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Topic: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard) - page 160. (Read 961460 times)

sr. member
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And those funds pay at team of 13 people. With out any other source of funding like an ICO its absolutely foolish to try and fud them for it..... Traditional companies create stocks to sell for capital all the time.

   If the situation was as you describe it, could be very good. The stocks here are not the mined coins, its the actual development, the outer investments(not traders at exchanges) and partnerships. Otherwise only the traders ,who invest in the EXP devs to produce any stocks which will bring profit to everyone, are feeding the team.

      What are the real results until now and what did bring this to the community. Now again we are waiting for something and no one knows for what!  Huh


     I'm EXP supporter, but this doesn't mean I'm not gonna ask. I want answers and results, that's all!
legendary
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I'm tying to mine expanse with a 25 MHs GPU.
All work fine, just a question : online calculators (https://bitmakler.net/Expanse___mining) tell me that with my 25 MHs GPU I will have only 0,00000001 EXP at the end of the day !!!

There is a mistake here : what is your profitability experience with Expanse and a 25 MHs GPU ?
Is your profitability usually better with Expanse or Ethereum (I know that difficulties varies a lot...) ?

Thank you :-).
hero member
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Speaking of development, what's new, and what can we look forward to?
sr. member
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And those funds pay at team of 13 people. With out any other source of funding like an ICO its absolutely foolish to try and fud them for it..... Traditional companies create stocks to sell for capital all the time.

Completely agree. Come on guys, stop fudding.
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And those funds pay at team of 13 people. With out any other source of funding like an ICO its absolutely foolish to try and fud them for it..... Traditional companies create stocks to sell for capital all the time.
newbie
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Repeating publicly available information is an easy way to boost post count for those eager to gain "status". But it's even easier to click the Ignore option and get rid of the mad screaming blah  Roll Eyes

I figure these "dumps" are funding development of the DAO, and a well developed DAO means EXP will be valued higher, so, buying into these "dumps" is double yummie Smiley

Isnt it funny they think they are hurting our community? Meanwhile they are just sending buy signals to everyone.
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Let's put yourself into this position - you work full time as a developer and get a salary.  everyone as a cost of living that must be paid.  i'm sure you would do what was needed to make sure the bills were paid.
based on the numbers, it's not like these guys are funding a mansion in beverly hills. 

in this case, being transparent as the expanse has been, proves to the public that they are working, not scamming.
newbie
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Why is this team of FUDers trying so hard to push the price down of EXP by spreading lies?

The dev team has been completely transparent from day one about their spending m8's and everyone in the EXP community knows that. The devs originally agreed on 1m EXP over the course of the first year while they build all the pieces for their DAO. For the first 5 months, the devs used their own personal funds to build the infrastructure of the project. To suggest anything different is absolutely absurd because we have blockchain PROOF.

The Public Developer Funds as stated in the GENESIS BLOCK!!!
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/account/0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192

The first payment the devs received.
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/block_number/154638

DATE: 2016-02-11 13:51:10

Expanse launched

September 07, 2015, 11:28:20 PM

Do the math, thats 5 months the devs didnt take money from funds the community AGREED the devs should have. So that means they shouldered the entire weight of development, infrastructure, and paying anyone who helped out of pocket. Again to say different, is a lie. The troll above claims "they kept it secret for so long" which is complete bullshit. Anytime the developers used the dev funds they disclosed it publicly. Every newsletter has a "state of the dev funds" in it.

The Community Reserve (still untouched) with 10m EXP
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/account/0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e

Anyone with any doubts should not engage this troll and simply go back to the very first post and then proceed to read the next ten pages. Because its painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that the trolls arnt really after the truth they are just trying to destabilize EXP because the EXP projects challenge the very fabric of the establishment. Borderless.tech alone has the potential to make every oppressive government compete on a global scale.

The dumps are obviously coordinated by the people bringing up the claims the devs are doing it. Because no sooner does the price go down, these clowns are in here bringing attention to it and trying to deflect onto the dev team, but the blockchain doesnt lie. People with agendas do. Anon douche bags with a stick up their ass, do. If I were a betting gal id wager Ghergesu Valentine is the only one butthurt enough to spend this much time fabricating nonsense.

TLDR; Expanse had no ico. The reserve and dev fund were publicly announced as the way to fund EXP, they community sanctioned this method of funding and the funds have been sparingly and transparently spent. There simply is no "dumping".

