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newbie
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The reason I ask is very simple.

If  average Greek person downloads the wallet they will not know This thread BCT exists and yet alone what is a NODE?HuhHuh??

this is basically what I am trying to get across to the community and if its PC based what if they dont have a PC but have a smartphone etc

Hopefully now the bell rings and people understand what I am getting at here.


I have more than enough faith that BK will get an issue like this sorted before launch.

I feel like you are grabbing at straws..
legendary
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newbie
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Drachmae

What exchanges do you think NAUT needs to be on , it is already on the two biggest alt exchanges .

If there is ever a large demand and the volume of NAUT transactions increases then the spread will naturally close.

Can you confirm if you are actually Lee from http://coinstructors.com/ ?
legendary
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Something that would be greatly appreciated and would help a lot is Gambling as about 5.5 million Greeks apparently Gamble dont know how True but I see the betting office constantly full they seem to like Keno a lot.

I had spoken months ago by some random chance who was building a casino for Paycoin but I cant find his details.

It would be fantastic if you guys could scout around looking for such a platform as this could be something highly viable for Greek adoption.

please let me know if you can come across a platform provider.

Thanks
legendary
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The reason I ask is very simple.

If  average Greek person downloads the wallet they will not know This thread BCT exists and yet alone what is a NODE?HuhHuh??

this is basically what I am trying to get across to the community and if its PC based what if they dont have a PC but have a smartphone etc

Hopefully now the bell rings and people understand what I am getting at here.



birdcat90 asked if anyone has any new nodes. This implies that s/he has the technical knowledge to know that these are required, and how to add them.

If you are trying to make a wider point, that being

"how would a non-technical person know what to do in this situation, and don't you think that sometimes the technical nature of getting a basic wallet working is still prohibitive to a certain section of society adopting it willingly"

then this point applies to most of crypto in its current state. And yes, this is something that needs to be addressed if any resource of this type is going to be picked up and used by a small Greek island.


Germsite

Can you explain that to somebody who is none technical and does not know crypto???



just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks


There were a few listed several pages back. Mine connects without issue.

Are you using the v2 client ?

Try

146.0.32.101
54.187.96.217
108.61.10.90
52.0.108.136
106.187.93.107
63.247.147.166
124.150.42.36

These are all listed in the 'Peers' tab of of my debug window


sr. member
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birdcat90 asked if anyone has any new nodes. This implies that s/he has the technical knowledge to know that these are required, and how to add them.

If you are trying to make a wider point, that being

"how would a non-technical person know what to do in this situation, and don't you think that sometimes the technical nature of getting a basic wallet working is still prohibitive to a certain section of society adopting it willingly"

then this point applies to most of crypto in its current state. And yes, this is something that needs to be addressed if any resource of this type is going to be picked up and used by a small Greek island.


Germsite

Can you explain that to somebody who is none technical and does not know crypto???



just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks


There were a few listed several pages back. Mine connects without issue.

Are you using the v2 client ?

Try

146.0.32.101
54.187.96.217
108.61.10.90
52.0.108.136
106.187.93.107
63.247.147.166
124.150.42.36

These are all listed in the 'Peers' tab of of my debug window


legendary
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Merit: 1000
Love it when a plans starts to come together
Germsite

Can you explain that to somebody who is none technical and does not know crypto???



just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks


There were a few listed several pages back. Mine connects without issue.

Are you using the v2 client ?

Try

146.0.32.101
54.187.96.217
108.61.10.90
52.0.108.136
106.187.93.107
63.247.147.166
124.150.42.36

These are all listed in the 'Peers' tab of of my debug window


sr. member
Activity: 1009
Merit: 261
just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks


There were a few listed several pages back. Mine connects without issue.

Are you using the v2 client ?

Try

146.0.32.101
54.187.96.217
108.61.10.90
52.0.108.136
106.187.93.107
63.247.147.166
124.150.42.36

These are all listed in the 'Peers' tab of of my debug window

legendary
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Well if there is no nodes how can anybody use it?

This is exactly the point I have been saying and asking how will greeks or business use it???

Is it a Android or Apple wallet?

what type of wallet is it??

just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks
hero member
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just download the wallet,,

But the wallet isnt syncing with the network ? it says no block source available ? anyone has new nodes??

thanks
legendary
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How about they accept Euro or BTC and no need to offer discounts

The already have a discount program built into Drachmae so which is a loyalty token so why would they offer more discount for Nautilus coin?Huh

Discounts do not solve liquidity problems, Secondly the pricing of the island Is already rock bottom so it does not pay for business to offer discounts to subsidies Naut Negative issues.

Nautilus has to offer benefits to user and merchants to use it (Sorry to say its not the other way around)

You can pay in bitcoin for a hotel on the island via Expedia and Destinia.

So what benefit does Nautilus offer them to accept it?Huh?

What incentive is there to offer a business to accept and use Nautilus?

I am asking this question from the point of view from what the local people on the Island ask me.

