In all seriousness from what I gather, the coin was needed for an ICO to raise funds for the game development.
True story, I got a picture from one of their development strategy brainstorming quality assurance development meetings:
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September 01, 2016, 12:56:11 PM
True story, I got a picture from one of their development strategy brainstorming quality assurance development meetings:
September 01, 2016, 12:29:13 PM
In all seriousness from what I gather, the coin was needed for an ICO to raise funds for the game development.
September 01, 2016, 09:31:20 AM
The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
All your coins are belong to us? That the vision?
No, the ION coin belongs to the investor and can be held in a staking wallet, a masternode or on the Ionomy platform.
Well as its in no way related to the game what is the point of the coin?
To make money, but it's not about the money. Contradicting, I know but that is what I hear.
September 01, 2016, 07:37:09 AM
The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
All your coins are belong to us? That the vision?
No, the ION coin belongs to the investor and can be held in a staking wallet, a masternode or on the Ionomy platform.
Well as its in no way related to the game what is the point of the coin?
September 01, 2016, 07:12:35 AM
The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
All your coins are belong to us? That the vision?
No, the ION coin belongs to the investor and can be held in a staking wallet, a masternode or on the Ionomy platform.
September 01, 2016, 06:49:47 AM
The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
All your coins are belong to us? That the vision?
September 01, 2016, 05:57:42 AM
Not gonna play the Garza XPY guessing game. If the team isn't gonna present the information after questions were asked and asked with civility, o well. I'd like to see the project succeed but sadly this project feels like a carbon copy of the past XPY project.
Nope, nothing close to being like XPY project. You get further away from the Ionomy vision when you compare it to past Crypto projects.
Team ION doesn't want to be upfront and transparent. They want to make their XPY bag holders whole and to say "I told you so". Which is fucked up, but so be it.
What, when they figure it out? Thanks Homero.
You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
The Ionomy implementation of their vision will be become clear soon!!!
September 01, 2016, 05:53:09 AM
Not gonna play the Garza XPY guessing game. If the team isn't gonna present the information after questions were asked and asked with civility, o well. I'd like to see the project succeed but sadly this project feels like a carbon copy of the past XPY project.
Team ION doesn't want to be upfront and transparent. They want to make their XPY bag holders whole and to say "I told you so". Which is fucked up, but so be it.
Team ION doesn't want to be upfront and transparent. They want to make their XPY bag holders whole and to say "I told you so". Which is fucked up, but so be it.
You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
What, when they figure it out? Thanks Homero.
September 01, 2016, 05:35:50 AM
Not gonna play the Garza XPY guessing game. If the team isn't gonna present the information after questions were asked and asked with civility, o well. I'd like to see the project succeed but sadly this project feels like a carbon copy of the past XPY project.
Team ION doesn't want to be upfront and transparent. They want to make their XPY bag holders whole and to say "I told you so". Which is fucked up, but so be it.
Team ION doesn't want to be upfront and transparent. They want to make their XPY bag holders whole and to say "I told you so". Which is fucked up, but so be it.
September 01, 2016, 05:17:43 AM
It appears that the coin serves no purpose then. It was just used to raise funds to develop games. And the stakers are used to lock people into the platform. Not a big fan of his approach at all. Dishonest in a way.
The ION coin is used in the Ionomy vision more than ICO. The Ionomy vision when released will show an approach that is not dishonest...
You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
September 01, 2016, 05:09:16 AM
It appears that the coin serves no purpose then. It was just used to raise funds to develop games. And the stakers are used to lock people into the platform. Not a big fan of his approach at all. Dishonest in a way.
September 01, 2016, 12:51:57 AM
If the games don't use ion how will they make your ion be worth more?
Isn't that the goal? Shouldn't that be the goal?
Isn't that the goal? Shouldn't that be the goal?
August 31, 2016, 11:38:13 PM
Not thrilled about the fact that normal QT wallets won't qualify. By creating a need for Ionomy stakers to be used is just further centralizing this coin. It seems the goal is for Ionomy to control ALL the coins in the wild?
Not sure why you would develop a game and it not be compatible with the QT wallet. Not everyone wants to keep their coins online and locked up at that. I don't keep any coins in an online wallet. Paper wallet or QT for me.
Not sure why you would develop a game and it not be compatible with the QT wallet. Not everyone wants to keep their coins online and locked up at that. I don't keep any coins in an online wallet. Paper wallet or QT for me.
The Ionomy games interface thru the Ionomy API not using the block chain. The QT wallet is not designed to use the the Ionomy API
About making Crypo easier...this is making it more difficult. If I have a QT wallet and want to benefit from these games, I need to first transfer my coins and lock them in a staker. Then I can play said game but all my coins are now locked away for an extended period of time.
