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Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 11:07:36 AM

Okay, I've read a few posts back now and it seems you're willing to give to original dev 38k coins, right? For what if I may ask?

No i dont. This 38k was used to pay miners in the first pool (owned by the dev). The pool crashed. So we got no coins from it. So he paid us (the miners) with those 38k (as far as i can track it down).

In my case (with 580khas and only 2 hours of mining) it was not much. But some miners must have had many thousends of coins. There where a lot of miners. And bounties like 500 e-tok for 1 wallet etc. where paid from it.

All those coins where being used and mabey sold to other people. If we delete those. A lot of people whould lose there coins. I think that would be very bad. People suddenly loosing coins they earned or bought. There would be no trust in the coin anymore.

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Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 11:07:36 AM

Okay, I've read a few posts back now and it seems you're willing to give to original dev 38k coins, right? For what if I may ask?

How you can prevent it?

Btw, I still believe in dev

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Okay, I've read a few posts back now and it seems you're willing to give to original dev 38k coins, right? For what if I may ask?

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Quote from: rznag on January 24, 2014, 11:04:33 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: rznag on January 24, 2014, 11:01:31 AM

I wouldn`t pay for the coinedup trades too. In my eyes it was there own fault. If i trade something i inform myself before i do so.
Therefore it`s their own risk. And if someone traded intentionally he knew the risk that this trades could be worthless.
So they shouldn`t be rewarded for that.
And if coinedup decides not to respond i don`t think they should get coins either. They must be willing to give us the numbers from their database if they want to get a compensation.

Well :-) its not like we are going to pay everyone. But maybe coinedup want some making up to do. You dont know

Better use the coins to get website, wallets etc

We should write them another email, perhaps mine went into their spam folder. But we can`t wait weeks for them to respond.
If they don`t respond we have to act without them.

Well first i hope we can get a working coin :-) Lets wait for that news first Grin

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: rznag on January 24, 2014, 11:01:31 AM

I wouldn`t pay for the coinedup trades too. In my eyes it was there own fault. If i trade something i inform myself before i do so.
Therefore it`s their own risk. And if someone traded intentionally he knew the risk that this trades could be worthless.
So they shouldn`t be rewarded for that.
And if coinedup decides not to respond i don`t think they should get coins either. They must be willing to give us the numbers from their database if they want to get a compensation.

Well :-) its not like we are going to pay everyone. But maybe coinedup want some making up to do. You dont know

Better use the coins to get website, wallets etc

We should write them another email, perhaps mine went into their spam folder. But we can`t wait weeks for them to respond.
If they don`t respond we have to act without them.

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Need to go. Will be back later. I keep you all informed Grin

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Quote from: rznag on January 24, 2014, 11:01:31 AM

I wouldn`t pay for the coinedup trades too. In my eyes it was there own fault. If i trade something i inform myself before i do so.
Therefore it`s their own risk. And if someone traded intentionally he knew the risk that this trades could be worthless.
So they shouldn`t be rewarded for that.
And if coinedup decides not to respond i don`t think they should get coins either. They must be willing to give us the numbers from their database if they want to get a compensation.

Well :-) its not like we are going to pay everyone. But maybe coinedup want some making up to do. You dont know

Better use the coins to get website, wallets etc

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I wouldn`t pay for the coinedup trades too. In my eyes it was there own fault. If i trade something i inform myself before i do so.
Therefore it`s their own risk. And if someone traded intentionally he knew the risk that this trades could be worthless.
So they shouldn`t be rewarded for that.
And if coinedup decides not to respond i don`t think they should get coins either. They must be willing to give us the numbers from their database if they want to get a compensation.

We should write them another email, perhaps mine went into their spam folder. But we can`t wait weeks for them to respond.

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Quote from: thekekk on January 24, 2014, 10:53:19 AM

you mean pay 3k coins on coinedup for those who bought coins for 0.00005 per coin? and they knew there was something wrong?

We have to see how that evolves. But change is also some honest transaction where made right after the fork. We wont make a big bank. Max 8000 coins. From that we can pay some debts. And do promotion work.

Adresses of the bank will be public. And bank will be split. So not 1 person has it all.

Besides that we need to do our job as a community. Donations etc. But always better then me, solidchange, dev or someone else sitting on 10.000, 20.000, 30.000, ......... coins Tongue

I dont like that.

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:41:52 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:37:58 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:26:24 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Yeh well true. But this is a unprecedented situation. Some coins had no dev after birth or some leaved. We had a very active dev, with a big bank/pre mine and owner of website(s) after a bad fork he seems to have left.

You can not take over from day 1. But on the otherhand there is not much trust left. No team at all behind e-token. Only 1 dev who seems to be online but is not fixing or communicating anymore.

Next week we will have a coin again. It must happen Cheesy

edit only 4 days. He was making the fork on monday.

Oh... yes, good you mentioned that, there was the "bank". How can a fork prevent the original dev from dumping his "bank"? Seems there needs to be a totally new chain starting from block 1, correct? Or is there any other solution?

We tought of that. The idea is to fork out 100.000 coins that seems not to have been used for payments to other people. Then 38.000 coins from block 1 would remain. But we know a lot of it was spend to early miners(after pool crash) and bounties/give aways. I could track my give aways coins back to this 38k.

