[ANN] MIROCANA.COM - FIRST ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR TRANSPARENT INVESTING - page 45.

Beny9313

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Quote from: cmg12 on October 24, 2017, 04:22:38 PM

Quote from: borodutch on October 24, 2017, 04:08:50 PM

Quote from: Aldaschwede on October 24, 2017, 02:02:48 PM

Why is it not allowed in reddit and telegram to post some qzestions/topics?
So bitcointalk is the only way?

That's because developers *ban* everyone who ask them relevant questions about the product, team and advisors. They don't want the weak parts of the company to surface — that's why they try to ignore or silence anybody who could make their potential investors to *just ask questions*.

So instead of answering the questions (which could be seen as a very logical step), they try to silence the questions. And jeep in mind, they claim to be transparent and they intend to raise $40 000 000. But taking into account that they struggle to raise 1500 ETH more for their pre-sale with the discount (only ~50 were raised in 2 days), I doubt their ability to raise $40 000 000.

But all of this is my opinion only. I'm still banned at all of their public Telegram groups for asking questions. You don't have to believe me — check all the facts yourself

I didn't know anything about them blocking users on reddit and telegram. Are you sure that these banned users wasn't spamming?

I personally asked them about the other review, before a statement from George. They didn't say anything, no warning and suddenly I woke up banned from the Telegram group

I wanted to invest 5 ETH in their pre-sale, but after this happened ... pretty sure I won't

niklasmato

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Quote from: Elkmar on October 24, 2017, 02:42:24 PM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 24, 2017, 12:42:48 PM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 23, 2017, 10:26:05 AM

Please, answer to my question. I asked 2 times already, but didnt receive answer. What will be with tokens, which users will pay for using platform?
You will burn them? Ot this will be your profit, or what?...

I already asked this before and got the answer that you just have to hold the tokens to get access to their platform. So as long as you hold them you can let their AI trade for you and if you decide, you need their service anymore you can sell the tokens on an exchange.

So, this is not a fee for using plaform? Im only must have this tokens on my wallet? Using platform is free in fact?

There must be some sort of fees, I don't remember since I'm following a lot of projects but the contrary would be surprising.

No there are fees to use the platform.. they are listed in the in the Whitepaper.

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Quote from: Trrrt on October 24, 2017, 04:15:52 PM

Yes, first 8 mounth will be free of fees, so first people who will try MIROCANA wont pay fees, it’s really good to have a massive adoption at first.

That sounds good, it's enough time to test the system and as you have said, to have a massive adoption.

cmg12

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Quote from: borodutch on October 24, 2017, 04:08:50 PM

Quote from: Aldaschwede on October 24, 2017, 02:02:48 PM

Why is it not allowed in reddit and telegram to post some qzestions/topics?
So bitcointalk is the only way?

That's because developers *ban* everyone who ask them relevant questions about the product, team and advisors. They don't want the weak parts of the company to surface — that's why they try to ignore or silence anybody who could make their potential investors to *just ask questions*.

So instead of answering the questions (which could be seen as a very logical step), they try to silence the questions. And jeep in mind, they claim to be transparent and they intend to raise $40 000 000. But taking into account that they struggle to raise 1500 ETH more for their pre-sale with the discount (only ~50 were raised in 2 days), I doubt their ability to raise $40 000 000.

But all of this is my opinion only. I'm still banned at all of their public Telegram groups for asking questions. You don't have to believe me — check all the facts yourself

I didn't know anything about them blocking users on reddit and telegram. Are you sure that these banned users wasn't spamming?

Trrrt

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Yes, first 8 mounth will be free of fees, so first people who will try MIROCANA wont pay fees, it’s really good to have a massive adoption at first.

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Quote from: Aldaschwede on October 24, 2017, 02:02:48 PM

Why is it not allowed in reddit and telegram to post some qzestions/topics?
So bitcointalk is the only way?

That's because developers *ban* everyone who ask them relevant questions about the product, team and advisors. They don't want the weak parts of the company to surface — that's why they try to ignore or silence anybody who could make their potential investors to *just ask questions*.

So instead of answering the questions (which could be seen as a very logical step), they try to silence the questions. And jeep in mind, they claim to be transparent and they intend to raise $40 000 000. But taking into account that they struggle to raise 1500 ETH more for their pre-sale with the discount (only ~50 were raised in 2 days), I doubt their ability to raise $40 000 000.

But all of this is my opinion only. I'm still banned at all of their public Telegram groups for asking questions. You don't have to believe me — check all the facts yourself

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Quote from: Elkmar on October 24, 2017, 02:42:24 PM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 24, 2017, 12:42:48 PM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 23, 2017, 10:26:05 AM

Please, answer to my question. I asked 2 times already, but didnt receive answer. What will be with tokens, which users will pay for using platform?
You will burn them? Ot this will be your profit, or what?...

I already asked this before and got the answer that you just have to hold the tokens to get access to their platform. So as long as you hold them you can let their AI trade for you and if you decide, you need their service anymore you can sell the tokens on an exchange.