The Ionomy games do not use IONs or need to transfer and lock in staker!!!
Really the only chance to sneak under the regulatory radar would be for ionomy to remain obscure and irrelevant. They're doing a good job at that so far, I'll give them that.
This is wrong too but I did get a good laugh out of it. Ionomy has not release all the details of their Ionomy vision!!!
You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
August 31, 2016, 06:31:17 PM
Not? I think that is exactly how it would/could work. You dont have to buy electrons, it is optional, probably using google pay or whatever. It is very common to buy ingame these days. You can buy all kind of stuff, also credits like farmbucks (farmville) or "gold coins" etc. I don't see how electrons would be any different?
There have been big exchanges (like https://www.virwox.com) around for a long time where you can buy/sell all kind of game credits. Not crypto money though. I never heard one of these games getting into trouble with regulation on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Second_Life#Legal_position_of_the_Linden_Dollar
There have been big exchanges (like https://www.virwox.com) around for a long time where you can buy/sell all kind of game credits. Not crypto money though. I never heard one of these games getting into trouble with regulation on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Second_Life#Legal_position_of_the_Linden_Dollar
That's my point. Regular in-game purchases in a popular game - fine. Convoluted redemption for electrons - meh, most users wouldn't bother, and if that's the main feature it would likely flop. Even if it somehow succeeds you have to wonder why it needs to be tied to crypto if there is nothing crypto about it. You buy or earn points, you redeem them for something or other, all that is off-chain, what does it have to do with cryptocurrency?
Now as far as regulation is concerned, in the US the SEC has established itself as the agency that investigates cryptocurrency investments for securities fraud. Coincidentally they also regulate crowdfunding. Not to mention FinCEN requirements. I know the elusive ionomy PTE is supposed to make it look like the US law doesn't apply but I doubt that with the principals and many investors residing in the US the agencies would see it that way.
Really the only chance to sneak under the regulatory radar would be for ionomy to remain obscure and irrelevant. They're doing a good job at that so far, I'll give them that.
August 31, 2016, 05:03:28 PM
But stakers we 100% a part of the games? Well, Gravity at least.
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Stakers on ionomy.com got nothing to do with actual staking (POS). Those are just PNGs like hashlets/hashstakers. You can tell that by the fact that they have different APRs depending on certain conditions. Actual ION staking is constant and is not even APR-based but a fixed reward per block.
Which is where the electrons come in AFAIK. They make your stakers stake more. That's why it doesn't work with your QT wallet. It's just a thing you add to your PNG to make it shit out more coins from the team's masternodes or the premine or wherever those coins are coming from.
So the game doesn't need to be connected to the blockchain, it just deals in non-crypto tokens, that can be used on a certain website. The whole spiel about making crypto easy to use etc is just a smokescreen IMHO. They could do the same thing with coupons or points or whatever.
Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm not a whale but on the other hand my speculation didn't cost you a bottle of scotch.
Exactly, and to answer your question how to comply with Play Store TOS, there it is ;-) ^
If that's the case then it's not a very bright plan, is it?
Let's say even if it was a hugely popular game, like PVZ or COC, how many players would really bother getting those electrons, register on some site, where they would have to buy some odd crypto currency, lock it up for months, so that they could redeem electrons to get 25% more currency that depreciates 50% in 3 months?
Why not just sell in-game content or ads and pay the profit out as dividend to investors. No hassle for users. And if they think their convoluted electron scheme will somehow allow them to step around the various alphabet agencies I think they're in for a rude awakening.
Not? I think that is exactly how it would/could work. You dont have to buy electrons, it is optional, probably using google pay or whatever. It is very common to buy ingame these days. You can buy all kind of stuff, also credits like farmbucks (farmville) or "gold coins" etc. I don't see how electrons would be any different?
There have been big exchanges (like https://www.virwox.com) around for a long time where you can buy/sell all kind of game credits. Not crypto money though. I never heard one of these games getting into trouble with regulation on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Second_Life#Legal_position_of_the_Linden_Dollar
August 31, 2016, 01:44:35 PM
But stakers we 100% a part of the games? Well, Gravity at least.
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Stakers on ionomy.com got nothing to do with actual staking (POS). Those are just PNGs like hashlets/hashstakers. You can tell that by the fact that they have different APRs depending on certain conditions. Actual ION staking is constant and is not even APR-based but a fixed reward per block.
Which is where the electrons come in AFAIK. They make your stakers stake more. That's why it doesn't work with your QT wallet. It's just a thing you add to your PNG to make it shit out more coins from the team's masternodes or the premine or wherever those coins are coming from.
