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Topic: [ANN] [MINT] Mintcoin (POS / 5%) [NO ICO] [Fair distro, community maintained] - page 230. (Read 1369788 times)

legendary
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One coin to rule them all
Also, price is finally over the 4 satoshi sell wall.

Well, I do not know the grand scheme of what is going on, but volume has slow by steady increased everyday, since Cryptomommy became captain of the ship.
Nice to see, coin seam to recover.

To my fellow minter's, remember:
Theoden: Who am I, Gamling?
Gamling: You are our king, sire.
Theoden: And do you trust your king?
Gamling: Your men, my Lord, will follow you to whatever end.
Theoden: To whatever end...
newbie
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Also, price is finally over the 4 satoshi sell wall.
newbie
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People bought into this investment because of the current terms, if you would like something different the thing to do is create your own coin, fitting your exact specifications. Changing the interest rate and coin cap in the middle of the game will just make all major holders dump so it's not going to affect the price in a positive manner to do so. It's naive to think that these changes will make the price suddenly spring from the dead.

If i decide not to dump I'll be staying with v1.10 and not following forks that change the parameters of MINT.

if anyone wants to join me in supporting the original blockchain they are welcome to

I agree, I think we should stick with the original parameters. Sure, the whole block list is slow to download, but instead of slowing down transaction time to make up for that, why not find a way to speed up the download instead? Nodes maybe?
sr. member
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People bought into this investment because of the current terms, if you would like something different the thing to do is create your own coin, fitting your exact specifications. Changing the interest rate and coin cap in the middle of the game will just make all major holders dump so it's not going to affect the price in a positive manner to do so. It's naive to think that these changes will make the price suddenly spring from the dead.

If i decide not to dump I'll be staying with v1.10 and not following forks that change the parameters of MINT.

if anyone wants to join me in supporting the original blockchain they are welcome to
sr. member
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The discussion about the PoS rates is interesting, personally I think that if you think the rate is too high then you should just wait until it drops.. Mintcoin might take off in value nine months from now for example, and if you find out about it then and buy some, then you are buying in when 15% is the nominal rate. When it's 5% just think how much could be accomplished by that stage.

I believe you're making a dangerous assumption - that the coin will be around 9 months from now if some action isn't taken soon.
hero member
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The discussion about the PoS rates is interesting, personally I think that if you think the rate is too high then you should just wait until it drops.. Mintcoin might take off in value nine months from now for example, and if you find out about it then and buy some, then you are buying in when 15% is the nominal rate. When it's 5% just think how much could be accomplished by that stage.
sr. member
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if you reduce number of total coins price will go up.or reduce stake.and demand will be higher..

Also new features and promotions and support of community

lm holding 1 mil , l like this coin..

You are Correct: There would be a short term spike in prices.

Example: Mintcoin is reversed split by 4 and the POS rate is now 1% , so your 1 million coins are now only 250,000 and each coin is worth 4 times as much, so a few investors buy in pumping up the price , but there capital is absorbed within 2 or 3 weeks and then the price is back where it was and starting to drop, and the interest is so low that anything else is seen as a better investment, so they sell out trying not to lose their entire investment and dropping the price even lower. 1 Month out your coins are lowered than they were originally and with such low interest , you know you won't be able to get your money back, so you trade what is left of your mintcoins for another coin with a higher POS.
And MintCoin Dies.  Cry Cry Cry Cry

We have to build an economy for Mintcoin , where it has value thru virtual goods at first and then as the price rises Physical Goods. Then We Can all Be Happy.
 Cool
Just for the record, there has been no suggestion of a rollback or reverse split. At least that I'm aware of.

Limiting the approximate eventual coin cap (+ 1.5% in perpetuity) has nothing to do with rolling the coin back/reverse split.

- this is correct - no discussions of a rollback!
sr. member
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Nice to see you again good sir! Let me know when you are ready to jump back on the team. We have some really great things coming up and could use your help.

Regarding changing the coin -
We need to have this conversation and address investor issues - whether it be through education such as posting a crypto currency - economics learning center, social campaigns or maybe even re-evaluating the logic of the coin to maintain the current PoS rates but reflect adaptation to market changes.

I am not a financial expert nor a language programmer. The survey numbers represented mindsets - not actual numbers - I am calculating the communities overall feelings towards the current coin.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-PPQNVHF8/
Here are the survey results - thank you everyone for participating.