Beware of anyone trying to tell you different because they are a damn liar at best or someone with a far more sinister plot at worst.

looks very transparent to me, but hey, there is a cost to operations and at least they are disclosing it.
newbie
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Repeating publicly available information is an easy way to boost post count for those eager to gain "status". But it's even easier to click the Ignore option and get rid of the mad screaming blah  Roll Eyes

I figure these "dumps" are funding development of the DAO, and a well developed DAO means EXP will be valued higher, so, buying into these "dumps" is double yummie Smiley
legendary
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Franko is Freedom
Why is this team of FUDers trying so hard to push the price down of EXP by spreading lies?

The dev team has been completely transparent from day one about their spending m8's and everyone in the EXP community knows that. The devs originally agreed on 1m EXP over the course of the first year while they build all the pieces for their DAO. For the first 5 months, the devs used their own personal funds to build the infrastructure of the project. To suggest anything different is absolutely absurd because we have blockchain PROOF.

The Public Developer Funds as stated in the GENESIS BLOCK!!!
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/account/0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192

The first payment the devs received.
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/block_number/154638

DATE: 2016-02-11 13:51:10

Expanse launched

September 07, 2015, 11:28:20 PM

Do the math, thats 5 months the devs didnt take money from funds the community AGREED the devs should have. So that means they shouldered the entire weight of development, infrastructure, and paying anyone who helped out of pocket. Again to say different, is a lie. The troll above claims "they kept it secret for so long" which is complete bullshit. Anytime the developers used the dev funds they disclosed it publicly. Every newsletter has a "state of the dev funds" in it.

The Community Reserve (still untouched) with 10m EXP
http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/account/0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e

Anyone with any doubts should not engage this troll and simply go back to the very first post and then proceed to read the next ten pages. Because its painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that the trolls arnt really after the truth they are just trying to destabilize EXP because the EXP projects challenge the very fabric of the establishment. Borderless.tech alone has the potential to make every oppressive government compete on a global scale.

The dumps are obviously coordinated by the people bringing up the claims the devs are doing it. Because no sooner does the price go down, these clowns are in here bringing attention to it and trying to deflect onto the dev team, but the blockchain doesnt lie. People with agendas do. Anon douche bags with a stick up their ass, do. If I were a betting gal id wager Ghergesu Valentine is the only one butthurt enough to spend this much time fabricating nonsense.

TLDR; Expanse had no ico. The reserve and dev fund were publicly announced as the way to fund EXP, they community sanctioned this method of funding and the funds have been sparingly and transparently spent. There simply is no "dumping".

Beware of anyone trying to tell you different because they are a damn liar at best or someone with a far more sinister plot at worst.


Well said Samantha. You are spot on. It's very sad what some people will stoop to.
legendary
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Mining Pool Hub
[Expanse Mining Pool Hub]

Opened Expanse pool finally.
https://expanse.miningpoolhub.com

Claymore needs "-allcoins 1" option to mine expanse. (This is due to DAG and Claymore's dev fee issue)

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool europe1.expanse.miningpoolhub.com:20565 -ewal username.workername -allcoins 1 -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal coincoin.testsia -dpsw x -dcoin sc
newbie
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What the f$c/ are these dumps? I think we need some proof of your hard work guys, people are losing interest...  Undecided Unless you guys are the ones dumping?
newbie
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Update! Newsletter 10 with more dumps!

Warning to investors. Expanse team is DUMPING THE PREMINE

Expanse has an 11 million EXP premine and has reserved 1 million EXP for the team.

For a long time the team did not disclose their dumping. Now with the newsletters they have the figures buried under the “RESERVE REPORT” sections.

Here we bring you the numbers on their DUMPS

September 15, 2016 - Expanse team Premine 1,000,000 EXP left to dump

Team did not disclose their PREMINE DUMPS!

May 1, 2016 - 641000 left to dump - Newsletter 1 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/143668019783/expanse-newsletter-1-512016

"The team reserve is at 641000, and is planned to be used over the next year to fund development."

From launch until May 1, 2016 the Expanse team has DUMPED 359,000 EXP.

May 15, 2016 - 641000 left to dump - Newsletter 2 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/144431581488/expanse-newsletter-2-the-dao-is-borderless

The team took a 2 week break from dumping. Maybe they will dump twice as much next time.

June 1, 2016 - 578005 left to dump - Newsletter 3 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/145283206753/expanse-newsletter-3-building-a-better-dao

The team dumped 641000 - 578005 = 62995 EXP DUMPED!! Lots of Lambos!

