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BoeserKeller

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Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:48:46 PM

Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 08:38:42 PM

Coinedup is important, but it`s more important to roll back to a point where no bug was present.

more important? Huh

think again.... before talking this much...

there are a lot of not bugged coins out there, some have 0 premine... but people mine them 1-2h and forget...

a coin is nothing without exchange...

there is nothing important than making it tradable again...

There is no point in trading something worthless ...
So I better have something valuable that is gonna be traded again in some time

mycointr

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Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 08:38:42 PM

Coinedup is important, but it`s more important to roll back to a point where no bug was present.

more important? Huh

think again.... before talking this much...

there are a lot of not bugged coins out there, some have 0 premine... but people mine them 1-2h and forget...

a coin is nothing without exchange...

there is nothing important than making it tradable again...

BoeserKeller

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I was referring to the bugged new client, not the old client. And the new client being the reason to reset to the fork-block

suncoastbuddy

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 08:29:10 PM

The moment the fork happened, the client was bugged. This bug caused the problem, so we need to roll back to the point where the bug was not present yet. Easy as that.

Was coinedup definitely on the new fork ? If not, everything would be ok if we rolled back to the point where the fork happened - sellers have lost their etoken and buyers could cash out their etoken. We might want to ask the guys at coinedup on which fork they were.

coinedup was definitely on the new fork and some of those new coins have already been sold apparently (from what people have said)

technically the original client wasn't bugged, it had a 5000 odd block difficulty retarget which became very hard after hashes decreased and it was loosing more and more support after that because difficulty was at 8 for a long time with still a lot of block to mine before retarget. That is why the dev did a hard fork with a new difficulty retarget... which unfortunately turned out to be bugged and was stuck at .000002 or something so blocks were flying by. If people had stopped mining at this point it would be easy. But greed got the better of some people and they continued to mine (a lot very quickly) and continued to trade them on coinedup

I hope my explanation makes sense.

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Coinedup is important, but it`s more important to roll back to a point where no bug was present.

mycointr

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Quote from: Last1212 on January 21, 2014, 10:32:10 AM

I will post proof in 1 min
http://i.imgur.com/vKSfASC.png
http://i.imgur.com/osT8UKo.png

CANCEL BUY OFFERS AND DON"T SELL eTOKs

there are coins from forked chain inside coinedup and you think to roll back to earlier point...

coinedup is not important? Huh

nice.... good luck

BoeserKeller

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The moment the fork happened, the client was bugged. This bug caused the problem, so we need to roll back to the point where the bug was not present yet. Easy as that.

Was coinedup definitely on the new fork ? If not, everything would be ok if we rolled back to the point where the fork happened - sellers have lost their etoken and buyers could cash out their etoken. We might want to ask the guys at coinedup on which fork they were.

rznag

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Quote from: badam on January 22, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

Quote from: Solidchance on January 22, 2014, 08:08:15 PM

Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

Exactly its almost gonna be easier to start fresh with a new coin

In my oppinion coinedup isnt that important. There are bigger exchanges and by excluding premine we have chance to approach cryptsy, and nowadays there are more and more smaller exchanges where you can get accepted easier and working way better than coinedup

+1 i think the same.
In my eyes we need a rollback to where the fork happened.
Better to have some coinedup transactions messed up than having 100000 or more coins of the new chain already mined.
From fork to when coinedup closed was 5h or more. Every second a block was found. That is lots of coins, probably more than the premine.

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Quote from: badam on January 22, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

Quote from: Solidchance on January 22, 2014, 08:08:15 PM

Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

Exactly its almost gonna be easier to start fresh with a new coin

In my oppinion coinedup isnt that important. There are bigger exchanges and by excluding premine we have chance to approach cryptsy, and nowadays there are more and more smaller exchanges where you can get accepted easier and working way better than coinedup

I don't think having any exchange off side is a good idea

badam

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Quote from: Solidchance on January 22, 2014, 08:08:15 PM

Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

Exactly its almost gonna be easier to start fresh with a new coin

In my oppinion coinedup isnt that important. There are bigger exchanges and by excluding premine we have chance to approach cryptsy, and nowadays there are more and more smaller exchanges where you can get accepted easier and working way better than coinedup

adir77

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Quote from: badam on January 22, 2014, 08:01:11 PM

The fork has a bug in it because difficulty decreased and now it is stuck at 0.00024. We need a new fork from block 42000 or so

Is it possible that the difficulty down because it was a little diggers (no Windows Wallet)?

although I think you're right and was (or is) a bug in the software. I did not read the whole thread

Sorry.