Everything seems to support the coin except for two areas - the 70,000,000,000 and maintaining the coin after that number has been reached.
The community is saying I love this! but I am afraid that there will be too many of them and I will lose my investment.

Now it is our job to figure out how we are going to improve on this area of perception and if needed modifications.

Hello all. I'm stepping out of my stealth mode to give my 2Mintcoin opinion on this.

The 70 billion cap will not be reached for at least 40 years I'll most likely be dead by then, so it has never been a problem with me.

The current interest scheme is very reasonable and is the main reason I got into Mintcoin in the first place. Leave it the way it is.

The BIGGEST problem Mintcoin has always had, was the 700 MILLION Mintcoin Premine. This is the main reason the coin never took off. I truly believe that the Dev was always to tired and never wanted to improve the coin, because he was so busy trading 700 MILLION coins at 50 some exchanges. I can just imagine how much time and effort it took to accomplish that feat.

The most important thing to do with Mintcoin, is to start DEVELOPING features for the coin. Upgrade the wallet would be the first thing. I've said it before, and I'm going to say it again.... HAVE A LOOK AT SILKCOINS WALLET.....

Get the Android Wallet into use. This has gone on long enough. If Paspi can't complete it, find someone who can....simple as that...

I've also said it before, and again I'm going to say it again... Check into having Mintcoin included into http://keepod.org/ and have each one of their USB devices have 10,000 Mintcoins to start them off with. (This does need the Android Wallet)

All the other things you guys are talking about will require a HARD FORK and that is a VERY VERY VERY bad thing to do. Look at Saturncoin...they hard forked and reduced the total supply of coins, then exchanged 1000 old Saturncoins for 1 new Sat2 coin....that didn't work out to well for them did it?Huh

Put together some sort of "Media Release" send it to ALL the big crypto news sites, explaining EXACTLY what happened with the original dev, and what is taking place now. Explain that the community is coming together (and has actually grown) since the dev left, and that you are developing all these new features for the coin.

I personally put a lot of time into Mintcoin from the beginning, and after reading a PM from the original dev (cryptomommy knows of this) I pretty much didn't want to be involved with him any longer, so I went into stealth mode. There was discussions months ago about having the community take over the coin (sort of a coup d etat) at that time I asked the people involved to hold off until I talked to the dev about things...at that time he was open to making changes, but he never really did anything, so the coup d etat was somewhat called off. Looking back (hindsight of course) I should have kept my mouth shut.

I still have reservations about a few things, but I do believe cryptomommy is doing a standup job. Everyone should really put some serious thought into the idea of changing the coin, and everyone should have a look at the Silkcoin wallet as well as the Keepod site.

Thanks for your time...back to stealth mode...
sr. member
Activity: 453
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if you reduce number of total coins price will go up.or reduce stake.and demand will be higher..

Also new features and promotions and support of community

lm holding 1 mil , l like this coin..

You are Correct: There would be a short term spike in prices.

Example: Mintcoin is reversed split by 4 and the POS rate is now 1% , so your 1 million coins are now only 250,000 and each coin is worth 4 times as much, so a few investors buy in pumping up the price , but there capital is absorbed within 2 or 3 weeks and then the price is back where it was and starting to drop, and the interest is so low that anything else is seen as a better investment, so they sell out trying not to lose their entire investment and dropping the price even lower. 1 Month out your coins are lowered than they were originally and with such low interest , you know you won't be able to get your money back, so you trade what is left of your mintcoins for another coin with a higher POS.
And MintCoin Dies.  Cry Cry Cry Cry

We have to build an economy for Mintcoin , where it has value thru virtual goods at first and then as the price rises Physical Goods. Then We Can all Be Happy.
 Cool
Just for the record, there has been no suggestion of a rollback or reverse split. At least that I'm aware of.

Limiting the approximate eventual coin cap (+ 1.5% in perpetuity) has nothing to do with rolling the coin back/reverse split.
sr. member
Activity: 425
Merit: 250
Please see comments below - also kikklo - please pm me if you would like to donate efforts to the team. We could use you!

Here are some ideas for MintCoin

1. Create a Market Place on the MintCoin Web Site where people can Buy Virtual Items.
Setup an escrow account to make sure transactions are complete.

