fork.
In other words: it's a new altcoin without the backing of The Ethereum Team, without the backing of The Ethereum Foundation, and with their own tokens called ETC at exchanges.
They have their own thread too: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15702715
But for some reason mr.bitpop has decided to hang in this thread just to confuse people.
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