June 15, 2016 - 548005 left to dump - Newsletter 4 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/145959532823/expanse-newsletter-4-expanse-opportunity

30000 EXP DUMPED!!

July 1, 2016 - 515304 left to dump - Newsletter 5 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/146780245933/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no5

32701 EXP DUMPED!!

July 20, 2016 - 482,704 left to dump - Newsletter 6 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/147699823603/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no6-7202016

32600 EXP DUMPED!!

August 1, 2016 - 452,604 left to dump - Newsletter 7 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/148297625538/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no7-812016-eth-exp

30100 EXP DUMPED!!!

August 15, 2016 - 418,354 left to dump - Newsletter 8 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/148981204623/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no8-8152016-first

34250 EXP DUMPED!!

September 1, 2016 - 388,204 left to dump - Newsletter 9 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/149791717483/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no9-912016-real

30150 EXP DUMPED!!

September 15, 2016 - 354,704 left to dump - Newsletter 10 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/150446375953/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no10-9152016

33500 EXP DUMPED!!

sr. member
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I saw the same with the 8Gb 480's. ETH became slow because of the DAG size and the 3Gb on the older GPU's but is back on par with EXP with the 8Gb GPUs
DAG size affects speed because of lower memory throughput on older cards, but my 270 and 380x both work with 6GHz memory. AFAIK memory size doesn't matter, if it is 2GB or more.
Check just now, 480's are about 1-2 mgh slower than on ETH...  Huh
On R9 270 ETH are about 13 mgh, EXP ~17, R9 380x ETH 20-21, EXP 19-21.
newbie
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I saw the same with the 8Gb 480's. ETH became slow because of the DAG size and the 3Gb on the older GPU's but is back on par with EXP with the 8Gb GPUs
sr. member
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I returned from ETH to EXP mining, and hashrate go up, as i expected, but only on 7850/270. On 380x and rx480 i get same speed, maybe even a bit lower Huh Is it normal?
sr. member
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So the dev team dumped again!?

I don't think it's done by normal traders.
legendary
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does Gexp have the same vulnerability we witnessed today with Geth in ETH?
legendary
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the grandpa of cryptos
Warning to investors. Expanse team is DUMPING THE PREMINE

Expanse has an 11 million EXP premine and has reserved 1 million EXP for the team.

For a long time the team did not disclose their dumping. Now with the newsletters they have the figures buried under the “RESERVE REPORT” sections.

Here we bring you the numbers on their DUMPS

September 15, 2016 - Expanse team Premine 1,000,000 EXP left to dump

Team did not disclose their PREMINE DUMPS!

May 1, 2016 - 641000 left to dump - Newsletter 1 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/143668019783/expanse-newsletter-1-512016

"The team reserve is at 641000, and is planned to be used over the next year to fund development."

From launch until May 1, 2016 the Expanse team has DUMPED 359,000 EXP.

May 15, 2016 - 641000 left to dump - Newsletter 2 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/144431581488/expanse-newsletter-2-the-dao-is-borderless

The team took a 2 week break from dumping. Maybe they will dump twice as much next time.

June 1, 2016 - 578005 left to dump - Newsletter 3 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/145283206753/expanse-newsletter-3-building-a-better-dao

The team dumped 641000 - 578005 = 62995 EXP DUMPED!! Lots of Lambos!

June 15, 2016 - 548005 left to dump - Newsletter 4 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/145959532823/expanse-newsletter-4-expanse-opportunity

30000 EXP DUMPED!!

July 1, 2016 - 515304 left to dump - Newsletter 5 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/146780245933/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no5

32701 EXP DUMPED!!

July 20, 2016 - 482,704 left to dump - Newsletter 6 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/147699823603/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no6-7202016

32600 EXP DUMPED!!

August 1, 2016 - 452,604 left to dump - Newsletter 7 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/148297625538/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no7-812016-eth-exp

30100 EXP DUMPED!!!

August 15, 2016 - 418,354 left to dump - Newsletter 8 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/148981204623/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no8-8152016-first

34250 EXP DUMPED!!

September 1, 2016 - 388,204 left to dump - Newsletter 9 http://blog.expanse.tech/post/149791717483/expanse-newsletter-vo-1-no9-912016-real

30150 EXP DUMPED!!




Wow 0_o

As an EXP investor, I see a couple issues right off the bat.

1. Why is this news hidden away from the community? It's like the dev team is doing the minimum announcements possible.

2. Shouldn't these expenditures be accompanied with detailed statements of where the money is going?

3. Premine dumping aside.... Lol, that is an aggressive burn rate for a startup! What is the team's plan for when they run out of premined coins to dump, or we the community run out of BTC to buy their dumps?

Look at the Blockexplorer Noobs

http://www.expanse.tech/explorer/accounts


10M EXP is still intact


GO FUDge somewhere else, hehe Grin






it was always a scam coin, they dumped it to zero few times, made newbies join rinse n repeat.
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need more information to give traders on polo.
legendary
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Franko is Freedom
when the DAO will be ready the price of flying to 0,01 BTC. buy better now. DAO coming soon!

We are working on another roadmap for the DAO which will be out soon.
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