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Topic: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin | Fair Launch | Daily Updates | 8/9 Status Update - page 89. (Read 188824 times)

newbie
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But keycoin launched anonymity feature that can be "broken" with just eyeballing the blockchain and with piece of paper and pencil (again assuming that post is true - I haven't checked for myself because anon feature doesn't work in my wallet). You don't even have to have access to the source code of the mixer or to the protocol specs.

This just shows that developers may grossly underestimate intelligence of the people that may be interested in this coin. They obviously think that the "sheep" will "buy" any kind of anonymity that they're trying to "sell".

That's a pretty big accusation there for a guy who hasn't checked anything himself and is only relying on a reddit post.  I understand that criticism is good, but no need to say things like that about the devs.  Like others have said, keycoin is new.  So time will tell.

Ok, I agree. But I can't check anything for myself because the anonymity doesn't work in my client and other people seem to have similar problems.
sr. member
Activity: 391
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But keycoin launched anonymity feature that can be "broken" with just eyeballing the blockchain and with piece of paper and pencil (again assuming that post is true - I haven't checked for myself because anon feature doesn't work in my wallet). You don't even have to have access to the source code of the mixer or to the protocol specs.

This just shows that developers may grossly underestimate intelligence of the people that may be interested in this coin. They obviously think that the "sheep" will "buy" any kind of anonymity that they're trying to "sell".

That's a pretty big accusation there for a guy who hasn't checked anything himself and is only relying on a reddit post.  I understand that criticism is good, but no need to say things like that about the devs.  Like others have said, keycoin is new.  So time will tell.
hero member
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Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?

This coin is brand new.  Even if that post is 100% true we are in the infant stages of the coin.  Progress will be what drives this coin.  My target is roughly 200k.


Yeah, these are certainly infant stages of this coin. But devs said that anon was done. So why did developers launch anonymity feature if it clearly doesn't work (assuming this reddit post is 100% correct)? Did they at least test it? Did someone at least review their solution and concepts behind it?



The method outlined in that reddit post seems incorrect based upon my own test but it does sound like the wallet in question only had a single input to begin with.

In my case it spent the final amount in 3 completely separate random values in the first instance, these were spent from 3 completely separate inputs received by 3 completely separate wallet addresses on my client.

Is it possible to find where the coins came from by looking back in the blockchain and adding up smaller values trying to find the original wallet address(es)? I'd have to say, perhaps. But trying to figure this out will get much harder when there are a lot of transactions moving around.

One area of improvement the developers could look to undertake would be to create 3 separate deposit addresses for the account that the randomized values go to. That way there is no record of the 3 randomized values going to the exact same deposit address but they will still go to the exact same account.
full member
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They obviously think that the "sheep" will "buy" any kind of anonymity that they're trying to "sell".

Already advised them to look into a different niche with this coin.. Don't think they will listen
newbie
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Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?

This coin is brand new.  Even if that post is 100% true we are in the infant stages of the coin.  Progress will be what drives this coin.  My target is roughly 200k.

I'm no software engineer, but what this reddit post tells me, is the only person who can use this method to see who sent the money is the person that received the money.  The whole point of anon is so that OTHERS cannot decipher who you sent the money to.  But again, this coin is 2 weeks old.  There is plenty of time for growth without you trying to panic crypt, xc, and key investors.


Yeah, these are certainly infant stages of this coin. But devs said that anon was done. So why did developers launch anonymity feature if it clearly doesn't work (assuming this reddit post is 100% correct)? Did they at least test it? Did someone at least review their solution and concepts behind it?

Darkcoin, xc, crypt, monero, They all offer anon tech that hasn't been proven to be uncrackable.  These products are still in development.




Yes, I know that they're still in development. And there is nothing wrong with this.

But keycoin launched anonymity feature that can be "broken" with just eyeballing the blockchain and with piece of paper and pencil (again assuming that post is true - I haven't checked for myself because anon feature doesn't work in my wallet). You don't even have to have access to the source code of the mixer or to the protocol specs.

This just shows that developers may grossly underestimate intelligence of the people that may be interested in this coin. They obviously think that the "sheep" will "buy" any kind of anonymity that they're trying to "sell".


full member
Activity: 125
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Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?

This coin is brand new.  Even if that post is 100% true we are in the infant stages of the coin.  Progress will be what drives this coin.  My target is roughly 200k.

I'm no software engineer, but what this reddit post tells me, is the only person who can use this method to see who sent the money is the person that received the money.  The whole point of anon is so that OTHERS cannot decipher who you sent the money to.  But again, this coin is 2 weeks old.  There is plenty of time for growth without you trying to panic crypt, xc, and key investors.


Yeah, these are certainly infant stages of this coin. But devs said that anon was done. So why did developers launch anonymity feature if it clearly doesn't work (assuming this reddit post is 100% correct)? Did they at least test it? Did someone at least review their solution and concepts behind it?

Darkcoin, xc, crypt, monero, They all offer anon tech that hasn't been proven to be uncrackable.  These products are still in development.



newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?

This coin is brand new.  Even if that post is 100% true we are in the infant stages of the coin.  Progress will be what drives this coin.  My target is roughly 200k.


Yeah, these are certainly infant stages of this coin. But devs said that anon was done. So why did developers launch anonymity feature if it clearly doesn't work (assuming this reddit post is 100% correct)? Did they at least test it? Did someone at least review their solution and concepts behind it?

full member
Activity: 125
Merit: 100
Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?

