[ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin - page 16.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on February 17, 2019, 12:28:02 PM

is the development still alive in this old coin? where are they currently traded? couldn't see this coin in cmc.

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Quote from: Temido2222 on January 30, 2019, 08:41:21 PM

I actually laughed when I saw the concept and prices. Get this trash off the forums.

As much fun as I have talking to myself, I was just wondering if anyone else other than bots and people who clearly do not get it, is reading and having fun. If not I might actualy take this advise (get off the forum and keep the coins to myself).

if you will keep the coins to yourself, then, what's the value of this in you? just for collector's item, i suppose...

MINNIE:

That in fact was one of the more intelligent comment we have seen for some times, so I will be happy to answer that.

Dear CaVO32 , our Disney Coin is much more a commodity than money. As art it is not about each item being unique and different from the other but ruther an item that holds the value of the art.
You May also think of it as original prints. Just as prints that are numbered and have a value based on the total number of prints and the overall market value of works by that artist who create the original image, so are these coins. Like prints, the value is not in the plates used to create the print but in the print itself. However unlike prints or cash (bills as prints) it can be transfer online and be exchange in the speed of light. So as a collector one should think of it as art work which hold the most fungible value as well.

We, Mickey and I, were very surprised to realize how ignorant humans are when it comes to real value, and how unimaginative compare to us Toons. We can only hope that if we keep explaining it and just be present as the Toons that we are, we may be able to achieve that. However Nili, the artist and the human who issued the coins had enough with humans stupidity and decided to join our dialogues leaving us the responsibility to answer here.

I hope that you find this answer helpful. Also, I will bring to our team the issue of restructuring the coins sale in such way that will let interested collectors buy the coins directly on Counterparty DeX

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Who would seriously buy this coin? There's obvious and explicit copyright infringements, there's no purpose for it, no innovation. I thought that these type of scams would stop with the bear market. I guess they won't stop rather the stupidity of people investing in something like this is what have to stop.

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Quote from: skybot13x on February 17, 2019, 12:31:47 PM

Do you see any chance that the name you chose for this coin could get you into trouble at any point in time in the future?

MICKEY:

I will answer that if you don't mind.
The name is a crucial part of the concept of our coin. We are taking a fresh and a bit radical look at some outdated laws regarding a "legal entity that is separate and distinct from its owner while enjoy most of the rights and responsibilities that an individual possesses". If a corporation is such legal entity, then I as Mickey Mouse is the rightful owner of all my character's work once I can demonstrate some qualities such as a corporate or even better as an AI . I intend to do it at some point if Disney try to sue us.
As we explained before, we also have a very strong case for some of our coin's properties and intellectual properties that Disney may try to claim as its own. (that if they can demonstrate any intellect whatsoever as being an integral part of it's entity).
By creating the coin as a conceptual art work bearing the name of Disney and using the image of the logo as the inspiration for the artwork, Nili as the artist, is making a rightful use of a cultural icon that is part of our shred experience in our civilization of the twenty first century.

I hope that this answers your question.

Thank you.

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Do you see any chance that the name you chose for this coin could get you into trouble at any point in time in the future?

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is the development still alive in this old coin? where are they currently traded? couldn't see this coin in cmc.

Quote from: nili on January 30, 2019, 09:00:55 PM

Quote from: Temido2222 on January 30, 2019, 08:41:21 PM

I actually laughed when I saw the concept and prices. Get this trash off the forums.

As much fun as I have talking to myself, I was just wondering if anyone else other than bots and people who clearly do not get it, is reading and having fun. If not I might actualy take this advise (get off the forum and keep the coins to myself).

if you will keep the coins to yourself, then, what's the value of this in you? just for collector's item, i suppose...

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Quote from: nili on February 15, 2019, 06:42:56 AM

NILI: When you imagine One, you already have a representation to that which is not yet existed, so you are left with the negation of itself to represent it as the actual being of itself, hence, Not-One

1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 .....

NOUR: If I may, I don't think that it is such a good idea to use numbers as representation of quantity. .

CHARACTER: I will agree with that. Each number being a different character suggest that it also have a meaning other than it's unit count.

NILI: It is indeed a massive problem, particularly when we deal with the most fundamental concepts. However we need "one" to be conceptualized as a unit on the number line.

MINNIE: We should also keep in mind that we are not the masters of math.

NILI: We are not going to do any math only deal with some concepts of math.

SATOSHI: Such as?.

NILI: The number itself.

NOUR: A number is a mathematical concept?

NILI: Not all numbers, "zero", "one" and "not-one" are logic concepts.

NOUR: Like "false", "true" and "not-true"?

