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Topic: [ANN] microCoin MRC - alcurEX - Scrypt-Jane - nFactor - page 88. (Read 374705 times)

full member
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Great..  Well, count me as a 30,000,000 MRC bag holder then.  Sadly the 1 sat per MRC is still better than mining any other coin at the moment.
legendary
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wow this huge of dumps and low price right before Alcurex comes out? I almost don't even feel bad for those people. just wish I had btc on the market. anxiety is going to cost people lots of money. this is like selling btc years ago for $2.00 ea or w/e it was. lol. $60k pizza, best fN pizza ever brah!
I wonder this dump. This is worst moment for sell.
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wow this huge of dumps and low price right before Alcurex comes out? I almost don't even feel bad for those people. just wish I had btc on the market. anxiety is going to cost people lots of money. this is like selling btc years ago for $2.00 ea or w/e it was. lol. $60k pizza, best fN pizza ever brah!
legendary
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Big dump on poloniex as well...28,000,000  Shocked
legendary
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lol im guessing whoever sold all these micro just put a huge buy in at the same time trying to double up before the pump.
hope it bites him or her in the ass and the buys just shoot up to 3
legendary
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wow just got back and someone has sold 8 BTC worth on mintpal..... get in while the gettings good
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Scrypt-Jane can be a lot of 'fun'. 

I have 8 identical MSI R9-270's between 3 systems (4,2,2) and each system requires quite different miner values to run stable and maximize hash without HW error....no easy copy paste, each require testing.  I still haven't got the 3rd system with just 2 cards running stable....keeps rebooting every 10min-1hour.  Seems there must be more interaction with the rest of the computer hardware than with Scrypt.

System1(4x R9-270) Avg78khash/s - I12 TC 16384 g1 w256 mem1200 engine1100 (last N was I16 TC11263 1250 1125 190khash/s)

System2(Main Desktop - 2x R9-270) Avg75khash/s - I12 TC17408 g1 w256 mem1100 engine 1100 (last N was I17 TC11263 1200 1125 185khash/s)

If I use System1 settings on System2 -> HW errors and eventual SICK gpus.  if I uses System2 settings on System1 instant system crash/freeze.  System3 runs fine using System1 or System2 for a bit then just suddenly reboots not freeze so still tweaking.  Weird.  No issues with crash/freeze/reboots until this last N change.

I also have 1 system of 4x 7950.  that one I just changed I16 ->I12 and its happy...but only making 78khash/s so not as efficient as the R9-270.  they were making ~250khash previous N.  Maybe needs adjusting of TC to get more hash?

this nfactor was the first I had to change settings at. my new bat for 3x Gigabyte windforce 270x and 1x xfx dual dissipation 270 is now:   --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 --queue 0 --scan-time 2 --expiry 4 --no-submit-stale -w 256 --gpu-memclock 1500,1500,1500,1400 --gpu-engine 1100,1100,1100,1100 -g 1 -I 16,16,16,16 --thread-concurrency 21568,21568,21568,21568 --temp-cutoff 90 --auto-gpu   

this time around I had to change gpu engines down 15mhz but only on the 3x gigabyte 270x's. Im not sure if that did it, but I also changed my TC on the 3x 270x from 16000 to 21568. ended up being able to leave my -I the same and has been very stable. ( the xfx card is not NEARLY as stable as the gigabyte. im using one in my gaming pc atm also and mine on the side w/it till I get Linux, but it crashdumps and has driver has stopped responding errors all the time! the gigabyte 270x and my GeForce 480 gtx NEVER have had an issue. Ever. Running 4 clients of MMOs and music, + more abuse. Hell I could PLAY Aion on -i12-14 ,no lag, and still get half hash power! cant even load client now with xfx 270 while mining)  hash rates are for the moment at around 92,92,92,91. I could get them higher but whats 20 kh total if your pc crashes every couple hours. more tweaking to do I suppose
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Scrypt-Jane can be a lot of 'fun'.  

I have 8 identical MSI R9-270's between 3 systems (4,2,2) and each system requires quite different miner values to run stable and maximize hash without HW error....no easy copy paste, each require testing.  I still haven't got the 3rd system with just 2 cards running stable....keeps rebooting every 10min-1hour.  Seems there must be more interaction with the rest of the computer hardware than with Scrypt.