Virtual Items would be things like Pics (jpgs) & Audio (Mp3) ,
Virtual Goods used in Online Video Games like Second Life
Pics could be scenery , audio could be sound effects or even music just not copyrighted
FYI: Keep it Clean & No Copyright violations

Setup a Book Site in the Market Place for aspiring writers to post a Chapter of a Story ,
Password each Chapter after the 1st one and Charge some MintCoins for the Password to each Chapter and paid the writer a percentage.

- We currently are working on something in this area as a phase 1


2. Lets pick 3  Exchanges that everyone likes and we all agreed that we only buy new coins from those exchanges , that way to bump up their Volume, we don't have to be on every exchange.

Excellent Idea - Which 3? I can make a quick edit on the website to feature them. My votes are Mintpal, Cryptsy and Poloniex
Should I create a survey for this?

3. Setup a seed catalog for small time seed sellers, and process their purchase or sale using Mintcoins.
 We can take this into consideration for phase 3 of our new project

Questions we need to ask ourselves, What would we spend money on and how do we make Mintcoin a Part of it.

If we want MintCoin to be an economy, then we have to create it.
 Cool


 
hero member
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I think the much anticipated android wallet and NGO fund would create far more attention than a hard fork.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
if you reduce number of total coins price will go up.or reduce stake.and demand will be higher..

Also new features and promotions and support of community

lm holding 1 mil , l like this coin..

You are Correct: There would be a short term spike in prices.

Example: Mintcoin is reversed split by 4 and the POS rate is now 1% , so your 1 million coins are now only 250,000 and each coin is worth 4 times as much, so a few investors buy in pumping up the price , but there capital is absorbed within 2 or 3 weeks and then the price is back where it was and starting to drop, and the interest is so low that anything else is seen as a better investment, so they sell out trying not to lose their entire investment and dropping the price even lower. 1 Month out your coins are lowered than they were originally and with such low interest , you know you won't be able to get your money back, so you trade what is left of your mintcoins for another coin with a higher POS.
And MintCoin Dies.  Cry Cry Cry Cry

We have to build an economy for Mintcoin , where it has value thru virtual goods at first and then as the price rises Physical Goods. Then We Can all Be Happy.
 Cool
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
if you reduce number of total coins price will go up.or reduce stake.and demand will be higher..

Yes, in theory. But cryptocurrency does not always work like that.

E.g. dogecoin had a huge block reward in the fist 100000 blocks (up to 1 Million coins per block).
The block half was scheduled to be at 14th February 2014, the price for DOGE was pretty high 100-200 santoshi in the period up to the block half.
Since the coin was so young, the half block reward would be a serious limit to the coin supply, and everybody predicted that the price would go up, due to theory of supply/demand.
If the demand is the same, and the supply goes down, then must the price increase.... well.... the opposite happen, the price went down, down, down. And then did the psychology kick in, people start selling because the jump to 300-400 satoshi never happen, and the price have only gone down ever since.

Anyway, the point is that you can not be sure that reducing the total number will increase the price, there are so much psychology in cryptocurreny that normal market theory does not always apply.
legendary
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if you reduce number of total coins price will go up.or reduce stake.and demand will be higher..

Also new features and promotions and support of community

lm holding 1 mil , l like this coin..
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Here are some ideas for MintCoin

1. Create a Market Place on the MintCoin Web Site where people can Buy Virtual Items.
Setup an escrow account to make sure transactions are complete.

Virtual Items would be things like Pics (jpgs) & Audio (Mp3) ,
Virtual Goods used in Online Video Games like Second Life
Pics could be scenery , audio could be sound effects or even music just not copyrighted
FYI: Keep it Clean & No Copyright violations

Setup a Book Site in the Market Place for aspiring writers to post a Chapter of a Story ,
Password each Chapter after the 1st one and Charge some MintCoins for the Password to each Chapter and paid the writer a percentage.


2. Lets pick 3  Exchanges that everyone likes and we all agreed that we only buy new coins from those exchanges , that way to bump up their Volume, we don't have to be on every exchange.

3. Setup a seed catalog for small time seed sellers, and process their purchase or sale using Mintcoins.
 

Questions we need to ask ourselves, What would we spend money on and how do we make Mintcoin a Part of it.

