Topic: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! - page 90. (Read 473123 times)

Why Yes! Happy to share. http://www.ninja-creative.com/8-wacky-writing-styles-to-entertain-your-readers/  Fire away! 

Just as expected, loads of cow manure and no mention of the bitcoins you sank into Paycoin and xpy.io PNGs

You never disappoint Sharkie, in the way a non-housebroken dog never disappoints.

I hate to inform you suchmoon but the IONs I am releasing back into the wild have a real cost of free. Therefore my average cost basis is $0.0 and the traded price is pure profit. That's what's so nice about ION being a POS coin and receiving FREE IONs from my Shark Nodes and Staking wallet. I also receive "free" ION coins from my Ionomy LTD stakers and my cost basis is again $0.0. My initial supply of IONs to build my fleet of Shark Nodes were earned from ownership of Atoms rewarded with with FREE IONs. Some of my IONs were purchased at ICO prices. I also added more Shark Nodes when the price of ION dipped to ten cents. The profit from trading the free IONs has given me the chance to clear the loses from previous crypto investments... ION has been a very good investment for me thanks to being an early adopter of the Ionomy Vision!!!

Can anyone inform me what is the stake on 1000ION coins day or weekly?

Rabbit hole is borderline?

Do you have a style guide for DaZuru-approved forum posting? So that I could post derogatory things about it.


You should not use words you don't understand. Makes you look even more of an idiot than your Photoshop or Canadian dollar bullshit. Still waiting for you to post the Australian dollar sign, how is that coming?

Was gonna add that dumb shills like you reflect badly on ION but the fact is - no one outside of the hardcore group of bagholders really cares about it, so it's probably ok. Flaunt the true colors of ionomy with pride. Can't wait to see the new conspiracies you're gonna accuse me of.


Shark always brags about ION gains as if he got it at the ICO price or some other arbitrarily low cost. Therefore the question - what's the real cost basis? I'm not asking how much he owns. E.g I mentioned DCR - if I tell you my average cost basis is $0.374, that doesn't tell you how rich I am or any other personally-sensitive info. And yes, anybody can lie... so the question is mostly rhetorical anyway. He didn't get it at the ICO price, that's the point.

Started thinking about this question, one I think the IRS is pondering as well.   Trades between coins are to be considered taxable, no more pushing the tax burden down the road with trades until you cash out.  Not sure of the best way to record these. Online software I have seen is expensive. CoinTracking.info and CryptoCompare.com seem to be highly rated. If you only make a few trades a spreadsheet. Using a trading bot and hundreds of trades, painful.

Sorry drifted away there. Back to your question, not sure how you would want someone to share their cost basis? I wouldn't want to on an open forum, plus who is to say if it is all made up?  Would almost need a bonded third party to verify account ownership and cost information. Not really worth it for a message board discussion. Maybe an idea for a blockchain solution? I mean if it can work for Kitties....

I agree. Such a nice thing they did for a beat up community. I am very grateful.

True that there are no profits until you cash out. All spreadsheet make believe. I intend to hold, though. Like we sort of discussed, buying and hodling seems the best course of action for the long term. You make a good point about rapid selling of a large amount. Not sure I could impact the current half-a-million volume though. Like most trades, you can't be stupid and just flood the market. With patience you can sell. Just a matter of scale per each respective coin I guess. Still not sure where the whole BTC, BCH, BTG ordeal will go. The technical struggle for BTC will need to be addressed at some point I think. Wish I could predict which coin or coins will dominate 10 years from now. Should be an interesting ride for sure.

Almost got you where you post something without a derogatory comment, the Alice in Wonderland reference is borderline.   Freaking 14 degrees in Texas for New Years...

Ion Jan 1 trading at $3.25 / .00024650btc pretty good when you consider ion is nowhere near it's value potential and Jan 1 last year it was trading at $.09 or .00010011btc

At some point this year like almost all the trolls that were hanging around here 22 months ago you will just disappear.... feel free to make a note of this post and prove me wrong.

About your photoshop snipe at me

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.6143

I hope your attempts in 2018 at subterfuge stay at the same level 

If go down that rabbit hole you need to consider ION's abysmal liquidity for larger amounts (I can buy or dump 10 BTC at any time without moving the market, try that with ION), and also lower rewards for less-than-a-masternode amounts. Not to mention BCH, BTG, and other forks that added probably more than 20% for BTC bagholders last year.

True WildShark, I didn't take into account staking or masternode income. I would need to know the Masternode counts for each month, and estimate from there. I did take a WAG and just used current monthly amounts, so this is WAY off and completely inaccurate, but fun to see how it would compare. I am not going to try and put this in a table.

   1/1/2017   Purchase $   # Coins   12 mth MN Rewards   Total Coins   Price Each 12/31/2017   Value 12/31/2017
BTC   963.06    $5,400           5.61   5.61                   $13,882.20   $77,839.26
ION     0.27    $5,400    20000.00   8687   28687.00   $3.22   $92,372.14

With this completely inaccurate portrayal, Ion beats BTC with Masternode income. This is not purchase advice, just a wild projection on my part.

No, a wise move would have been to "let it go" when you had a chance instead of shilling this shit for years. What's your real cost basis? Thought so.


Not sure how agreeing with me can make your lies any better. Again, if you want a good discussion then stop lying, stop twisting it into your narrative of hate or some other conspiracy against XPY/ION/whatever. There was no conspiracy that made Garza fail, it was a scam. There is no conspiracy that's making ionomy fail, and the jury's still out on whether it's a slow-moving scam or a slow-moving shitshow of incompetence.