System1(4x R9-270) Avg78khash/s - I12 TC 16384 g1 w256 mem1200 engine1100 (last N was I16 TC11263 1250 1125 190khash/s)

System2(Main Desktop - 2x R9-270) Avg75khash/s - I12 TC17408 g1 w256 mem1100 engine 1100 (last N was I17 TC11263 1200 1125 185khash/s)

If I use System1 settings on System2 -> HW errors and eventual SICK gpus.  if I uses System2 settings on System1 instant system crash/freeze.  System3 runs fine using System1 or System2 for a bit then just suddenly reboots not freeze so still tweaking.  Weird.  No issues with crash/freeze/reboots until this last N change.

I also have 1 system of 4x 7950.  that one I just changed I16 ->I12 and its happy...but only making 78khash/s so not as efficient as the R9-270.  they were making ~250khash previous N.  Maybe needs adjusting of TC to get more hash?

For ASUS R9 270X I use the following config string:
--intensity 11 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 10000 --worksize 256 --gpu-engine 1260 --gpu-memclock 1400 --temp-cutoff 85

It gives 82 KHs, was 200-210 KHs with last N.

For 7950 I use the following:
--intensity 12 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 16384 --worksize 256 --gpu-engine 1150 --gpu-memclock 1400 --temp-cutoff 85

It gives 110 KHs comparing to 250 with last N.

Those configurations are result of quite a long testing with different I, TC, g and lookup-gap.

Please let me know if it worked for you.
legendary
Activity: 912
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Scrypt-Jane can be a lot of 'fun'. 

I have 8 identical MSI R9-270's between 3 systems (4,2,2) and each system requires quite different miner values to run stable and maximize hash without HW error....no easy copy paste, each require testing.  I still haven't got the 3rd system with just 2 cards running stable....keeps rebooting every 10min-1hour.  Seems there must be more interaction with the rest of the computer hardware than with Scrypt.

System1(4x R9-270) Avg78khash/s - I12 TC 16384 g1 w256 mem1200 engine1100 (last N was I16 TC11263 1250 1125 190khash/s)

System2(Main Desktop - 2x R9-270) Avg75khash/s - I12 TC17408 g1 w256 mem1100 engine 1100 (last N was I17 TC11263 1200 1125 185khash/s)

If I use System1 settings on System2 -> HW errors and eventual SICK gpus.  if I uses System2 settings on System1 instant system crash/freeze.  System3 runs fine using System1 or System2 for a bit then just suddenly reboots not freeze so still tweaking.  Weird.  No issues with crash/freeze/reboots until this last N change.

I also have 1 system of 4x 7950.  that one I just changed I16 ->I12 and its happy...but only making 78khash/s so not as efficient as the R9-270.  they were making ~250khash previous N.  Maybe needs adjusting of TC to get more hash?
legendary
Activity: 1582
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..... no he was just saying that there are only half as many blocks being found so half the reward until the difficulty adjusts for the smaller hash rate
full member
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What do you mean who? There are just less coins generated now. That is the whole point - the N factor slows the coin mining encouraging trading and spending of the coin rather than mining and piling up coins

I mean that every 32 seconds the network discovers a block which costs roughly 155000.
On average, everybody gets their share in the same proportion as their speed divided by network hash rate.

For example, lets say yesterday network hash rate was 1 GHs and my hash rate was 1 Mhs.
That means that on average I was getting 155000/1000=155 MRC every 32 seconds.

Lets say today network hashrate is 450MHs.
Guess how much coins would I earn if my hash rate dropped to 450 KHs?

If I'm getting 70 MRC instead of 155 - that means that my hashrate in proportion to the network is not 1/1000 anymore.
Which means that somebody else had managed to get their speed higher.

zerxus, this only proofs that you are bad in math - for the last n-factor your hash power was 1/1000th of the network, for the current n-factor your hash power remains the same 1/1000th of the network, so i don't see any difference Smiley

Or may be it proves that you didn't get what I was trying to say.
Read last two sentences again.
newbie
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Hello Guys,

For those of you who have HW errors with the new N-factor:

HD7950 (1044/1500) ~100khs

setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNC_OBJECTS 1
ultracoinminer -o stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337 -u xxx -p xxx --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 -w 256 -g 2 -I 12 --thread-concurrency 16384 --no-submit-stale --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0

