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suncoastbuddy

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Quote from: maxidoge on January 22, 2014, 11:01:55 PM

i have bought some eTok at the very begining and holding them on coinedup.
hope i won't loose them after changes and also that they will have some value.
because i have spent bitcoins buying eTok.

after changes eTok must have some value, at least not inferior of value that original eTok had at the begining.

We are all in the same boat, that is why the community is trying to come up with a solution

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maxidoge

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i have bought some eTok at the very begining and holding them on coinedup.
hope i won't loose them after changes and also that they will have some value.
because i have spent bitcoins buying eTok.

after changes eTok must have some value, at least not inferior of value that original eTok had at the begining.

suncoastbuddy

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Quote from: ronaldinho_07 on January 22, 2014, 09:22:02 PM

etok was offline on coinedup,how do i get my etok back ?

if the fix above is implemented then all coinedup balances would remain

ronaldinho_07

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etok was offline on coinedup,how do i get my etok back ?

Solidchance

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Quote from: suncoastbuddy on January 22, 2014, 08:54:12 PM

what if we do this... and no it isn't the best solution because not everyone is going to be happy (including myself) but an option no the less.

Fork etoken at the block that coinedup stopped trading

In this fork do the following-
- destroy the 100000 etok that the dev still apparently holds
- introduce gravity well difficulty
- get rid of the 2500 and 250 block rewards (I believe these blocks could cause a fork in the future) and smooth out the block rewards for the remainder of the coin mining term but include another 100000 so that the total coins is the same in the end (900,000)

I think if this is done, everyone will be happy because they keep their etokens, coinedup will be happy because they loose nothing, the pools should be happy because I think they had all closed by this point.

the only down side I see to this is the people that kept mining after the issue started will be rewarded for their greed but hopefully they have already sold most of them and therefore the gain will be shared with the people that purchased them (unfortunately I didn't buy any Cry

)

is there anything I am missing?

+1 Lets get er done, we need a new website so people can download the new client, Also we need 24/7 DDOS against e-token.org stat

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thanks for your information

suncoastbuddy

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Then I believe u would get them back

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Quote from: suncoastbuddy on January 22, 2014, 08:57:59 PM

Quote from: tk808 on January 22, 2014, 08:56:09 PM

I have a question, i sent 200eTOK to my coinedup account, but if never got there because of the fork.

Will i ever see those 200 again?

We're u on the old chain?

I never upgraded my client or anything, so i suppose i was

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Quote from: tk808 on January 22, 2014, 08:56:09 PM

I have a question, i sent 200eTOK to my coinedup account, but if never got there because of the fork.

Will i ever see those 200 again?

We're u on the old chain?

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I have a question, i sent 200eTOK to my coinedup account, but if never got there because of the fork.

Will i ever see those 200 again?

suncoastbuddy

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what if we do this... and no it isn't the best solution because not everyone is going to be happy (including myself) but an option no the less.

Fork etoken at the block that coinedup stopped trading

In this fork do the following-
- destroy the 100000 etok that the dev still apparently holds
- introduce gravity well difficulty
- get rid of the 2500 and 250 block rewards (I believe these blocks could cause a fork in the future) and smooth out the block rewards for the remainder of the coin mining term but include another 100000 so that the total coins is the same in the end (900,000)

I think if this is done, everyone will be happy because they keep their etokens, coinedup will be happy because they loose nothing, the pools should be happy because I think they had all closed by this point.

the only down side I see to this is the people that kept mining after the issue started will be rewarded for their greed but hopefully they have already sold most of them and therefore the gain will be shared with the people that purchased them (unfortunately I didn't buy any Cry

)

is there anything I am missing?

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Quote from: mueller37 on January 22, 2014, 08:34:07 PM

The trades after fork are not the big problem i think, because many of the trades were old coins that already were on coinedup, so it isn't necessary to revert all trades.

