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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.

Hi there Wh1teKn1ght, good and important question!! See this:

There are many GPU and ASIC resistant crypto-currencies, but they have all been broken and eventually mined by GPUs. Some tried to make mining memory-hard (Scrypt, Litecoin, Yacoin, Memorycoin). Others tried to increase the implementation complexity of the cryptographic hash functions (Quark, et al). However, at the end of the day, all of these efforts were overcome because GPU and ASIC miners are always able to increase their fast access memory capacity and also the complexity of their implementations. (...)

Heavycoin is different because it is designed from its core to be permanently CPU-only. Heavycoin introduces the HEFTY1 cryptographic hash function in order to thwart GPU and ASIC miners by breaking out of the SIMD paradigm. The machine instructions that comprise HEFTY1 vary depending on input data. That is, the particular instructions that are executed will not be the same for each hash guess. Thus, it impossible for a GPU or ASIC to have an advantage over a CPU.

More info: http://heavycoin.github.io/about.html#cpu-only



"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

This is not what the site said. He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256. He even mentioned Snowden. This is dishonest propaganda and it tells me the people involved in heavycoin  are dishonest.

I don't trust them.

"He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256"
:: I don't see how you read that from the quoted sentence.

U do not have to trust them, all u need is to read their code. that's it. being critical is a very good thing.

& please see my full quote:

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

BTW   Heavycoin itself used SHA-256 as one of its four cryptographic hash functions as it works by combining "4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaving these bits into a combined 256-bit hash"

thus it does not at all say SHA-256 is bad.  
if u don't like this cautious attitude towards SHA-256 you have all the rights in the world not to care about HVC Wink
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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.

Particle..
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"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

This is not what the site said. He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256. He even mentioned Snowden. This is dishonest propaganda and it tells me the people involved in heavycoin  are dishonest.

I don't trust them.
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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.
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"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

BTW   Heavycoin itself used SHA-256 as one of its four cryptographic hash functions as it works by combining "4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaving these bits into a combined 256-bit hash"

thus it does not at all say SHA-256 is bad.  
if u don't like this cautious attitude towards SHA-256 you have all the rights in the world not to care about HVC Wink
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You lost me.

I was about to buy 5 BTC worth until I clicked on the site and read

"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention. 

Not buying it when the author starts with dishonest propaganda.

Goodbye

k bye, damn you will be missed as an investor, I don't know how Heavy coin will do without you, please reconsider? please please please.
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You lost me.

I was about to buy 5 BTC worth until I clicked on the site and read

"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academics for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itself is US military invention.  

Not buying it when the author starts with dishonest propaganda.

Goodbye
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Not yet a gpu miner for this coin?

There are many GPU and ASIC resistant crypto-currencies, but they have all been broken and eventually mined by GPUs. Some tried to make mining memory-hard (Scrypt, Litecoin, Yacoin, Memorycoin). Others tried to increase the implementation complexity of the cryptographic hash functions (Quark, et al). However, at the end of the day, all of these efforts were overcome because GPU and ASIC miners are always able to increase their fast access memory capacity and also the complexity of their implementations. Moreover, making mining memory-hard has serious drawbacks, which prevents your average desktop user from mining.

Heavycoin is different because it is designed from its core to be permanently CPU-only. Heavycoin introduces the HEFTY1 cryptographic hash function in order to thwart GPU and ASIC miners by breaking out of the SIMD paradigm. The machine instructions that comprise HEFTY1 vary depending on input data. That is, the particular instructions that are executed will not be the same for each hash guess. Thus, it impossible for a GPU or ASIC to have an advantage over a CPU.
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HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool is OPEN!
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php

Pool is compatible with the stratum miners provided by 1GH

Consider the pool in beta mode for now but trust us it should work, we only have little hash power.
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Price & Charts here: http://crypto-prices.com/HVC

shame you only use a illegitimate business like mintpal instead of the two legal business exchanges that picked it up day one.

Oh well maybe people will learn once and for all when mintpal gets "hacked" or decides to shut its doors with peoples money in it. And guess what you suckers get stuck holding nothing. Enjoy being duped you sheep.

ummmm, fuck off? you cunt! lol
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Price & Charts here: http://crypto-prices.com/HVC

I think it'd be perfect if I you add +/- % vs previous period next to each coin name on the left
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Not yet a gpu miner for this coin?
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Price & Charts here: http://crypto-prices.com/HVC

shame you only use a illegitimate business like mintpal instead of the two legal business exchanges that picked it up day one.

Oh well maybe people will learn once and for all when mintpal gets "hacked" or decides to shut its doors with peoples money in it. And guess what you suckers get stuck holding nothing. Enjoy being duped you sheep.
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House Edge is %0.5



Donation to bankroll
HHeHAKQNWNBMmmwGDWP6819fsWvBEHZVJg

And we are looking for a small bounty from dev team, thanks!

 yo I just deposited 100 HVC but it isn't showing up?

Everything sorted, the creator is a true gent.
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Hello everyone,

Please Vote 1, so your HVC will be worth more!!!!!!!!
File>>Preferences>> "Vote on block reward 1"

Also HVC is trading currently UNDER what its worth!!!!!!!!!!
ALSO check out https://heavycoinpool.com/index.php !!!!!


Exchanges: https://www.cryptoaltex.com/index.php?page=trade&market=16
      https://www.mintpal.com/market/HVC/BTC
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House Edge is %0.5



Donation to bankroll
HHeHAKQNWNBMmmwGDWP6819fsWvBEHZVJg

And we are looking for a small bounty from dev team, thanks!

 yo I just deposited 100 HVC but it isn't showing up?
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Bullshit.
You're probably right. The devs have shown very little understanding of their own code since launch in trying to compile a Mac wallet and add stratum support.
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Quick update:  Today we're hoping to release the stratum-mining software to another pool for testing (doge94 / heavy.stablehash.com).  (So there'd be three pools in total.)  Assuming all goes well (and we hear back good results today) then we hope to release the software to the general community.  The binaries will be release too (win32, win64, linux and osx)

We are putting a strong emphasis on testing because we want to make sure the software is stable and robust.  Many miners these days are paying for their compute-power and could not afford lost blocks (for example) due to any bugs.
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