So, this is not a fee for using plaform? Im only must have this tokens on my wallet? Using platform is free in fact?

There must be some sort of fees, I don't remember since I'm following a lot of projects but the contrary would be surprising.

I read somewhere that they won't charge any commissions for the first 8 months and after that period, they will charge 25% of the profits you generated.

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Still thinking about that 25% fee on successful trades. If you finally get a good profit you have to pay a quarter, but when you lose you don't get any compensation, do you? Mirocana isn't the only one doing this of course. Ah, life's so unfair Wink

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Quote from: belechau on October 24, 2017, 03:09:15 PM

Quote from: kraterion on October 24, 2017, 02:09:14 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 23, 2017, 11:58:03 PM

I just read this post of Mirocana http://telegra.ph/Response-to-Concerning-Post-10-23
The CEO reacts to the latest accusations of someone who posted many posts about his concerns about Mirocana.
I think the reply of Mirocana is very professional and hopefully this will sort things out.
For me as an outsider it was important that Mirocana gave some explanations about the accusations and they did.

I read it and now I'm definetly more confident about the project. My only concern is the same I expressed for quite some time, how they will manage our exchanges account, in centralized ex there's sensible data about us

I think this thread was very lacking in a constant support, this raised some doubts about the project, channels like slack and telegran are even more dubious and with bad people, this hinders a support of the Devs. But I hope I can count on this project and have enough confidence to support them in this crusade. Congratulations to the Team on this really up-to-date, and unexpected response

I also think that they have not given enough support to the project and because of that the doubts have raised. But with this answer I have more confidence in the project

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Quote from: kraterion on October 24, 2017, 02:09:14 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 23, 2017, 11:58:03 PM

I just read this post of Mirocana http://telegra.ph/Response-to-Concerning-Post-10-23
The CEO reacts to the latest accusations of someone who posted many posts about his concerns about Mirocana.
I think the reply of Mirocana is very professional and hopefully this will sort things out.
For me as an outsider it was important that Mirocana gave some explanations about the accusations and they did.

I read it and now I'm definetly more confident about the project. My only concern is the same I expressed for quite some time, how they will manage our exchanges account, in centralized ex there's sensible data about us

I think this thread was very lacking in a constant support, this raised some doubts about the project, channels like slack and telegran are even more dubious and with bad people, this hinders a support of the Devs. But I hope I can count on this project and have enough confidence to support them in this crusade. Congratulations to the Team on this really up-to-date, and unexpected response

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Quote from: petushka on October 24, 2017, 02:05:45 PM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 24, 2017, 01:50:27 PM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 12:55:02 PM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 09:50:06 AM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 08:25:38 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 02:50:32 AM

I have read devs detailed answer to issues, i believe they have all the good intentions and this project is definetly not a scam. For the ico i can invest some but using bot is a different thing. I really want to try but 1500$ for trying is too much for me. Still asking for some trial for less money.

IF the bot really works, we will hear this soon enough from the users who have bought into the ICO's.
But I do agree 1500$ isn't cheap, but if the rewards are really that big, then 1500$ isn't that much

You are right, people will try it and will post their earning or loses here.

I can pay 1500$ if it really performs well. I will make my decision based on reviews then.

True, we do need early adopters to make the review though Wink

Anyone has some spare cash to make a review?

So, we must pay 5 ETH for using platform or Only hold thid tokens? I can not understand. Can devs take an official answer please?

Yes, you have to hold tokens. Moreover Mirocana will not charge any fees for our service during the first 8 months. After that period of time they wil charge a % of your profit. But the predictions will become more and more accurate with every update. So, I hope it wil be quite advantageous conditions of co-operation.

Exactly and in my opinion this is very wise move from them because it will attract more customers to try this platform Wink

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Quote from: autolove2 on October 24, 2017, 12:42:48 PM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 23, 2017, 10:26:05 AM

Please, answer to my question. I asked 2 times already, but didnt receive answer. What will be with tokens, which users will pay for using platform?
You will burn them? Ot this will be your profit, or what?...

I already asked this before and got the answer that you just have to hold the tokens to get access to their platform. So as long as you hold them you can let their AI trade for you and if you decide, you need their service anymore you can sell the tokens on an exchange.

So, this is not a fee for using plaform? Im only must have this tokens on my wallet? Using platform is free in fact?

There must be some sort of fees, I don't remember since I'm following a lot of projects but the contrary would be surprising.

kraterion

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🚀🚀 ATHERO.IO 🚀🚀

Quote from: Yasemin on October 23, 2017, 11:58:03 PM

I just read this post of Mirocana http://telegra.ph/Response-to-Concerning-Post-10-23
The CEO reacts to the latest accusations of someone who posted many posts about his concerns about Mirocana.
I think the reply of Mirocana is very professional and hopefully this will sort things out.
For me as an outsider it was important that Mirocana gave some explanations about the accusations and they did.

