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Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

I mined it before it even hit the exchange. For me, it was quite profitable. I stopped mining it after 1000 other people started. lol. I'm not needed anymore. I did my part. I kept the chain alive long enough for it to be added to Polo. From there, it was up to the community to step in. Which, they did.

The chain only survived long enough for people like you to get free ETC because I (and about 10 - 20 others) mined it for profitability.




Do you actually think I care about DAPPS from ETH or ETC? lmao. I'll run my DAPPS in RISE for a millionth of the cost. lol. There are too many currencies making the same promise. Give me ETH for a dollar and I'm in. Oh wait, we already did. And I got out anyways. LOL
legendary
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Pro-fork trolls should create new theme for the forked ether titled something like 'Welcome to the Fork1 Beginning'. This board is for the original ethereum.
ETC  paying bagholder  ^
LOL you went from funny troll to stupid troll...lol

is the etc bag feelin heavy yet or are you buying more to average out hahhaha

legendary
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Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw
sr. member
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The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.

The real world where sometimes you don't get your way goes the same for you as it does me.

The "non-fork" vote obviously has more support than you guys are willing to admit to.

If the vote was done in a fair and democratic way then this chain wouldn't have survived long enough to get added to Poloniex in the first place.

ETC is literally the exact same coin that had a billion dollar market cap a week ago. With developers saying they are going to support it still. If you want to dump yours, then dump. None of us care. We'll just buy it and profit later. If you're so convinced that ETC isn't going to survive then stop spamming the thread whining about us. Go do something more productive. I know I am. lol

the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

are you stupid m8... forget the votes...
look at the price and hashrate....now compare them both to ETH and please tell me what you get

A golden opportunity to get in on Ethereum at below ICO price. Or to mine at a profitable rate.

A true immutable and decentralized currency that will help revolutionize the internet. Without compromising on its core values.

the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

Well, its quite clear now what the masses wanted.

ETH is clearly not losing traction.

Also its hilarious seeing all the whining now.. when they had soo much time to do it before the fork. But said nothing. Just check the history of the most active ETC-posters and u'll see.

Also its becomming clear that ETC is risky and needs a hardfork.
HOW IRONIC IS THAT? HAH...

As the Digix Team and Maker Team has announced:
We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.



This is also ridiculously ironic:

"Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum"

Except.. needing a hard fork.
And Bitpop is working hard at deleting posts and censoring as much as he can in the ETC-thread.


Edit:
Im sure investors will jump head first into that hive.... yeah, right?

Don't invest then? lol. It makes no difference. I've already made like 1000% profit on the tiny bit of BTC I spent on mining. I sold my ETH at a profit before the DAO fiasco even happened.

I've already said that I don't consider ETH or BTC to be the one. I have investments in dozens of coins. I like to diversify. You can be an ETH bagholder, I don't care. By the time they had compromised on their core values I was already gone. I only touched ETC because I know how profitability works in mining. If you knew you would have mined it too.
legendary
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Pro-fork trolls should create new theme for the forked ether titled something like 'Welcome to the Fork1 Beginning'. This board is for the original ethereum.
legendary
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frosty m8, you keep making one small error that i feel i must correct you on ...lol

its bitpoop...lolol
hero member
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the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

Well, its quite clear now what the masses wanted.

ETH is clearly not losing traction.

Also its hilarious seeing all the whining now.. when they had soo much time to do it before the fork. But said nothing. Just check the history of the most active ETC-posters and u'll see.

Also its becomming clear that ETC is risky and needs a hardfork.
HOW IRONIC IS THAT? HAH...

As the Digix Team and Maker Team has announced:
We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.



This is also ridiculously ironic:

"Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum"

Except.. needing a hard fork.
And Bitpop is working hard at deleting posts and censoring as much as he can in the ETC-thread.


Edit:
Im sure investors will jump head first into that hive.... yeah, right?
legendary
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the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

are you stupid m8... forget the votes...
look at the price and hashrate....now compare them both to ETH and please tell me what you get
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.
sr. member
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the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?
legendary
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The voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
This is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )
also fake volume and fake walls wont work for long...the price of etc MUST GO UP OR ELSE IT DIES...at current price miners are at a loss.

Heres the catch though...if it goes up in price you make us richer  Tongue



sr. member
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The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.

You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?

That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.