So the game doesn't need to be connected to the blockchain, it just deals in non-crypto tokens, that can be used on a certain website. The whole spiel about making crypto easy to use etc is just a smokescreen IMHO. They could do the same thing with coupons or points or whatever.
Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm not a whale but on the other hand my speculation didn't cost you a bottle of scotch.
Exactly, and to answer your question how to comply with Play Store TOS, there it is ;-) ^
If that's the case then it's not a very bright plan, is it?
Let's say even if it was a hugely popular game, like PVZ or COC, how many players would really bother getting those electrons, register on some site, where they would have to buy some odd crypto currency, lock it up for months, so that they could redeem electrons to get 25% more currency that depreciates 50% in 3 months?
Why not just sell in-game content or ads and pay the profit out as dividend to investors. No hassle for users. And if they think their convoluted electron scheme will somehow allow them to step around the various alphabet agencies I think they're in for a rude awakening.
August 31, 2016, 01:02:34 PM
But stakers we 100% a part of the games? Well, Gravity at least.
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Question: does it have to be stakers? It should work with QT staking wallets as well, to be fair to all. What more does a staker or staking wallet do beyond mint coins?
Stakers on ionomy.com got nothing to do with actual staking (POS). Those are just PNGs like hashlets/hashstakers. You can tell that by the fact that they have different APRs depending on certain conditions. Actual ION staking is constant and is not even APR-based but a fixed reward per block.
Which is where the electrons come in AFAIK. They make your stakers stake more. That's why it doesn't work with your QT wallet. It's just a thing you add to your PNG to make it shit out more coins from the team's masternodes or the premine or wherever those coins are coming from.
So the game doesn't need to be connected to the blockchain, it just deals in non-crypto tokens, that can be used on a certain website. The whole spiel about making crypto easy to use etc is just a smokescreen IMHO. They could do the same thing with coupons or points or whatever.
Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm not a whale but on the other hand my speculation didn't cost you a bottle of scotch.
Exactly, and to answer your question how to comply with Play Store TOS, there it is ;-) ^
August 31, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
48hr VOLUME on Ionomy exchange is 9.5+BTC
IONs are being bought... Thanks to the Ionomy investors/community...
IONs are being bought... Thanks to the Ionomy investors/community...
So instead of fixing the damn number ionomists now have sharkie trying to bend reality:
I believe my number is not bending reality and reflects that IONs are moving at the Ionomy exchange...
Today, the new volume is 6.4+BTC on the Ionomy exchange... ION investors are doing more buying than selling...
Who fucking cares really, no offense
I think he just does it for the lulz. But it really serves no purpose, especially if he calculations are wrong. It is actually just bringing to light incompetence or errors by the team. Not quite the promotion I would go for, but to each their own.
August 31, 2016, 12:56:52 PM
48hr VOLUME on Ionomy exchange is 9.5+BTC
IONs are being bought... Thanks to the Ionomy investors/community...
IONs are being bought... Thanks to the Ionomy investors/community...
So instead of fixing the damn number ionomists now have sharkie trying to bend reality:
I believe my number is not bending reality and reflects that IONs are moving at the Ionomy exchange...
Today, the new volume is 6.4+BTC on the Ionomy exchange... ION investors are doing more buying than selling...
Who fucking cares really, no offense
August 31, 2016, 12:55:40 PM
Here are some images posted on slack of Gravity.
The images are not impressive at all. Not sure about the game play though. But these images don't interest me that much. For all of the delays, I'd expect much better and rich graphics and game levels. This reminds me of Donkey Kong.
They are trying, I'll give them that much. Well, at least it appears something is being produced.
https://imgur.com/a/ONDW6
Not sure how to make them visible here. Maybe someone else can?
The images are not impressive at all. Not sure about the game play though. But these images don't interest me that much. For all of the delays, I'd expect much better and rich graphics and game levels. This reminds me of Donkey Kong.
They are trying, I'll give them that much. Well, at least it appears something is being produced.
https://imgur.com/a/ONDW6
Not sure how to make them visible here. Maybe someone else can?
I think you nailed it, except for the donkey kong. It's just an extensive proof of concept imho. It can eventually grow over time, but it won't bring us Pokemon Go v2. I think you have to adjust expectations if so.
In context of this topic, where 100 pages where about this project being a scam, I think we are making positive progress. One step at a time.
And yes, I would like to see things go live. I dont even care about a few bugs.
Why are you claiming that there are 100 pages saying it's a scam? There are lots of pages saying it's a horrible investment if it isn't a scam. And some of them are the same people that warned about a previous horrible investment that turned out to be a scam.
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