I didn't pick a random time to suit me, I based it off your statement: "There are plenty of coins with more liquidity, less risk, and consequently better returns. E.g. if you put your money into a basket of top 10 coins (by marketcap) a year ago you'd be better off today. It takes a special kind of shitcoin to underperform this bubble and congrats - you found it."  I am sure we could pick the best and worst dates to prove any point. I agreed with you that BTC was a better investment, at the one year mark. I also did not allude to everyone buying at that time. I also pointed out that "I think Ion is doing alright considering it getting pretty close to Btc's performance, but just my opinion." This states by reference, and by the chart, that BTC is better, but Ion is far from a "shitcoin", in my opinion. Don't trust internet opinions.  I don't think you read the parts where I agree with you?

The "trueness of Bitcoin"? I may need enlightenment on that, never heard that phrase before. I do understand Bitcoin, limited supply, huge power cost, slow execution times, etc. It needs to solve a few challenges. Yes you can use USD values, if you know the value of BTC/USD at the point in question. They don't have to have USD pairs if you know the Coin/BTC exchange rate and the BTC/USD rate at a given time. In regards to tainting the market, there has been concerns regarding Bitcoin and market manipulation (one article: WSJ: Bitcoin Futures Manipulation 101: How ‘Banging the Close’ Works), so I don't think any coin is safe from whales doing what they do.

I don't think the improve percentage takes into account  the "free" coins a user receives from staking the ION coin via wallet or Masternode



Please note that the projected income will drop in 115 days...

I think is quite clear that BTC is the top performer in compared to any altcoin for Year 2017. How does ION performance compare in Dollars  for this same period of time?

1/1/2017   12/31/2017   %
Bitcoin   $963.06    $13,882.20   1441%
Ethereum   $8.26    $763.79    9247%
Ripple   $0.01    $2.24    34251%
Litecoin   $4.37    $229.53    5252%
Dash   $11.26    $1,043.70    9269%
Monero   $13.58    347.36   2558%
Ion   $0.27    3.22   1192%
PC/XPY     ?          ?    <1 %

Can anyone provide the  percentage Paycon coin has improved done for this period of time? I'm guessing that the number is less than a percent... where as ION is 1192%. Is XPY even listed on any exchange?

The wisest move I made was to trade in my XPY for ION and ride the ION rocket for the last two year!!!

I've not had any trouble with Bittrex, but I have seen posts of people having trouble. I try not to keep anything online except what I need to take care of a task. That is the only exchange with Ion. I believe Ionomy is working on their exchange.  A Masternode currently generates roughly 723.21 Ions a month and there are 472 of them. That is 341,355.12 Ion per month. The masternode count was 448 on October 2, 2017. If someone sells their Masternode, that is 20,000 Ions.

I guess the part where I agreed with you was not enough? Bunch of lies? You can hang onto your hate for PC and GAW and Garza, I let it go. Life is too short to let evil people bring you down. I had hoped for a good exchange of information here, looks like it is not going to happen. I do appreciate the thought of comparing coins for a year back, though. I will try and hodl more!  I wish you well and hope your year is fantastic.

I think their own exchange is disabled, you can only buy (but not sell) IONs through their Shapeshift API. There is also an interesting question that no one wants to ask - where are those IONs coming from. But that's a different story.

And Bittrex is doing a Cryptsy... locking withdrawals and pretending it's due to KYC.


You're the one who brought up a bunch of lies and now I need to let go because you don't like it being pointed out? You seem to have learned this debate technique from the Grand Paycoiner himself. Lie, lie, lie, deny, deny, deny... As I said above (and you didn't like that either) - the attitude is the problem.

your stats dont reflect the trueness of bitcoin.

you cant use usd values of all. at the begnning you spent x bitcoin to get ion, monero and dash. they dont have usd pairs. if you want to be true you need to calculate a starting usd in btc then show growth in that amount for all.

next you’ve picked a point in time that works for you. it might be your chosen buy sell time but it doesnt show all. ion floated at ico over double its satoshi value it is now. compared to btc holding value thats a huge lose in profit. you are speaking from fact like everyone bought at 1/1/2017 this is not true... are you ignoring that those buying at 45000 sat lost value holding compared to btc?

the truth is holding btc value was better than buying ion... this is fact are you denying that?

can you do your table again compared in btc value starting ion ico date? i can repost my stats if you like. id be interested to see if you agree and why or why not.

ion is on 1 exchange... 2 if you count their own. i wouldnt because any coin that runs its own market can taint it so it should be ignored.

if bittrex folds or fails where is ion? its only on bittrex because they paid the btc fee. its not there on its merits.

You need to let it go. It is over for me. Read them, hope he gets everything coming to him. I agree with you. Not whitewashing anything. My dealings with him in the beginning were good. Not so much after. Not really relevant to Ion, IMO. My numbers above are relevant when comparing the performance of Ion to Btc and other coins as you suggested. Btc and Ion purchased on 1-1-17 and sold today would net 1441%, and 1192%, respectfully. Not counting Masternode proceeds. Your comment about DCR rang true for me as well, dual mining, like getting little Christmas presents.

I'm sorry, I can't let the blatant lie go. Hashlets were a ponzi scheme. It's well documented - I suggest you read the SEC case documents. Paycoin was a cover-up intended to hide the losses from the ponzi. There was nothing good at the start, the middle, or the end of it. Why are you trying to whitewash established facts?