So the original dev would for sure have much more coins than i do. But not so much he can crash the coin complete (in case he has bad intensions. I still find it hard too believe).

you mean pay 3k coins on coinedup for those who bought coins for 0.00005 per coin? and they knew there was something wrong?

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:41:52 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:37:58 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:26:24 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Yeh well true. But this is a unprecedented situation. Some coins had no dev after birth or some leaved. We had a very active dev, with a big bank/pre mine and owner of website(s) after a bad fork he seems to have left.

You can not take over from day 1. But on the otherhand there is not much trust left. No team at all behind e-token. Only 1 dev who seems to be online but is not fixing or communicating anymore.

Next week we will have a coin again. It must happen Cheesy

edit only 4 days. He was making the fork on monday.

Oh... yes, good you mentioned that, there was the "bank". How can a fork prevent the original dev from dumping his "bank"? Seems there needs to be a totally new chain starting from block 1, correct? Or is there any other solution?

We tought of that. The idea is to fork out 100.000 coins that seems not to have been used for payments to other people. Then 38.000 coins from block 1 would remain. But we know a lot of it was spend to early miners(after pool crash) and bounties/give aways. I could track my give aways coins back to this 38k.

So the original dev would for sure have much more coins than i do. But not so much he can crash the coin complete (in case he has bad intensions. I still find it hard too believe).

So you're really considering donating 38k coins to our beloved Mogui, who drove us into this disaster? In my humbly opinion he does not deserve any single coin.

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Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:37:58 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:26:24 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Yeh well true. But this is a unprecedented situation. Some coins had no dev after birth or some leaved. We had a very active dev, with a big bank/pre mine and owner of website(s) after a bad fork he seems to have left.

You can not take over from day 1. But on the otherhand there is not much trust left. No team at all behind e-token. Only 1 dev who seems to be online but is not fixing or communicating anymore.

Next week we will have a coin again. It must happen Cheesy

edit only 4 days. He was making the fork on monday.

Oh... yes, good you mentioned that, there was the "bank". How can a fork prevent the original dev from dumping his "bank"? Seems there needs to be a totally new chain starting from block 1, correct? Or is there any other solution?

We tought of that. The idea is to fork out 100.000 coins that seems not to have been used for payments to other people. Then 38.000 coins from block 1 would remain. But we know a lot of it was spend to early miners(after pool crash) and bounties/give aways. I could track my give aways coins back to this 38k.

So the original dev would for sure have much more coins than i do. But not so much he can crash the coin complete (in case he has bad intensions. I still find it hard too believe).

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:26:24 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Yeh well true. But this is a unprecedented situation. Some coins had no dev after birth or some leaved. We had a very active dev, with a big bank/pre mine and owner of website(s) after a bad fork he seems to have left.

You can not take over from day 1. But on the otherhand there is not much trust left. No team at all behind e-token. Only 1 dev who seems to be online but is not fixing or communicating anymore.

Next week we will have a coin again. It must happen Cheesy

edit only 4 days. He was making the fork on monday.

Oh... yes, good you mentioned that, there was the "bank". How can a fork prevent the original dev from dumping his "bank"? Seems there needs to be a totally new chain starting from block 1, correct? Or is there any other solution?

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Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Yeh well true. But this is a unprecedented situation. Some coins had no dev after birth or some leaved. We had a very active dev, with a big bank/pre mine and owner of website(s) after a bad fork he seems to have left.

You can not take over from day 1. But on the otherhand there is not much trust left. No team at all behind e-token. Only 1 dev who seems to be online but is not fixing or communicating anymore.

Next week we will have a coin again. It must happen Cheesy

edit only 4 days. He was making the fork on monday.

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Quote from: Last1212 on January 24, 2014, 10:24:00 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

How can it lose trust? No one can sell or buy. No one leave us till fork Cheesy

Hahaha.... true words.

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Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

How can it lose trust? No one can sell or buy. No one leave us till fork Cheesy

simplemind

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

How long is the dev away now? 5 days? Or was it 6?

The coin is loosing reputation. The longer it takes to fork the harder it will be to regain trust.

Mjollnir

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Activity: 182

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http://virtualcurrenciesnews.com/

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 10:07:41 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

True. But hey what can you expect. Some want to wait till monday, others till next friday and some want it yesterday.

Solidchange and i did a lot of informing. Someone else put up a vote. So at least we had a base for a decision. We wanted to fork yesterday ;-) but well we do it all together. So we waited for the vote till it ended. That was 5 hours or so ago.

Now its time for the dev. Its almost weekend so lets hope he can get some work done.

simplemind

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Activity: 84

Merit: 10

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 24, 2014, 09:39:19 AM

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

You're right, there is some progress, but no results.

Mjollnir

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Activity: 182

Merit: 100

http://virtualcurrenciesnews.com/

Quote from: simplemind on January 24, 2014, 09:23:44 AM

Hmmm... still no progress here.

Just talking and talking. I personally don't think original dev will come back. Anyone should take a heart and just fork it - on which way whatsoever.

You have to read just a little futher back then. We asked a dev to do it. I am waiting when he is ready.

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