The problem are the coins that were deposited to coinedup after the fork and then exchanged.
It should be possible to get the data from coinedup about the deposited amounts of etoken after fork. It shouldn't be that many deposits, because the most etok after fork were mined by a few solo miners.

Then we can collect donations for coinedup, to replace the exact amount of etoken deposited to coinedup after fork.
If it is too much, the exact amount of missing etoken could be included in the new fork and send to coinedup?
That way, the etok balances of the user accounts at coinedup would just remain the same since when the exchange went offline and nobody would lose anything.

(I don't know how coinedup deposits work, but i expect it to be a single wallet with different adresses for deposit? If thats true it should be possible like i explained.)

I emailed coinedup, so for now we'll just wait and see. As for re-forking, I would rather pay out of pocket for someone legit (i.e. axio ) and have a good product that we know will work, then to just try and fix it ourselves. Its a small price to pay considering we all have pretty much nothing now

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Quote from: mueller37 on January 22, 2014, 08:34:07 PM

The trades after fork are not the big problem i think, because many of the trades were old coins that already were on coinedup, so it isn't necessary to revert all trades.

The problem are the coins that were deposited to coinedup after the fork and then exchanged.
It should be possible to get the data from coinedup about the deposited amounts of etoken after fork. It shouldn't be that many deposits, because the most etok after fork were mined by a few solo miners.

Then we can collect donations for coinedup, to replace the exact amount of etoken deposited to coinedup after fork.
If it is too much, the exact amount of missing etoken could be included in the new fork and send to coinedup?
That way, the etok balances of the user accounts at coinedup would just remain the same since when the exchange went offline and nobody would lose anything.

(I don't know how coinedup deposits work, but i expect it to be a single wallet with different adresses for deposit? If thats true it should be possible like i explained.)

the thing is... fork happened at block 43117. I THINK coinedup stopped trading at around block 101750 which would be 60000 blocks were mined in between... that is about 97500 coins which could have been deposited and sold

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The trades after fork are not the big problem i think, because many of the trades were old coins that already were on coinedup, so it isn't necessary to revert all trades.

The problem are the coins that were deposited to coinedup after the fork and then exchanged.
It should be possible to get the data from coinedup about the deposited amounts of etoken after fork. It shouldn't be that many deposits, because the most etok after fork were mined by a few solo miners.

Then we can collect donations for coinedup, to replace the exact amount of etoken deposited to coinedup after fork.
If it is too much, the exact amount of missing etoken could be included in the new fork and send to coinedup?
That way, the etok balances of the user accounts at coinedup would just remain the same since when the exchange went offline and nobody would lose anything.

(I don't know how coinedup deposits work, but i expect it to be a single wallet with different adresses for deposit? If thats true it should be possible like i explained.)

suncoastbuddy

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does anyone know at what block coinedup stopped trading?

pttinh

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great community, i can say that. If DEV team need smt, pls say and I'm willing to help

gbomb944

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You would have to get coined up to reverse any trades that happened somewhere shortly after the fork issue. Maybe this is not to difficult if there werent that many and they would go along.

The people who bought the instamined coins would probably be happier and from the perspective of coined up I would rather keep them as clients than the dumpers. To be somewhat fair to the dumpers they may not necessarily have had full understanding that they were acting maliciously.

The problem comes in when someone sold $1000 worth and then cashed out. Someone has to eat that loss if you guys plan to roll back and invalidate the coins that came after the fork.

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 07:49:45 PM

Quote from: mycointr on January 22, 2014, 07:48:46 PM

Quote from: rznag on January 22, 2014, 07:38:42 PM

Coinedup is important, but it`s more important to roll back to a point where no bug was present.

more important? Huh

think again.... before talking this much...

there are a lot of not bugged coins out there, some have 0 premine... but people mine them 1-2h and forget...

a coin is nothing without exchange...

there is nothing important than making it tradable again...

There is no point in trading something worthless ...
So I better have something valuable that is gonna be traded again in some time

+1

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I have 73 eToken sitting in Coinedup.

Hope we can revive the coin and get it trading again

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