If we want MintCoin to be an economy, then we have to create it.
 Cool


 


And Contact Some of the Online Game Developers , that are real time and have internet access.
Ask them if they would like to have a Coin that can be used in their game that actually gains interest and they could even make it part of their game ways to earn more mintcoin and link to our virtual goods store or they could create their own. The community could donate Say a Million coins to 1 or 2 Online Game Developers.
But 1 requirement would be that in the game the Mintcoin Wallet is Functional and earns interest.

Please add any other suggestions.
 Cool

Just a Thought :
Online Game Developers could use Mint in .00000001 increments and call it MiniMints
 Cool

Audio could include a Jokes section for aspiring comedians ,
1st 5 jokes or minutes free , then charge mintcoin for each additional 5 jokes or minutes, paying percentage to Comedians

Also the Market Place should have links to any online games that accept Mintcoin to play a game on a website.
full member
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Here's something I'll hazard a guess nobody has even though... Today you buy 10 million Mintcoins with REAL FIAT currency, that you earned by getting up every morning and toiled for 8 hours a day for. After one year, you have earned the 20% interest, and now hold 12 million Mintcoins.

Even if you bought the original 10 million at 1 satoshi, and in one year sold all 12 million for 1 satoshi, you would still be up 20 PERCENT. Show me one, just one, guaranteed investment stragtegy that will pay you that kind of interest...just one. Sure, it may take a while to sell all 12 million but they will eventually sell.

This is why the interest should not in any way, shape or form be changed.

I can assure you, if the coin was at 1 satoshi for any period longer than 2 - 3 months, it's unlikely there would be an exchange to sell your coins on.

Cryptomommy is pulling out all stops to "rescue" us. If she says there are potential investors out there but there is concern over the large eventual coin cap, I'd listen and seriously consider what she's saying.

If the coin cap isn't an issue, why would new investors be raising it as an impediment to investing? It obviously is an issue for them.

I have a real hard time understanding why the coincap is such a big deal. At the present rate, it will be more than 40 years until Mintcoin reaches that cap. 40 years is a very long time from now, so many things will change, just look whats happened in the last six months of altcoins, and people are worried about something that's not going to take place for 40 years?

True, Cryptomommy is doing a whole lot for Mintcoin, but I'm afraid the investors she has mentioned really don't understand something about the coincap and the time involved before it is reached. Also, there really is no cap, never has been, and never can be with a pure PoS coin. Nobody is ever going to mine or mint for transaction fees, hell, even now I hate opening my wallet to wait for it to mint, as it takes so long to load and uses so damned much of my CPU.

We all know that "Altcoins" have changed a whole lot in the last 4 months, pretty much all coins are now PoW/PoS coins, but they also have so many cool features incuded in the wallets, and the wallets are so fast loading and clean.

Saturncoin was recently taken over by the community and the total coincap was drastically reduced. If you held Saturncoin at the time of the changeover, you were given 1 Sat2 for every 1000 Saturncoins you held. Sure, today Sat2 is trading at 836 satoshi each, but if you bought 1000 Saturncoin at 1 satoshi before the changeover, you'd be down 164 satoshi right now. History teaches us things, the lesson we learn here, is you don't change the parameters of a current coin just for the sake of trying to increase it's value...we all know that's no different than putting lipstick on a pig.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Here are some ideas for MintCoin

1. Create a Market Place on the MintCoin Web Site where people can Buy Virtual Items.
Setup an escrow account to make sure transactions are complete.

Virtual Items would be things like Pics (jpgs) & Audio (Mp3) ,
Virtual Goods used in Online Video Games like Second Life
Pics could be scenery , audio could be sound effects or even music just not copyrighted
FYI: Keep it Clean & No Copyright violations

Setup a Book Site in the Market Place for aspiring writers to post a Chapter of a Story ,
Password each Chapter after the 1st one and Charge some MintCoins for the Password to each Chapter and paid the writer a percentage.


2. Lets pick 3  Exchanges that everyone likes and we all agreed that we only buy new coins from those exchanges , that way to bump up their Volume, we don't have to be on every exchange.

3. Setup a seed catalog for small time seed sellers, and process their purchase or sale using Mintcoins.
 

Questions we need to ask ourselves, What would we spend money on and how do we make Mintcoin a Part of it.

