Crunck, OK, Sorry that I didn't see that deposit, and yes I see that you did get the tips to me. (Had I known that the funds would be moved in December, not November, I'd have used a different address, since we had been talking only in email & on IRC I sorta thought you would notify me on those, as I'd asked.) We still don't have the ldoge web site "keys" or forum "keys" though; I don't do forums much, moving in & organizing so I just plain do not have time for BCT.
Mr_Sheesh, you (the dev team as you call it) are unbelievable. You have plenty of time to blab around on IRC, while you don't have time to check one frigging post on BCT. Like it or not, the IRC is not where the community will check when they want something, for hundreds of reasons you have no idea of, because you are always on IRC. And, don't forget,
a post on this thread stays on this thread for everyone to read, making everything transparent.Main fact is this: The dev team is not happy, here is why;
(Past history) You had said that you weren't interested in upkeeping the web site or forum and were interested in turning those over to us. (fast forward to heathkid's post 2 pages ago) we still didn't have control of the web site or the forum or as far as we knew the funds. And didn't know what your plans were, just that you'd said one thing then not done (As far as we knew) any of it. The dev team has been feeling high centered, that gets us pretty frustrated and ticked off. (fast forward to today) we still don't have the forum or web site 'keys'...
Guys, you are one of a kind. What makes you think you own the coin?
Who the heck do you think that kept this coin alive when it was forking every two frigging blocks and the original dev deserted it?
First of all,
the forum is here. BCT forums are the only ones every exchange and every sane person is checking for every coin. You know of course that a coin doesn't get added on any exchange without having a proper thread on bitcointalk.org, don't you?
Second, having the dev team maintain the website and any forum is a bad bad
bad idea. Because it will distract you from the dev work and because you shouldn't have full control over the coin, just as simple as that. Do your job and let others do theirs, unless you want a coin used exclusively by yourselves.
If you read carefully what heathkid said there, he's saying in effect "If crunck doesn't turn the funds over, he's stolen them"; Considering that Oct. 12th was when I started emailing you, asking for the funds, web site, and forum to be turned over to us, then Oct 20th I emailed you again, you replied that you had the funds & would turn them over. Then Dec 12th the funds were turned over; almost 2 months later, and no email, no IRC PM, and the transaction was into a "scrap" address that I don't check often, and, it was an unsigned transaction. TBH I thought it was someone else entirely's funds, seems not though; I'd sort of given up on getting ANYTHING from you.
I am sorry that you felt you were called out here, but, please do note that you didn't do as you said, and didn't communicate to us about it in any way we use...
Then, you need a reality check. Stop flying high among your IRC clouds.
First, crunck made a
mistake by promising you to hand over the funds and the website,
without consulting the community first. What makes you think we would agree with this?
Second, he sends the funds to the address
YOU gave to him and posts a message on this thread, giving all details to be transparent. Otherwise we would have no idea who has the donations.
Or is this what you really wanted, was it?We STILL do need a web site for the coin, it IS still in development, AND the dev team mainly meets on IRC, not on BCT; IRC is a fast way to communicate, almost as fast as LDoge transactions
So: how do you explain the time lag for this all? If you were a dev. for LDoge, would you be happy at a month+ delay in being able to update the coin's official web site or manage it's forum; How would you be feeling right now?
I suspect we'll just have to register a different site, sad to say.
No, you won't. I will personally make sure that you (the dev team) will have no chance on taking up a proper site and I have the means to secure it. You may come here on BCT and say what you have to say.
IRC may be a fast way to communicate but it is not transparent and not for everyone. Plus that, everything everyone is saying there, is thin air because nobody can go back and read it if he wasn't there when it was said.
Again, anyone wanting to reach us quickly can catch us on Freenode IRC, in channel #LiteDoge. We will see what happens.
Forget it.
IRC caused too many problems already. It was the main reason so many good people moved on to something else, because a handful of blabbers were spreading FUD about them. Do I have to remind you what happened with d57heinz, MinerFTW, maincoin, litedoge and now crunck ? Who is going to be next guys?