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hero member
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Tell Me What A Man Is Without Pride .
Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.

why? what is the law that he/she broke?
I don't think it's so sue him of something...
What do you know   Cheesy ?  Thieve hacker should be put in jail Grin.
He is not a thief. Come on they made so much money from the fake pumps till now,simply accept it.
hero member
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Does anyone know ETH hashrate for nVIDIA 1070 and AMD RX 480 at the Windows?
sr. member
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Bitrated user: Foex.
I dont know whether this has been answered yet. Does anyone know the date of ETH forking?
hero member
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.

why? what is the law that he/she broke?
I don't think it's so sue him of something...
What do you know   Cheesy ?  Thieve hacker should be put in jail Grin.
legendary
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The Ether Review #34 – Vinay Gupta on Rethinking Blockchain Use Cases

https://www.etherreview.info/2016/07/08/234/



MakerDAO Founder Claims “Absolutely Zero” Obligation to DAO Investors In Interview

http://bitcoinist.net/makerdao-founder-claims-absolutely-zero-obligation-dao-investors-interview/







But what is the sense of the DAO if there are no obligation to investor. Is it worthless as investment. For what does it serve?

I think what the MakerDAO founder meant was the Ethereum community. He was asked "How much responsibility does the Ethereum community have to those staked in the DAO?". To which he answered “Absolutely Zero.”

But he seems biased to the hard fork. It's maybe because he has his own project on Ethereum and is protecting his interests. Can't blame him.
legendary
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http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/07/11/decentralized-escape-hatches-for-smart-contracts/

one needs to read vitaliks asnwer

i think if we want it decent. there will be no way of " put a little coins in, lean back and get rich" one has to be involved be "responsible" and act if necesary .
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The Ether Review #34 – Vinay Gupta on Rethinking Blockchain Use Cases

https://www.etherreview.info/2016/07/08/234/



MakerDAO Founder Claims “Absolutely Zero” Obligation to DAO Investors In Interview

http://bitcoinist.net/makerdao-founder-claims-absolutely-zero-obligation-dao-investors-interview/







But what is the sense of the DAO if there are no obligation to investor. Is it worthless as investment. For what does it serve?
newbie
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The Ether Review #34 – Vinay Gupta on Rethinking Blockchain Use Cases

https://www.etherreview.info/2016/07/08/234/



MakerDAO Founder Claims “Absolutely Zero” Obligation to DAO Investors In Interview

http://bitcoinist.net/makerdao-founder-claims-absolutely-zero-obligation-dao-investors-interview/


I like it:

"Same as we have always been doing, obsessing about security at every step of the design and implementation process. We knew very early that security was going to be the most important factor and have been building our entire stack around that maxim from the start."
legendary
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2009 Alea iacta est
The Ether Review #34 – Vinay Gupta on Rethinking Blockchain Use Cases

https://www.etherreview.info/2016/07/08/234/



MakerDAO Founder Claims “Absolutely Zero” Obligation to DAO Investors In Interview

http://bitcoinist.net/makerdao-founder-claims-absolutely-zero-obligation-dao-investors-interview/





newbie
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.

why? what is the law that he/she broke?
I don't think it's so sue him of something...
full member
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?

I think the hacker will not talk too much. If he exposes himself, the law enforcement will find him and he will be in jail.
legendary
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Merit: 1233
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.
We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?

He did not say the Ethereum is the same as bitcoin. He just say the Etherum will survive the crisis like bitcoin did in the past.
It is a stupid statement. How will ethereum survive just like bitcoin did if it has weaknesses that bitcoin doesn't have?
legendary
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I wanted to believe [...]


You are so cute kiddo.

[your favorite kitten meme here]
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.


 Grin

Avoiding a trainwreck, I sold my ~10 free ETH trading profits and donated the proceeds to Monero's dev fund.

I wanted to believe, but this is the coup de grace:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4s87vq/aquentin_describes_15_million_in_ether_holders_as/d57fdgf

Quote from: pb1x 8 points 5 hours ago

If they do go ahead with the bailout, they are going to get the worst of both worlds: the uncaring brutality of a blockchain with the petty arbitrariness of a system controlled by people instead of math

I agree that the marketing they are using now looks wrong. Someone tried to adjust it on their open source web page repository but they won't allow that marketing to be changed, they rejected the pull requests updating it

If people value bailouts, they will certainly not value bailouts made arbitrarily, with the appearance of collusion and support of the Ethereum developers, who were also invested in the DAO and went against the espoused principles you mentioned to make an exception in this case.

Many people are used to bankers and governments having a tight relationship that is used to enrich themselves, so maybe they want to replicate that experience in a crypto-currency. Personally I think that corruption itself will lead to eventual failure.


Sorry Nick, but ETH and (by voluntary association) DAO are now the too-much/too-soon Webvan of smart contracts.   Embarrassed
legendary
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Yes, I am looking for the latest news on the hacking incident also. There seems to be none. Would it be possible for the hacker to be talking and discussing terms with Vitalik?
sr. member
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BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.
We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?

He did not say the Ethereum is the same as bitcoin. He just say the Etherum will survive the crisis like bitcoin did in the past.
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.
We have heard so many times from you how ETH is different from BTC. Now you say ETH is just like BTC. Why this change?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
ancap
Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.
lol, i did almost fall asleep

I have been putting my coins into cold storage.
I wont be trading much this week, as i expect alot of craziness incoming. The fork and after reading yesterdays post from Stephan, it made me think alot.
Also if the fork happens, (which im all for) i would expect at least 10% of ETH being dumped from DAO and we could flash crash down ( how much i think, i cant say ,lol )
I have placed orders lower and will wait to see if they get filled before deciding my next move.
Once this all blows over ETH will be back over $20 in no time.
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.
Which Tual message you're talking about?
sr. member
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.

It is better to wait after the hard fork to see the effects of hard fork. If there is good sentiment, then we can buy.
legendary
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Volume dropping on poloniex for eth.Is there any latest news causing this apart from DAO hacking incident?

Mrpumperus just fell asleep on the trading desk. Volume will be up when he's back at work.
lol, i did almost fall asleep

I have been putting my coins into cold storage.
I wont be trading much this week, as i expect alot of craziness incoming. The fork and after reading yesterdays post from Stephan, it made me think alot.
Also if the fork happens, (which im all for) i would expect at least 10% of ETH being dumped from DAO and we could flash crash down ( how much i think, i cant say ,lol )
I have placed orders lower and will wait to see if they get filled before deciding my next move.
Once this all blows over ETH will be back over $20 in no time.
BTC died many times to become stronger...ETH might have to do the same.
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