Saying decentralized makes no difference to them as they want to know how and where they can spend it, if they cant spend it they want to change it it into Euros.
legendary
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Currently Nautilus is not Backed by gold.

So we need to look at the current status as there is no deadline to if and when the Gold may come into play it could be 1  to 12 months.

and even then it wont be backed by gold fully as it could well be done by transaction value so no transactions = no gold reserve


also, by backin up NAUT with gold, there is only a limited fluctuation, since at a certain point it becomes profitable to buy cheap NAUT on the exchanges and exchange it for gold. So the value can only drop to a particular threshold.  Wink Implement my two suggestions and NAUT will become a huge success.  Smiley
legendary
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Delong:

1.  You still haven't explained why any of us in the community should listen to you, what your role is with NAUT, etc.  Any talk about integration into Drachmae, voting for NXT integration, etc. doesn't really mean anything coming from "some dude on BCT" unless BK himself clarifies your role in NAUT... Sorry.

1st of all and most of all I am not apart of the Naut community and we do not hold any of Nautilus coin.
2nd Drachmae is a Coinstructors project and seeing as I am one of the Founders of Coinstructors, Yes it does have a lot of to do with us and me about integration into Drachmae
3rd Most of all I am fishing for information from you guys to see where your looking to go and how, alongside this where you see yourselves in decision making etc as this is decentralized and not centralized world (If you have Naut then you have the right for input and suggestions about Naut)


2.  Until I hear something substantive to the contrary, I'm only awaiting further updates from Brian Kelly to learn about future plans for NAUT.  If those future plans are concrete and laid out openly to a point at which I feel like contributing, then I will contribute.  If, as Germsite writes above, communication continues to be sketchy, no one is quite sure what "the plan" is, and things are going on quietly behind the scenes that we aren't made aware of, then I likely won't contribute (until that changes for the better).

Again BK does not answer for or on Behalf of the Drachmae project, He can answer to Nautilus and what his vision is for Nautilus.
Therefore if you are interested in actually understanding what the Drachmae project is you would need to contact the people behind it. www.coinstructors.com and ww.44phones.com
Currently the only plan is to add Nautilus to the Drachmae Banking platform and Airdropped to local residents but that may well be a long way off as there is lots of legal aspects to be covered and Development to service those people and the business on the Island.

What BK wants to achieve and to be successful entails of even the Naut holders playing a part in it so it would be most viable for you to find a way to interact with BK which can be very easily achieved if done correctly, he will respond to valid inquiries, but I doubt he will respond to insults and threats.

The only contribution that Naut holders can actually offer is spread the word and bring new people into Nautilus and market it, Thats about the only things you could possibly do right now.


3.  It seems that English is not your first language, which is fine, of course... But it looks really bad when you act like you are the new voice of NAUT and every post you make is littered with grammatical errors. 

English is my 1st language but I am working from a Mobile Phone as I was in a Bad accident a month ago so I find it easier to work with the mobile but proves to be challenging. I do find Insults and threats also just as bad as grammatical mistakes

4.  Please learn how to quote things within BCT, otherwise you are posting walls of text that just look a mess.

I fully Agreed with you it also helps to provide valid feedback that can be relevantly used as well opposed to utter presuming and speculation and making ones own views of something up without understanding it, Hence why I am here in the thread trying to see what can be achieved or not achieved, From the perspective of the project you should organise yourselves to have 3 people to interact and provide feedback to what there is of a so called community (might be viable for naut holders to start thinking about creating a community to interact with organisation or business that could be interested in working with nautilus).
legendary
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Example of the issue that needs to looked at and resolved.

If you have 750.24 Euros in transaction for businesses accepting payments for goods and services then the market liquidity needs to be looked at if viable.

Hotel A accepts 750.24 Euro = 18,225 Nautilus @ 0.041165

Lets say on the exchange the spread is as follows:

47     @ 0.041165  = 1.93 Euro
385   @ 0.041130  = 15.83 Euro
59     @ 0.041026  = 2.42 Euro
1368  @ 0.040034  = 54.76 Euro
4935  @ 0.037897  = 187.02 Euro
859    @ 0.037578  = 32.27 Euro
493    @ 0.037462  = 18.46 Euro
2995  @ 0.037201  = 111.41 Euro
195    @ 0.037147  = 7.24 Euro
193    @ 0.037103  = 7.16 Euro
76     @ 0.037056  = 2.81 Euro
736    @ 0.036973  = 27.21 Euro
47     @ 0.036748  = 1.72 Euro
2005  @ 0.036689  = 73.56 Euro
5639  @ 0.036610  = 206.44 Euro

Would cost the end user 20,032 Naut 1807 more than it should so an extra 74 euros to the end user 834 Euros

 I am basing this on Euros in which there is no Nautilus Euro market

But if we look at it based on BTC it costs more to use Naut and drops the market cap just for a transaction of 750 euros.

