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Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 853. (Read 2007099 times)

legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
This thread needs to be given to ethc. Eth-hf needs a new thread.

Meh..
The few thief-friends can go somewhere else and have their own party.

Thanks, join my petition https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/petition-change-owner-of-ethereum-thread-1559622

The thread is now misleading as the the original ethereum is now called ETHC which retains being immutable.

ETH-HF must create a new announcement with new ethos and current thread given to ETHC. Another possibility is locking the thread since that version of ethereum no longer exists.

You misunderstood.

The hacker-thief-supporters which are not the majority, but seemingly a tiny tiny minority paying to look bigger.

YOU and those supporters should go somewhere else.

This thread is for the main project of ETH... and as voted, the thief is not part of it.



You don't seem to understand as well.. Its not a "thief" - it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage.

The DAO contract was bugged - not ETH and IMHO a rollback / hardfork because a bugged contract should absolutely NOT be possible in a modern, decentralized crypto currency. However - they forked it anyway which is the right decision for some people and the wrong decision for others, you probably never get it right for everyone.


"it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage." - which makes him a thief.

Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.
i feel so betrayed by ether . was a suporter from the beginning. promises just empty promises..........
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
Where is the bloody mETH/eTHC pair? Why does it take so long and to which coin does this thread actually belong to now? Fuckin' pussy-footing is incredible around here.

The herping and derping are hilarious!  Are you not entertained?

Bitcoin runs on drama, Ethereum runs on controversy.

What happens when, say, Coinbase GDAX customers demand access to their eTHC?

Does Coinbase pay out on one chain based on their whims?

The safest, least liability creating approach is to treat one of them as a spin-off, where existing shareholders get shares in the new company on a 1 to 1 basis.

The optimally profitable strategy for an exchange is to offer the pair and profit from additional volume/volatility/derivatives.

If you have *ETH on an exchange that supports the hard fork, let them know they may either provide the immutable coins you originally purchased or get ready to talk to thier lawyer(s).

And that argument may cuts both ways, for exchanges that *don't* support the hard fork.   Grin

Which exchanges didnt go with the fork?
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Where is the bloody mETH/eTHC pair? Why does it take so long and to which coin does this thread actually belong to now? Fuckin' pussy-footing is incredible around here.

The herping and derping are hilarious!  Are you not entertained?

Bitcoin runs on drama, Ethereum runs on controversy.

What happens when, say, Coinbase GDAX customers demand access to their eTHC?

Does Coinbase pay out on one chain based on their whims?

The safest, least liability creating approach is to treat one of them as a spin-off, where existing shareholders get shares in the new company on a 1 to 1 basis.

The optimally profitable strategy for an exchange is to offer the pair and profit from additional volume/volatility/derivatives.

If you have *ETH on an exchange that supports the hard fork, let them know they may either provide the immutable coins you originally purchased or get ready to talk to thier lawyer(s).

And that argument may cuts both ways, for exchanges that *don't* support the hard fork.   Grin
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
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Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh

Did you even understand my point? You're arguing with me but agreeing with me in the same post. Try understanding my point.
legendary
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Merit: 1013
If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?
hero member
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Merit: 505


Jeeezes.

The train has left and aint comming back.
Stop fucking whining and accept it.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
Etherum classic start today.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1021
2009 Alea iacta est
more news


\Etherindex LLC Files SEC Prospectus for First Ether-Based ETF

http://www.ethereum.net/news/spotlight/etherindex-llc-files-sec-prospectus-for-first-ether-based-etf







newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
This coins should be renamed to "ImperatorCoin" or "DictatorCoin"

I think there could be consensus for "Vitalikum" Smiley
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505


AWESOME news!!

https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/756156926749122560



This must suck so hard for BTC Cheesy

Not really. You must be new around here. Everybody knows that Coinbase is garbage. lol.

Don't get me wrong, it's great to be added in more exchanges. Good for Eth, etc, but Coinbase is a terrible exchange.



For me its a great place to withdraw coins .. one step less to walk without going by btc.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250


AWESOME news!!

https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/756156926749122560



This must suck so hard for BTC Cheesy

Not really. You must be new around here. Everybody knows that Coinbase is garbage. lol.