I read it and now I'm definetly more confident about the project. My only concern is the same I expressed for quite some time, how they will manage our exchanges account, in centralized ex there's sensible data about us

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Quote from: autolove2 on October 24, 2017, 01:50:27 PM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 12:55:02 PM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 09:50:06 AM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 08:25:38 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 02:50:32 AM

I have read devs detailed answer to issues, i believe they have all the good intentions and this project is definetly not a scam. For the ico i can invest some but using bot is a different thing. I really want to try but 1500$ for trying is too much for me. Still asking for some trial for less money.

IF the bot really works, we will hear this soon enough from the users who have bought into the ICO's.
But I do agree 1500$ isn't cheap, but if the rewards are really that big, then 1500$ isn't that much

You are right, people will try it and will post their earning or loses here.

I can pay 1500$ if it really performs well. I will make my decision based on reviews then.

True, we do need early adopters to make the review though Wink

Anyone has some spare cash to make a review?

So, we must pay 5 ETH for using platform or Only hold thid tokens? I can not understand. Can devs take an official answer please?

Yes, you have to hold tokens. Moreover Mirocana will not charge any fees for our service during the first 8 months. After that period of time they wil charge a % of your profit. But the predictions will become more and more accurate with every update. So, I hope it wil be quite advantageous conditions of co-operation.

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Why is it not allowed in reddit and telegram to post some qzestions/topics?
So bitcointalk is the only way?

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Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 12:55:02 PM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 09:50:06 AM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 08:25:38 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 02:50:32 AM

I have read devs detailed answer to issues, i believe they have all the good intentions and this project is definetly not a scam. For the ico i can invest some but using bot is a different thing. I really want to try but 1500$ for trying is too much for me. Still asking for some trial for less money.

IF the bot really works, we will hear this soon enough from the users who have bought into the ICO's.
But I do agree 1500$ isn't cheap, but if the rewards are really that big, then 1500$ isn't that much

You are right, people will try it and will post their earning or loses here.

I can pay 1500$ if it really performs well. I will make my decision based on reviews then.

True, we do need early adopters to make the review though Wink

Anyone has some spare cash to make a review?

So, we must pay 5 ETH for using platform or Only hold thid tokens? I can not understand. Can devs take an official answer please?

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Quote from: Yasemin on October 24, 2017, 10:12:48 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 24, 2017, 04:37:58 AM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 23, 2017, 11:58:03 PM

I just read this post of Mirocana http://telegra.ph/Response-to-Concerning-Post-10-23
The CEO reacts to the latest accusations of someone who posted many posts about his concerns about Mirocana.
I think the reply of Mirocana is very professional and hopefully this will sort things out.
For me as an outsider it was important that Mirocana gave some explanations about the accusations and they did.

Also read that response of Mirocana. They provide information how their bot performed on their personal portfolio since the beginning of March 2017. That looks pretty nice. Would like to see the same for the year 2016.

Why would you want to see info from 2016? That info would probably not be reliable, they must have updated the bot many time since 2016.

Imo, because you can see if a big part of there work is luck or not.
Would also be interesting for me to be honest.

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Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 09:50:06 AM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 08:25:38 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 02:50:32 AM

I have read devs detailed answer to issues, i believe they have all the good intentions and this project is definetly not a scam. For the ico i can invest some but using bot is a different thing. I really want to try but 1500$ for trying is too much for me. Still asking for some trial for less money.

IF the bot really works, we will hear this soon enough from the users who have bought into the ICO's.
But I do agree 1500$ isn't cheap, but if the rewards are really that big, then 1500$ isn't that much

You are right, people will try it and will post their earning or loses here.

I can pay 1500$ if it really performs well. I will make my decision based on reviews then.

True, we do need early adopters to make the review though Wink

Anyone has some spare cash to make a review?

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM

Quote from: autolove2 on October 23, 2017, 10:26:05 AM

Please, answer to my question. I asked 2 times already, but didnt receive answer. What will be with tokens, which users will pay for using platform?
You will burn them? Ot this will be your profit, or what?...

I already asked this before and got the answer that you just have to hold the tokens to get access to their platform. So as long as you hold them you can let their AI trade for you and if you decide, you need their service anymore you can sell the tokens on an exchange.

So, this is not a fee for using plaform? Im only must have this tokens on my wallet? Using platform is free in fact?

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on October 24, 2017, 11:38:22 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 09:50:06 AM

Quote from: niklasmato on October 24, 2017, 08:25:38 AM

Quote from: zgrdyg on October 24, 2017, 02:50:32 AM

I have read devs detailed answer to issues, i believe they have all the good intentions and this project is definetly not a scam. For the ico i can invest some but using bot is a different thing. I really want to try but 1500$ for trying is too much for me. Still asking for some trial for less money.

IF the bot really works, we will hear this soon enough from the users who have bought into the ICO's.
But I do agree 1500$ isn't cheap, but if the rewards are really that big, then 1500$ isn't that much

You are right, people will try it and will post their earning or loses here.

I can pay 1500$ if it really performs well. I will make my decision based on reviews then.

the price is high but if the bot will works properly worth it,but anyway i will wait first the review of the others buyers...

If it will work properly when tokens are already in exchange, it will cost way more then $1500 to set up 5000 tokens to start use Mirocana with crypto exchanges

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