NILI: Not quite the same but this is where our study begins.

SATOSHI: We may need to change the format of our conversation for that and make it more like a class.

NOUR: Or a study group.

MINNIE: Like a dialog.

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Quote from: nili on February 14, 2019, 09:39:05 AM

MINNIE: And your work is art.

SATOSHI: Now that we are so pleased with our work, can we go back to the new symbol and it's meaning?.

NILI: In the beginning of no beginning.

NOUR: That solves the "In the beginning of the beginning of the beginning of the beginning...." .

CHARACTER: Could be represented as a spiral with a strike-through.

NOUR: Or a loop with a strike-through.

NILI: It is a number.

SATOSHI: Not-one.

NILI: Yes, it was missing from the number-line all along.

NOUR: Is it like the imaginary number "i" ?

NILI: Like it in terms of a new number but it is needed to solve a different class of problems.

NOUR: Which class?

NILI: Logic! It is needed to resolve inconsistency in the logic of math itself.

SATOSHI: As always , can't even begin to imagine what makes you reach that conclusion.

NILI: Begin to imagine actualy describe it quite well.

NOUR: Begin by imagine?

NILI: When you imagine One, you already have a representation to that which is not yet existed, so you are left with the negation of itself to represent it as the actual being of itself, hence, Not-One

1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 .....

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Quote from: nili on February 11, 2019, 06:04:05 AM

SATOSHI: Nonsense.

CHARACTER: Well, do you have an answer?

NOUR: I didn't see the question.

NILI: I asked it on a different forum.

NOUR: As a private massage? .

NILI: In public, on the IRC .

NOUR: What did you ask?

SATOSHI: To accept an invitation to be Satoshi.

NILI: To be more precise, as I did before, I asked to get his permission to use his name for my work.

NOUR: As you did before?

MINNIE: It's your art work and you don't have to do that!

NILI: Yes, but I don't put my art above all.

MICKEY: You put it above the law in my case.

SATOSHI: That is the rule of the game.

MICKEY: What game?

SATOSHI: The game of changing existing rules.

NILI: Art is the reality of changing rules, not a game.

MINNIE: And your work is art.

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Quote from: nili on February 08, 2019, 08:12:09 AM

MICKEY: Hold on... I thought that only Minnie actualy met Satoshi.

NOUR: I met him too.

DUALITY: And so did I.

NILI: We each met a manifestation of him, but none are proven to be him.

MICKEY: This proving thing again....

CHARACTER: Which manifestation of him did you meet, Nili?

MICKEY: I would also be interested to know which is the one our Satoshi met.

SATOSHI: I met them all.

NOUR: I actualy think that the most interesting one is the one Nili met.

NILI: He is a pseudonym.

DUALITY: But not Satoshi Nakamoto?

NILI: No!

SATOSHI: So how would you know that he is one of me.

NILI: If it makes sense, then he is.

MICKEY: But making sense is not a proof.

NILI: In fact, it is the only thing a proof is.

SATOSHI: Nonsense.

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Quote from: nili on February 08, 2019, 05:58:37 AM

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DUALITY: Is that a symbol or a character?

MICKEY: Character should know best.

CHARACTER: I dont know. Remember, I was the one asking what character am I .

SATOSHI: A symbol a letter or a personality.

NOUR: All are representations of sets of rules.

NILI: Like a code.

DUALITY: What is identity then?

NILI: The history each is creating .

SATOSHI: That is not the accepted terminology.

NILI: You wouldn't need me if you could use the the accepted terminology .

SATOSHI: Like the accepted spelling.

NILI: Indeed, you need the exception.

SATOSHI: Indid it is.

MICKEY: I have no clue what you two are talking about, but if it have anything to do with identity I would love to know.

MINNIE: It have everything to do with Satoshi's identity but not directly with ours.

NILI: Yes, we got side tracked to some conversations in the past.

MICKEY: Hold on... I thought that only Minnie actualy met Satoshi.

NOUR: I met him too.

DUALITY: And so did I.

NILI: We each met a manifestation of him, but none are proven to be him.

MICKEY: This proving thing again....

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Quote from: nili on February 07, 2019, 10:24:01 AM

NILI: And because Toonnivers is his vision not ours, we just happened to figure it out.

SATOSHI: I'm afraid that I can't help you at this point.

NOUR: One word from you on any forum is all that it takes.

DUALITY: One word that says it all

MICKEY: Maybe we can help him figure out what this word should be.

NILI: It's not a word.

DUALITY: A number then?

MICKEY: Or a shape.

MINNIE: Maybe a symbol.