Don't get me wrong, it's great to be added in more exchanges. Good for Eth, etc, but Coinbase is a terrible exchange.

hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505


AWESOME news!!

https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/756156926749122560



This must suck so hard for BTC Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 550
Merit: 500
This coins should be renamed to "ImperatorCoin" or "DictatorCoin"
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1021
2009 Alea iacta est
worth read



Rejecting Today’s Hard Fork, the Ethereum Classic Project Continues on the Original Chain: Here's Why

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808


very well said

i agree 100%





newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Where is the bloody mETH/eTHC pair? Why does it take so long and to which coin does this thread actually belong to now? Fuckin' pussy-footing is incredible around here.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Any exchange offering ether forked/ether classic trading pair? 99% of ether fans don't really care about smart contracts. What they do care is pump/dump opportunities and volatility. Forked/Classic ether pair would be excellent offer for such a crowd.

Yeah I really hope bittrex steps up to the plate
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
Any exchange offering ether forked/ether classic trading pair? 99% of ether fans don't really care about smart contracts. What they do care is pump/dump opportunities and volatility. Forked/Classic ether pair would be excellent offer for such a crowd.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
A pump and dump based on hype and false promises means nothing.

Vitalik sold immutable tokens and now the word has been wiped clean. This is false advertising, deceptive and bait and switch. Ethereum Classic believes in the original intent.

The repeated use of childish appeals to popularity ("nobody likes ETH Classic, neener-neener") to justify this emergent politicized governance structure do more harm than the DAO hacker ever could.

OTOH, we always knew or should have known ETH is functionally VitalikCoin.

Nevertheless, the self-serving hypocrisy burns with the fire of a hundred supervolcanoes:

If you don't want a Bitcoin hard fork to roll back FBI, MtGox, and Pirate40 (etc) thefts, you must be SUPPORTING BITCOIN THIEVES!

That's the only logically consistent position for mETH (mutable ETH) heads to take.

Of course they don't care about silly academic issues like mutability; they are here only for the pump and dump fiat profits.

Look how gleefully they trade liberty for security; see how scornfully they dismiss the idea they don't deserve, nor will achieve, either.

Admission to VB's decentralization theater is paid in mutable tokens.

Those who deserved to lose money are being reimbursed with Helicopter Vitalik's freshly-printed monopoly money; the stench of moral hazard hangs thick in the air, choking out the brief whiff of ETH's former promise.


Only systems that are structurally incompatible with fraud don't suffer from the overhang of potential fraud.

What VB claimed to be selling: immutable tokens

What VB actually sold us: trivially mutable tokens

The invisible hand, wielding smooth's razor, begins its grisly work, cutting capitol allocation from where it is treated arbitrarily and moving it to places where the Code Is Law ethos is respected as more than just a marketing slogan.

How long until Chancellor Butarin authorizes a second round of bailouts?

It's now a matter of when, not if.  The moral overhang has been set in stone.

As of now, it's impossible to refute VB's demonstration of ETH's structural compatibility with fraud.

Paraphrasing Ben Franklin like a boss.

Don't mind me, just a low activity guy that liked what you said. Nothing to see here.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
A pump and dump based on hype and false promises means nothing.

Vitalik sold immutable tokens and now the word has been wiped clean. This is false advertising, deceptive and bait and switch. Ethereum Classic believes in the original intent.

The repeated use of childish appeals to popularity ("nobody likes ETH Classic, neener-neener") to justify this emergent politicized governance structure do more harm than the DAO hacker ever could.

OTOH, we always knew or should have known ETH is functionally VitalikCoin.

Nevertheless, the self-serving hypocrisy burns with the fire of a hundred supervolcanoes:

If you don't want a Bitcoin hard fork to roll back FBI, MtGox, and Pirate40 (etc) thefts, you must be SUPPORTING BITCOIN THIEVES!

That's the only logically consistent position for mETH (mutable ETH) heads to take.

Of course they don't care about silly academic issues like mutability; they are here only for the pump and dump fiat profits.

Look how gleefully they trade liberty for security; see how scornfully they dismiss the idea they don't deserve, nor will achieve, either.

Admission to VB's decentralization theater is paid in mutable tokens.

Those who deserved to lose money are being reimbursed with Helicopter Vitalik's freshly-printed monopoly money; the stench of moral hazard hangs thick in the air, choking out the brief whiff of ETH's former promise.


Only systems that are structurally incompatible with fraud don't suffer from the overhang of potential fraud.

What VB claimed to be selling: immutable tokens

What VB actually sold us: trivially mutable tokens

The invisible hand, wielding smooth's razor, begins its grisly work, cutting capitol allocation from where it is treated arbitrarily and moving it to places where the Code Is Law ethos is respected as more than just a marketing slogan.

How long until Chancellor Butarin authorizes a second round of bailouts?

It's now a matter of when, not if.  The moral overhang has been set in stone.

As of now, it's impossible to refute VB's demonstration of ETH's structural compatibility with fraud.
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