No, there is no contradiction. The community as a whole chose the proposed HF. That does not mean that every single person chose or was in favor of the HF. That isn't a requirement either. But if you're going to remain in the community you have to at least act as if you've accepted the decision.

What ETC has done is to ignore this. They've decided to not respect the choice of the community and create an altcoin. Which is fine in crypto. But what isn't fine is them running around spamming Ethereum threads with misinformation about Ethereum and their new altcoin.

Otoh it does show their lack of seriousness and will accelerate their decline into insignificance.

If you have a problem with someone spamming you should report it to moderators.

Part of the debate is what is Ethereum. It would be sort of weird to report it to the mods before these questions are laid to rest, or at least discussed.

The choice given was fork or not. A majority of the aforementioned groups chose the proposed HF, including F2Pool. I guess they found that they had to, as they themselves suggested. I am sure there are people who disagree with how "democratic" it was, but the existence of Ethereum Classic shows that there was a choice. And, ironically, they're the ones who have decided not to respect this choice.

You're contradicting yourself here. If there is a choice, and some choose one way and others choose another way - which part of this you're having a problem with?

That's how crypto forks work. Even a single dissenter with a CPU miner could keep the original chain alive. Should have thought about that BEFORE supporting a hard fork instead of expecting "respect" after the fact.

No, there is no contradiction. The community as a whole chose the proposed HF. That does not mean that every single person chose or was in favor of the HF. That isn't a requirement either. But if you're going to remain in the community you have to at least act as if you've accepted the decision.

What ETC has done is to ignore this. They've decided to not respect the choice of the community and create an altcoin. Which is fine in crypto. But what isn't fine is them running around spamming Ethereum threads with misinformation about Ethereum and their new altcoin.

Otoh it does show their lack of seriousness and will accelerate their decline into insignificance.

The community as a whole, except for all those people that were opposed to it.

But fuck them, right?

Welcome to the real world, buddy!


The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Is there a similar instance for the Eth client as opposed to the Geth client?

AFAIK the C++ version of eth doesn't support the hardfork so you can run the old version and use it with ETC but not with ETH.
legendary
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https://medium.com/the-coinbase-blog/ethereum-is-the-forefront-of-digital-currency-5300298f6c75#.x1bcdxj9v
Ethereum is the Forefront of Digital Currency
We have sat here for the last 3 years seeing only infrastructure apps like wallets and exchanges emerge on top of Bitcoin. Why is that?
My theory has been that the scripting language in Bitcoin — the piece of every Bitcoin transaction that lets you run a little software program along with it — is too restrictive.
Enter Ethereum....
What is very real, though, is the possibility that Ethereum blows past Bitcoin entirely.


BUY OR CRY....
Watch trolls lose $ as etc takes most of their btc and ETH pumps costing them even more as they panic buy back in.  Tongue




legendary
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Quote from: cjmoles linjavascript:void(0);k=topic=428589.msg15706465#msg15706465 date=1469473385
Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you use go,

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Geth 1.4.10 "Return of the ETH" is the go-ethereum team's DAO hard-fork implementation. It enables anyone to choose whether they would like to support the DAO hard-fork or oppose it, and take them to their blockchain of choice.

To support the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --support-dao-fork
To oppose the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --oppose-dao-fork

Is there a similar instance for the Eth client as opposed to the Geth client?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you install latest Mist (0.8.1 I think) you will be asked a question when you start it. Read carefully, answer appropriately and you'll be syncing to the chain that you choose.

Edit: once you do that you should double check the block count against a block explorer or a pool.
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Quote from: cjmoles linjavascript:void(0);k=topic=428589.msg15706465#msg15706465 date=1469473385
Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.

If you use go,

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Geth 1.4.10 "Return of the ETH" is the go-ethereum team's DAO hard-fork implementation. It enables anyone to choose whether they would like to support the DAO hard-fork or oppose it, and take them to their blockchain of choice.

To support the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --support-dao-fork
To oppose the DAO hard-fork, start Geth with --oppose-dao-fork
legendary
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Okay.  Due to all the recent drama I have not had time to keep up with all the new developments as I also have another life.  I do have a simple question and would very much appreciate a simple response.  Is there anything I should do to insure that my client is on the right fork?  I am running the Eth Client with Mist but I haven't opened them since this debacle began.
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Who is barry silbert??? Huh Huh
etc bagholder  Cheesy
first good laugh ive had this hour  Smiley
legendary
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Who is barry silbert??? Huh Huh
etc bagholder  Cheesy
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