STOP THIS SHIT WITH NEW FORK!!!!! You gonna kill coin again! We didn't get communty answer for that deal.
It's not forked yet
And if you put up a vote. some people will awnser that hehe. 
Topic: [ANN] [eToken] Rare | Website 11 languages | New version -> mandatory update - page 19. (Read 108332 times)
January 23, 2014, 06:07:21 AM
It's not forked yet
And if you put up a vote. some people will awnser that hehe. January 23, 2014, 06:06:29 AM
we should wait for the dev guys. Dont be so fast. wait for him till this weekend.
January 23, 2014, 06:05:08 AM
STOP THIS SHIT WITH NEW FORK!!!!! You gonna kill coin again! We didn't get communty answer for that deal.
January 23, 2014, 06:04:59 AM
murkanovic i supose you also get rid of the long retarget time. I kinda think so. But you did not mention it 
Yes, as the original dev intended - I think 24 blocks to retarget is much better. January 23, 2014, 06:04:20 AM
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About point 5.
If you create and mine the block. You are the bank. We do need some coins for websites and promotion. Because also that cost time from certain people. Also creating wallets etc.
Are you willing to do that? I am willing to help with that. Transparency will also be important to the community.
January 23, 2014, 06:02:41 AM
murkanovic i supose you also get rid of the long retarget time. I kinda think so. But you did not mention it
January 23, 2014, 06:01:04 AM
super block at 50k blocks should be awarded for coinedup losses if everyones agree
+1
January 23, 2014, 05:59:23 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
+1.4MH/s for your pool. Lets do the 51% attack for a good cause
January 23, 2014, 05:59:07 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
About point 5.
If you create and mine the block. You are the bank. We do need some coins for websites and promotion. Because also that cost time from certain people. Also creating wallets etc.
Are you willing to do that? I am willing to help with that. Transparency will also be important to the community.
January 23, 2014, 05:58:18 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
when you fork the chain, it is maybe possible to destroy the 100k block that dev mined.
I would like to know how many coins is the new bank going to mine, should be under 10k given that the total number of coins is 900000. Remove the super blocks, or limit them to maybe 30 coins per block. those 2500 coins per block created a mess, people jumping on the coin, then leaving once they got their big block. And leaving the difficulty so high. That is why this coin died initially because of difficulty retarget.
I dont get one thing, why do you need to pay coined up some coins?? Coined up is free right? And the website says its for entertainment purpose, and is free, that means it does not take a fee. Then why pay a fee now?
January 23, 2014, 05:57:03 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
I like this idea. It seems the best case we can do.
About super block, I think that we should have superblocks which random every 1000/10000 blocks and the number of this should decrease. I think that 250 and 2500 coins/1 block is too much. In my opinion, 20 and 200 is enough.
January 23, 2014, 05:56:25 AM
January 23, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
Solidchance will be asleep at the moment, it is approx. 5am there I think
oke well i know (for as far as i had contact). He has the same basic ideas. And noone is really running it ofcourse. So with enough votes.
January 23, 2014, 05:54:16 AM
super block at 50k blocks should be awarded for coinedup losses if everyones agree
January 23, 2014, 05:52:53 AM
Solidchance will be asleep at the moment, it is approx. 5am there I think
January 23, 2014, 05:52:02 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
sounds good providing we keep coinedup happy and I definitely agree with removing such big superblocks they are just a 51% waiting to happen imo
January 23, 2014, 05:51:57 AM
Hi everyone, it's me again.
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
To clarify some things in last few pages:
- yes, I'm the owner of digiraha pools
- yes, I think I've managed to fix the bug in the instamine fork, but we need to mine three more blocks to be sure - the diff should drop to about 0.2 (new retarget window is 24 blocks, currently there have been mined 21 on "my" fork)
----
- I'm not 100% sure that I've understood the technical side correctly, but at the moment it seems to me that it is possible to drop the previous "bank" from the blockchain - those coins will be stuck in their current position and they can't be transmitted to new addresses. Old dev may try to sell his belongings as a wallet, but those coins couldn't be used. There are some details & tests that I'd need to go over before being 100% confident
- I'm willing to help out as a coder, but I have some terms that we need to go over as a community - first ones that pop into my would be:
1) disposing of the holdings of previous dev
2) mining the new bank to compensate coinedup their losses, if that's what it takes to get relisted
3) forking from the original forkblock at 42218
4) losing of superblocks or fixing their occurences - i'm not ok with predictable superblocks
5) I will compensate my time by mining a bigger block or by taking a donation from community - nothing big, normal dev payment (seems that one bigger block is needed, we have some parties to compensate)
if that's okay with you guys, lets get the ball rolling
It's kinda sums up it
About point 1. We are sure of 100.000 coins. The rest (38k) is to much spread out. Also to the first miners (crash devs pool). So i supose we can not delete that. People have been traiding with it from the start.
Mabey its a good idea you get in contact with Solidchance? You got my vote to do it.
January 23, 2014, 05:48:36 AM
Yeh i think this weekend we have to make a move. Even if dev comes back he has to accept that waiting one week. Knowing that the fork was bugged (he was online after that). And also that there is no team behing him (as promised) we had to move on.
So i supose.
We gut out the 100.000 coins of the old bank (Solidchance had the same idea). Greate a little bank to get it moving again. And just hold the name e-token. Its just to good
And with cutting back 100.000 coins. The coin becomes a little more rare. So good for the people who where there from the start.
So i supose.
We gut out the 100.000 coins of the old bank (Solidchance had the same idea). Greate a little bank to get it moving again. And just hold the name e-token. Its just to good
And with cutting back 100.000 coins. The coin becomes a little more rare. So good for the people who where there from the start.
January 23, 2014, 05:48:10 AM
Forking at block 42117 again is what I suggested in the first place but people weren't happy with that a few days ago
It really is hard to keep everyone happy in a situation like this
It really is hard to keep everyone happy in a situation like this
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