[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 850.

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Quote from: becoin on July 22, 2016, 07:05:56 AM

Quote from: alienesb on July 22, 2016, 06:39:53 AM

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

A naive argument: National Government have little interest in Alts or BTC.

They will only take an interest, should be criminal enterprises be related to it or a anarchistic revolutionary projects be connected to it.

Politicians derive "kudos" from knocking over criminal enterprises and anarchistic revolutionary projects.

BTC and Alts are cleaner than the real economy,

Real crime is done in Fiat Currencies or visible commodities and anarchistic revolutionary projects are interested in weapons, visible commodities and ruling regions.

No "Kudos" for politicians, which makes you argument bizarre.

So, yes, the developers and others can build around Ethereum.

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Quote from: alienesb on July 22, 2016, 06:39:53 AM

Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

Lol at the advice. What's the point of building something related to ethereum if it can be hard forked by the ethereum central bankers?

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Lol at the rabble. You guys should try building something with all of your time and energy instead of always dumping on things.

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Quote from: bitpop on July 22, 2016, 06:24:56 AM

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Quote from: cryptoPrecise on July 21, 2016, 10:19:40 PM

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

We have a strong community https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-1559630

Simply rule of life: the development team are the one's who govern and ensure progress occurs and when problems happen they get repaired quickly and act on useful feedback from their ANNs.

You follow the development team, because they are the people who add value to the ALT Coin.

Those trying to mine obsolete forks, have no development team and their Alt Coins have no value added prospects.

You can mine obsolete forks, but expect to be crying over it in 12 months time.

But, you don't have to follow my advice on that Grin

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 22, 2016, 06:19:51 AM

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Quote from: cryptoPrecise on July 21, 2016, 10:19:40 PM

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

We have a strong community https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-1559630

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Quote from: cryptoPrecise on July 21, 2016, 10:19:40 PM

So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?

In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

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Vitalik is not being honest and closing this thread

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@Perrylfor

lets find a new name for this after fork ether
tyranether ?
banksterether?
bailoutether?

Grin

ok serious what does this mean for the future?
if ether would become the world computer it would be very bad haveing such a low ethic ruling. tyrany of the welth. gosh that would be bad.
becouse they say it was a consensus of all in the comunity .
i dont think so.
if you have a million ether and each counts in the vote as one voice wow thats no demogracy
and i guess slockit guys and vitalic did vote with there ether wouldnt them have had 90% of votes?
i guess one wallet one voice would have been democratic.

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Quote from: frostminer on July 22, 2016, 04:03:43 AM

This thread belongs to Ethereum and the dev team.
Thats why this is the main thread.

I saw multiple tries on new threads yesterday ... i guess it hurts that people ignore the feeble cries.

I do not see Vitalik or other developers post here. It seems they use the Etheurm forum or the reddit more.

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Quote from: frostminer on July 22, 2016, 04:03:43 AM

This thread belongs to Ethereum and the dev team.
Thats why this is the main thread.

I saw multiple tries on new threads yesterday ... i guess it hurts that people ignore the feeble cries.

The new thread isn't being ignored at all. You should view it, there doesn't appear to be any crying there.

It can be the main thread, but, as long as it is, there will be people here for and against it. Feel free to keep whining about us being here, but I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore.

I'll reply to you when you say something interesting, until then, your feeble cries about us being here will be ignored. Have a nice day.

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Quote from: Perryl on July 22, 2016, 03:58:40 AM

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Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Nice read, thanks.

I liked these quotes the most.

"Or, in the language of another world, the Ethereum central bank has directly recapitalized the DAO commercial bank by monetizing its debts."

"The Ethereum community has agreed to a change that makes their system less trustworthy than a conventional financial system. For a technology that aims to disrupt conventional financial systems, that is not clever."

"bailouts were – and probably still are – inevitable. Refusing to bail them out would be a major breach of faith"

"Ethereum is only immutable because Buterin says it is. Until he changes his mind. Which he inevitably will, next time there is a major loss. His investors will expect him to, since – y’know – the system is still “in development”. And he will agree, since – y’know – the community is in charge."

Crazy, it's like she knows a thing or two about currency.

It already happened. The HF is done with. If you really feel the need to (continuously) cry over it, then please start a new thread. Otherwise, how about we move on to working toward the same goals the community had for a month ago for Ethereum. Cool

hmm this is still a free forum where every one can post opinions if you dont like them then you go
and for the thread well you have to live with critic. there is not just claping hands for the hf
and this is not a promotion thread, if newly interested people will come here and get informations about what the ether is they should find all infos not just the ones you like to select and polish.

LOL, are you still here crying?
How many pages of emo will we have to see?

Soooo.. lemme guess. You shorted ETH and faceplanted?
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hmm would be nice to defame all critics as failed investors who cry now? isnt it?
no i was a ether beliver . got my ether with the crowd sale. believed in it. was a holder. saw with shock what the dao did .befor the attacker. hoped for ether to stay independent. befor the crowdsale i read on the ethereum page: invest but be aware its not save you might lose all.
when i saw you really do this hf, i sold them. the ether after the hf is not what it was supoosed to be.

and you seem to close your eyes. for the greater pofit?

So.. if you sold them and got out. What the f**k is this whining about?

At this point it just looks like you have sand in your vagina

are you serious? such a sexistic post ? is that all you can say? wow thought it cant get lower but you proof it does.

Its a well known expression.
You beeing so emo and sensitive i should have sensed that "sand under your foreskin" would be better. So sorry.... Roll Eyes

Or maybe you could learn how to speak to people in general. If you cannot respect people, you deserve none yourself.

That went out the window after pages of useless whining.
Move to another thread.

Or you could just stop whining about us being here. We have no reason to move to another thread. We're talking about ETH.

If this thread was closed then we'd be on the Ethereum Classic thread. You would then have to create a new thread for your new centralized version of Ethereum. mETH (mutable Ether) or ETHHF (Ether Hard Fork) or I guess you should go with ETH-DAOFORK1. Whatever works for you guys, I suppose.