If we want MintCoin to be an economy, then we have to create it.
 Cool


 


And Contact Some of the Online Game Developers , that are real time and have internet access.
Ask them if they would like to have a Coin that can be used in their game that actually gains interest and they could even make it part of their game ways to earn more mintcoin and link to our virtual goods store or they could create their own. The community could donate Say a Million coins to 1 or 2 Online Game Developers.
But 1 requirement would be that in the game the Mintcoin Wallet is Functional and earns interest.

Please add any other suggestions.
 Cool
sr. member
Activity: 453
Merit: 250
Here are some ideas for MintCoin

1. Create a Market Place on the MintCoin Web Site where people can Buy Virtual Items.
Setup an escrow account to make sure transactions are complete.

Virtual Items would be things like Pics (jpgs) & Audio (Mp3) ,
Virtual Goods used in Online Video Games like Second Life
Pics could be scenery , audio could be sound effects or even music just not copyrighted
FYI: Keep it Clean & No Copyright violations

Setup a Book Site in the Market Place for aspiring writers to post a Chapter of a Story ,
Password each Chapter after the 1st one and Charge some MintCoins for the Password to each Chapter and paid the writer a percentage.


2. Lets pick 3  Exchanges that everyone likes and we all agreed that we only buy new coins from those exchanges , that way to bump up their Volume, we don't have to be on every exchange.

3. Setup a seed catalog for small time seed sellers, and process their purchase or sale using Mintcoins.
 

Questions we need to ask ourselves, What would we spend money on and how do we make Mintcoin a Part of it.

If we want MintCoin to be an economy, then we have to create it.
 Cool


Excellent ideas.

I particularly like idea # 1 and # 2.

If anyone is serious about #1 I would probably donate a very appropriate domain - no strings attached.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
MintCoin FINAL POS was supposed to be 5%.

That is why I purchased a few million.

If the community lowers the POS to 1.5%.

Then it would make more sense to CASH OUT of MintCoin completely and invest in a Utility Stock paying ~ 5%.

The Final Rate has to be at least 5% otherwise there is no reason to Hold it when there are other coins with even higher rates of interest and they are pennies apiece.

Just so you know what a lot of US are thinking.

A lot of you? With 5 posts? Try again.

The number of posts a person has is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Mintcoin has picked up a fair amount of new users in the last few months, and new users are just starting to get into the discussion. Berating new users because of their post count really puts a VERY VERY bad light on Mintcoin, and this should stop immediately.

This is now a "Community Coin" and each and every one in this community has every right to express their opinion regarding the changes being proposed to Mintcoin. We should be discussing this rationally and without malice towards anyone.
People using multiple accounts.....nuff said.


The Fact is that all you seem to do it whine about # of Posts or try to have a Conspiracy of 1 user with Multiple Accounts

Fact people chose investments with a higher interest rate
I am willing to wait for MintCoin to have a Great Return on Investment
However dropping below 5% Makes sure that will never Happen

However Why don't you prove me and whoever else you think I am wrong , start a coin with a Negative Interest Rate and see how far you get.

And Good Luck Sorting Out all of the Voices in your Head.
 Cool
You've earned...IGNORE

That right IGNORE me and whoever else you think I am.

But I will pay attention to You, I was always taught to keep an eye on Crazy People.
 Cool
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Here are some ideas for MintCoin

1. Create a Market Place on the MintCoin Web Site where people can Buy Virtual Items.
Setup an escrow account to make sure transactions are complete.

Virtual Items would be things like Pics (jpgs) & Audio (Mp3) ,
Virtual Goods used in Online Video Games like Second Life
Pics could be scenery , audio could be sound effects or even music just not copyrighted
FYI: Keep it Clean & No Copyright violations

Setup a Book Site in the Market Place for aspiring writers to post a Chapter of a Story ,
Password each Chapter after the 1st one and Charge some MintCoins for the Password to each Chapter and paid the writer a percentage.


2. Lets pick 3  Exchanges that everyone likes and we all agreed that we only buy new coins from those exchanges , that way to bump up their Volume, we don't have to be on every exchange.

3. Setup a seed catalog for small time seed sellers, and process their purchase or sale using Mintcoins.
 

Questions we need to ask ourselves, What would we spend money on and how do we make Mintcoin a Part of it.

If we want MintCoin to be an economy, then we have to create it.
 Cool


 
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