HD7970/280x (1044/1500) ~135khs(280x)

setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNC_OBJECTS 1
microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://xxx -u xxx -p xxx --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879 -w 256 -g 2 -I 12 --thread-concurrency 16384 --no-submit-stale --lookup-gap 2 --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0

R9 290 8GB RAM (1040/1400) ~180khs

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://xxx -u xxx -p xxx --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879  -w 64 -g 1 -I 18 --thread-concurrency 45000 --no-submit-stale --lookup-gap 2 --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0

R9 290 4GB/6GB RAM (1040/1400) ~140khs

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
microCoinminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://xxx -u xxx -p xxx --scrypt --Nfmin 4 --Nfmax 30 --StartT 1389028879  -w 64 -g 1 -I 18 --thread-concurrency 42000 --no-submit-stale --lookup-gap 3 --expiry 10 --scan-time 1 --queue 0




What's the conf line for 7850 1G ? I only get 35Khs which is 1/4 hash of before.
 
sr. member
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Soo what are people able to get with their cards?

Im running 130Khash on each of my 280X cards

Some of em use Thread-concurrency 16384, I 12
While some other use Thread-concurrency 16384, I 12 AND lookup-gap 3 (to avoid hw errors)

Card clocks are 1080/1000

Anyone able to run any more stable?
sr. member
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Is there CPU miner for microCoin?
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I didn't mean cpu's coming in now would be good, I mean when block reward is 1,000 and all of us have probably started mining another coin, unless MRC does extremely well and is worth mining at a 5 or so reward per block (after pool payouts). If that's the case ill be a certified whale  Cool

I hope they make the POS very strong kinda like mint coin in this case. Hell I hope they make it strong POS anyway maybe then miners would have incentive not to sell over 300 million coins at 3 satoshi
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I didn't mean cpu's coming in now would be good, I mean when block reward is 1,000 and all of us have probably started mining another coin, unless MRC does extremely well and is worth mining at a 5 or so reward per block (after pool payouts). If that's the case ill be a certified whale  Cool
legendary
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have to say.... despite this coin consistantly losing me money, I still think it is the most well developed big reward coin out there
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Everyone gets the same piece of the pie as before, right?

right...

network diff has already lowered to 1.37 at the moment an is still descending....  let the network diff settle to a almost constant level and then your reward will be at least the same again....

only bad thing is, that the network diff changes so slowly....  it will be app. 1 whole day to descend for the new n-Factor...
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What do you mean who? There are just less coins generated now. That is the whole point - the N factor slows the coin mining encouraging trading and spending of the coin rather than mining and piling up coins

I mean that every 32 seconds the network discovers a block which costs roughly 155000.
On average, everybody gets their share in the same proportion as their speed divided by network hash rate.

For example, lets say yesterday network hash rate was 1 GHs and my hash rate was 1 Mhs.
That means that on average I was getting 155000/1000=155 MRC every 32 seconds.

Lets say today network hashrate is 450MHs.
Guess how much coins would I earn if my hash rate dropped to 450 KHs?

If I'm getting 70 MRC instead of 155 - that means that my hashrate in proportion to the network is not 1/1000 anymore.
Which means that somebody else had managed to get their speed higher.

zerxus, this only proofs that you are bad in math - for the last n-factor your hash power was 1/1000th of the network, for the current n-factor your hash power remains the same 1/1000th of the network, so i don't see any difference Smiley

Everyone gets the same piece of the pie as before, right?
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This is a good thing!

Yes,  you will have to adjust some of your miner settings,  lower TC, adjust settings etc.  But what just happend was MRC just became much "MUCH" harder to mine.  And essentially ASIC resistant for the next-long-while.

I think this is a turning point for MRC.   Nfactor is how to keep GPU's and thus "US" in the battle!



There is no ASIC miners that are designed for scrypt-jane. Basically this coin is becoming gpu resistant not ASIC resistant. What the devs should have done was activate the Nfactor when actual ASICs start being deployed for this kind of coin. Please don't tell me about how cpu mining is going to help this coin out because it's not. There are already a lot of cpu mined coins out there and theres a greater disparity of wealth with those types of coins as compaired to gpu mining.
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