This coin is brand new.  Even if that post is 100% true we are in the infant stages of the coin.  Progress will be what drives this coin.  My target is roughly 200k.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Did you see this reddit FUD post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2btj6m/reasons_why_keycoin_anonymity_doesnt_work/

Can someone explain how anonymity in KEYCOIN works?

Do you think that this post was written by this FUD group:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28hqu3/warning_to_all_anonymous_coins_promoters_and/

Or was this written by devs of some competing coin (DarkCoin)?
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
My Grandma uses KeyCoin anonymous sending to book her shady holidays!

Love you Nana!

hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Why Us  Gov  decides so fast to addopt BTC ?   Anyone ever wonder? They are so afraid of Anon coins , and maybe decide to take "the smaller problem " , by makin some rules  , like this one : http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-bitcoin-may-one-day-split-into-black-and-white-coins And  ATM  the best one on the market is KEY - and we all know , that the first ones almost always wins  Wink

sorry to ruin your party but: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-what-anonymous-coin-will-succed-568166

nice marketing dough but I would suffice a different niche

HA! Let's get this party started!
At least one guy in here is a visionary!

Cast ur vote…
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-what-anonymous-coin-will-succed-568166

UPDATE: 3 Visionaries  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Not really knowing much about this coin's technology, I am reluctant to support it just yet. At least I think the name is great (but hey what's is a name). I couldn't help but notice the logos the dev had posted, it seems more obvious to drop the keyhole right into the work "keycoin"... I would also change that font on "security is key" looks pretty janky.

sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Looking for more information about keycoin. What is the anon solution implemented for keycoin, and what sets it apart from other anon coins on the market (especially darkcoin, cloak, xc)?

Edit: is there a white paper?

TIA
newbie
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i have some bad news for the dev team if theyre considering using TailsOS with key

http://thehackernews.com/2014/07/tails-operating-system-zero-day-vulnerabilities_23.html

from the article
Quote
The critical zero-day security flaws, discovered in the privacy and security dedicated Linux-based Tails operating system by the researcher at Exodus Intelligence that could help attackers or law enforcements to de-anonymize anyone’s identity, actually lie in the I2P software that’s bundled with the Operating System.

That is for version 1.1 Beta and Under

https://tails.boum.org/security/Security_hole_in_I2P_0.9.13/index.pt.html

Patched Security Holes
https://tails.boum.org/security/index.en.html

screenshot of V1 as I no longer have 1.1 Beta's
http://gyazo.com/41f2b5d7effa422c1bfddf5fc7ce57ba


TOR must be Fudders best freind , 1 click away from IP change and you can switch to an new acount on the fly and keep on posting


the hole I was referring to has not been patched, and is listed under current holes
newbie
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i have some bad news for the dev team if theyre considering using TailsOS with key

http://thehackernews.com/2014/07/tails-operating-system-zero-day-vulnerabilities_23.html

from the article
Quote
The critical zero-day security flaws, discovered in the privacy and security dedicated Linux-based Tails operating system by the researcher at Exodus Intelligence that could help attackers or law enforcements to de-anonymize anyone’s identity, actually lie in the I2P software that’s bundled with the Operating System.

That is for version 1.1 Beta and Under

https://tails.boum.org/security/Security_hole_in_I2P_0.9.13/index.pt.html

Patched Security Holes
https://tails.boum.org/security/index.en.html

screenshot of V1 as I no longer have 1.1 Beta's
http://gyazo.com/41f2b5d7effa422c1bfddf5fc7ce57ba


TOR must be Fudders best freind , 1 click away from IP change and you can switch to an new acount on the fly and keep on posting

*edit* and as I linked just as simple as removing I2P

I am pretty sure the KEY team is going to be using TOR network and not I2P network
member
Activity: 65
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So basically this coin is "anonymous" like all the others? Good pump, then final slow dump.
This is the only coin , which delivers something different .but other ones!

What is the something different that it offers?
You want a full list ?............Get TF out of here ASAP .....or maybe read previous pages  Huh

Something proven innovative. Not the whole list crackhead. And I read the previous page too, here is their quote from the website:

"The current landscape of cryptocurrency is chaotic, with investors and users not sure which new projects to support."

The devs seem to understand, you don't. Thanks for the help though.
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
So basically this coin is "anonymous" like all the others? Good pump, then final slow dump.

Yes the devs just built the website and are working on many new projects for Key. It has a much smaller market cap and price per coin than other altcoins (that have nothing but promises), even though Key has an anon solution and a limited 915,000 coins.

But sure, it's dead already.. give me a break.

Thank you. Not trying to spread FUD. At the moment there seems to be a number of coins (2-4) claiming good anonymity solutions. I thought key might have a better solution, but I am not certain.   
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
So basically this coin is "anonymous" like all the others? Good pump, then final slow dump.

Yes the devs just built the website and are working on many new projects for Key. It has a much smaller market cap and price per coin than other altcoins (that have nothing but promises), even though Key has an anon solution and a limited 915,000 coins.

But sure, it's dead already.. give me a break.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
So basically this coin is "anonymous" like all the others? Good pump, then final slow dump.
This is the only coin , which delivers something different .but other ones!

What is the something different that it offers?
You want a full list ?............Get TF out of here ASAP .....or maybe read previous pages  Huh
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
So basically this coin is "anonymous" like all the others? Good pump, then final slow dump.
This is the only coin , which delivers something different .but other ones!

What is the something different that it offers?
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