Best Regards.

Solidchance

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Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

Exactly its almost gonna be easier to start fresh with a new coin

rznag

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Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

But at that point some people mined so much on the new chain as we all together on the old. Every second a block was found.

simplemind

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Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 08:03:24 PM

First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

Wise words...

mycointr

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First u need to think..... think a lot.... not to talk a lot!
you need to communicate with exchanges before doing something..

in my opinion there is only one way that may resurrect this coin..

if you fork back to previous fork point, you will ruin everything... this coin will be dead, FOREVER...

some of the coins from forked chain are inside coinedup accounts-wallets..
do you think coinedup will try to roll back - separate coins that are deposited-traded from forked chain?
think again...
they will prefer not to open this coin to exchange again...
and in that situation no other serious exchange will accept this coin again..

if there is a second chance left for this coin.....

it can only with rolling back to the point coinedup took out coin from exchange and closed withdraw-deposit...
that could prevent coinedup transactions to mess up and they may think to open it to exchange again if things get fixed..

badam

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Quote from: zsnorbi on January 22, 2014, 07:45:00 PM

Quote from: simplemind on January 22, 2014, 07:41:22 PM

Quote from: suncoastbuddy on January 22, 2014, 07:37:53 PM

Quote from: simplemind on January 22, 2014, 07:16:11 PM

Quote from: titos99 on January 22, 2014, 06:43:18 PM

Quote from: simplemind on January 22, 2014, 04:52:44 PM

How about waiting till june? What do you think?

+1
No sign from dev for 2 days now,what the hell should we wait for?
we must act and act quickly..

Quickly like in the next 336 hours, right?

Solidchance is in the process of organizing a take over if the dev doesn't show soon. He has already spoken to a dev that would be willing to help etoken out. Solidchance is at work at the moment but will be back on the forum as soon as possible and details of his ideas can be discussed with him.

Excellent! Seems like we have a manager. Now only marketeer and developer missing.

For developing you should ask axio or murkanovic(he found and corrected the bug in the fork)

I agree that we should ask murkanovic axio is already having xivra and murkanovic was who found and corrected the bug in fork

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Quote from: Solidchance on January 22, 2014, 07:51:05 PM

Also if we keep the same name the OP owns this thread and the website,

We can always create a takeover thread like diamondcoin did and Mjollnir purchased e-token.info and someone has offered to host it

simplemind

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Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 07:58:45 PM

Quote from: simplemind on January 22, 2014, 07:50:19 PM

Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 07:48:20 PM

I could check the code. I`m no c or c++ coder but i work as a software developer and have a degree in computer science.
Just need some time to dive a bit into the code.
But if we find a willing and experienced coin coder he can do that. Time is something which is rare at the moment.

Great! rznag is checking the code and Solidchance will coordinate...

Who's going to be the marketeer?

Will checkout the code tomorrow and see what i can do.
But we shouldn`t release or do anything before end of weekend i would say. Just prepare a potential takeover.

Sounds good! Please give feedback to Solidchance, so he can inform us.

badam

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Quote from: adir77 on January 22, 2014, 07:56:10 PM

Hello

I sympathize with people who have no clear message from the developers.

I would expect them to clear information:
- Will there be a 100% honor coins diged before the fork? I understand that coins mined after fork at old wallet was gone Sad

- when be ready wallet under Windows?

Answers to these questions will calm situation.

I think it's worth giving a little more time to explain from developers.

Maybe it happened something random, which makes them an no answer on the forum.

I am with you from today

From what I read on http://www.e-token.org/

It is available the source code to the new fork. No Windows wallet.

you just need to compile and run. I did it and it looks that it works.

Data from getmininginfo agree with what the page (in statistics). So probably it is a new fork?

Code:

{
    "blocks" : 141106,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00024414,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 195690,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

The fork has a bug in it because difficulty decreased and now it is stuck at 0.00024. We need a new fork from block 42000 or so

rznag

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Quote from: simplemind on January 22, 2014, 07:50:19 PM

Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 07:48:20 PM

I could check the code. I`m no c or c++ coder but i work as a software developer and have a degree in computer science.
Just need some time to dive a bit into the code.
But if we find a willing and experienced coin coder he can do that. Time is something which is rare at the moment.

Great! rznag is checking the code and Solidchance will coordinate...

Who's going to be the marketeer?

Will checkout the code tomorrow and see what i can do.
But we shouldn`t release or do anything before end of weekend i would say. Just prepare a potential takeover.

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