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wen Binance?

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Quote from: nili on February 07, 2019, 04:26:38 AM

SATOSHI: This may take some time.

NOUR: Less time if you do something about it, Satoshi.

NILI: But do we want him to... ?

DUALITY: It's a tough call,

MICKEY: I think it would be a lot of fun if he would.

NOUR: I am not sure that we want all this attention. .

MINNIE: I trust him to do something clever enough to get things move faster in our direction but without directing the headlights toward us.

NILI: Instead of coming from the opposite direction he can just catch up with us.

MICKEY: Why would he do anything at all?

MINNIE: Because he did twice before.

NILI: And because Toonnivers is his vision not ours, we just happened to figure it out.

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Quote from: nili on February 06, 2019, 03:00:03 PM

NILI: It's ahead of its time.

SATOSHI: Knowing you, "spending time" is not what most would make of it.

CHARACTER: Another character maybe?

NILI: Not character, space.

MINNIE: Time is space.

NILI: Right, we spend time to occupy space.

MICKEY: And why do we want to occupy space?

NILI: To be here when time comes.

SATOSHI: This may take some time.

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Quote from: nili on February 05, 2019, 05:04:36 AM

DUALITY: Hodl.

MINNIE: Hodl or not, I feel stuck.

NILI: I guess it is time to tell you all something about what we do here.

CHARACTER: Are you going to give us a monologue.

NILI: No.

SATOSHI: So what is it that we do here?

NILI: Spending time.

MINNIE: What about figuring out the next chain?

NILI: Not anymore.

MICKEY: Why?

NILI: It's ahead of its time.

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Quote from: nili on February 04, 2019, 03:51:07 AM

SATOSHI: You are both an inspiration to us all!

MINNIE: Just to be clear, are we still the Disney Coin presenters?

NILI: As long as we are on this forum, we are.

MICKEY: But we are also much more.

SATOSHI: And many more.

NOUR: We allso expended the boundaries of the coins to many related concepts.

CHARACTER: I would love to see our dialogues expend as well.

DUALITY: And go much deeper in our search for reality.

MICKEY. As well as our identity.

NILI: Reality is the sum of all identities.

SATOSHI: But an identity can never be summed up.

NILI: Or proved.

MICKEY: What is identity?

MINNIE: You are the one searching for it, you should know best.

CHARACTER: I believe that I hold the answer to that.

SATOSHI: Hold is the key word.

DUALITY: Hodl.

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Quote from: nili on February 04, 2019, 03:43:09 AM

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NILI: I have done that so all is in order.

NILI: ..... However, I still don't understand who is following this thread.

MICKEY: As long as we can keep being our-free-selves, I don't care who else is aware of that.

MINNIE: Wow Mickey, I am so impressed.

SATOSHI: You are both an inspiration to us all!

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Quote from: nili on January 30, 2019, 09:00:55 PM

Quote from: Temido2222 on January 30, 2019, 08:41:21 PM

I actually laughed when I saw the concept and prices. Get this trash off the forums.

As much fun as I have talking to myself, I was just wondering if anyone else other than bots and people who clearly do not get it, is reading and having fun. If not I might actualy take this advise (get off the forum and keep the coins to myself).

MICKEY: I must say that this statement made me really concern.

NILI: lucky for you, I decided to join instead of leaving.

MICKEY: Good choice, I can't imagine what I would do if you have left.

SATOSHI: You would just go back to Disney.

MICKEY: There is no turning back after tasting the sweet taste of artistic freedom.

NILI: Well, as long as we are not Toons-on-a-chain, this freedom is in the hands of Theymos.

MICKEY: I'll take Theymos for now.

SATOSHI: Would be smart to back us all up somewhere out of his reach.

NILI: I have done that so all is in order.

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Quote from: nili on February 02, 2019, 12:03:11 PM

CHARACTER: Not to mention Nour herself.

NOUR: I was wondering about your color choice, Nili.

NILI: It took some thought to realize that it had to be black.

DUALITY: In order to unify the two realities, she had to keep a unified identity.

MICKEY: To be specific, which two realities are you talking about?

DUALITY: That of her thread on Bitcointalk, and that in our dialogues.

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Quote from: nili on February 02, 2019, 11:15:54 AM

MINNIE: She just entered ours.

CHARACTER: Is Nili a She?

SATOSHI: I was also surprised when I realized that.

CHARACTER: When did you realized it?.

SATOSHI: Some time after I joined the conversation on this thread.

DUALITY: Hold on, this means that "nour" might actualy be her.

SATOSHI: As well as you Duality.

CHARACTER: Not to mention Nour herself.

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