Current market cap 219,082 Euros @ 0.041165 Euro
After convering the Transaction the market cap would be 194,842 Euros Market cap @ 0.036610

and todays trading volume is 484 Euros

Common logic if you have 7000 euros in transactions then where would the naut price be left 0.003661 Euros @ market cap of 19,484 Euros

Greeks will want Euros not BTC

So we need to have a reality check to the situation and what is on the Table for Nautilus alongside this BK wants to donate Nautilus to people on the ISland today they have 50 euros next minute 5 euros.

Why would a business want to accept Payment if they are going to lose value so fast??

Does anybody have a solution to the above example???

Currently there is next to none trading BTC/Naut and there is not in existence a Euro Market even.
legendary
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What happens with Nautilus you should listen to BK.

But when it comes down to the Drachmae platform BK does not have control over it. (is that clear)

What I am saying to you all is this and it's very simple.

Put aside Drachmae Project and put aside BK.

How and who is promoting Nautilus or Developing around it alongside marketing it??

Just because Nautilus is on the Drachmae platform it does not mean anything as there is also other currencies on the platform:
USD
Euro
GBP
BTC
NXT

So what is going to be the driving for people to use Nautilus opposed to one of the above?Huh

What benefits outside of the Drachmae platform does nautilus provide users Huh??

Hopefully this time somebody can actually understand the questions above.
member
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If it's not coming out of BK's mouth I DON'T CARE!! Grin
newbie
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What's the deal with this voting, and why should I think a vote on this shitshow of a thread on BCT would mean anything to BK/NAUT? 

And why should I think that user Drachmae, who has 9 posts on BCT and just registered a month ago, is actually affiliated with the Drachmae project or has any kind of pull on the direction that BK will decide for NAUT?   

From the August update on http://www.nautiluscoin.com/latest-news/, NAUT will move to the NXT platform, done by Coinstructors.  This is going to happen, according to BK, so what are people suggesting a vote for?

To me, it seems that, like it or not, this is BK's show and anyone invested in the coin right now is essentially stating their belief/hope that BK will have some real world use cases in place for NAUT by the end of the year, that NAUT will increase in value because of the use case(s), etc... 

Further, I can't imagine, given the amount of NAUT purchased at market over the last couple of months (likely by BK for the stability fund or whatever other fund was needed), that it could be even a remote possibility that current NAUT holders could potentially lose all of their holdings in this "new NAUT/old NAUT" business.

Am I missing something here, or is this the typical garbage that has plagued this BCT thread for as long as I can remember?


You have said everything correct here.

No vote is going to happen from a small little forum page on BCT where ANYONE can cast their opinion, whether they are involved in Naut or not.

Everything is going fine and looking great with Naut at the moment. Everyone just needs to chill - we will not be losing our Naut in a scam
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Now I really have no idea what you're trying to get at. We seem to be going round and round in ever confusing circles. I have no idea whether this is by design ( deliberately misleading information ). I really hope it is, because if that was meant to be a clear exposition of where we're at, then .... that worries me.

BK announces specific Sports use.
Calls for contributions to dev fund with no further explanation or clarification.
A few days later, Agistri project announced.
Related announcements make this announcement out to be a done deal.
Subsequent communication from Lee sheds considerable doubt on whether this is the case.
Most recent communication now suggests that NAUT may not be part of the Drachmae project.
But that it might yet be part of some other as-yet-unspecified project.

In order to get anything off the ground, it is suggested that the community have to get off their collective arses and contribute. To what, we do not know. Or rather, we thought we knew, but it could all change at any moment.

It is then suggested that there is no concrete 'what' to contribute to, that it is up to the 'holders' to define and build out uses for NAUT.

The community is asked to contribute something for which we are given a nebulous description. And yet, we are also told that, in the background, all sorts of legalities are being ironed out. Legalities are expensive to iron out, and legalities deal with specifics.

So it's entirely possible that the community spends a heap of time and energy on developing something off their own back. Only to find that, behind closed doors, a very tightly worked out legally defined entity has been in the works all the time, and now all that comunity effort is wasted, it was a big bluff, a smokescreen. Thanks for the effort, but actually something different is happening. Sorry, we couldn't tell you at the time, but thanks for playing along anyway.


Germsite, very well put.  Thank you for that.


Long, messy, jumbled, confusing post littered with grammatical errors...

Drachmae, a few things:

1.  You still haven't explained why any of us in the community should listen to you, what your role is with NAUT, etc.  Any talk about integration into Drachmae, voting for NXT integration, etc. doesn't really mean anything coming from "some dude on BCT" unless BK himself clarifies your role in NAUT... Sorry.

2.  Until I hear something substantive to the contrary, I'm only awaiting further updates from Brian Kelly to learn about future plans for NAUT.  If those future plans are concrete and laid out openly to a point at which I feel like contributing, then I will contribute.  If, as Germsite writes above, communication continues to be sketchy, no one is quite sure what "the plan" is, and things are going on quietly behind the scenes that we aren't made aware of, then I likely won't contribute (until that changes for the better).

3.  It seems that English is not your first language, which is fine, of course... But it looks really bad when you act like you are the new voice of NAUT and every post you make is littered with grammatical errors. 

4.  Please learn how to quote things within BCT, otherwise you are posting walls of text that just look a mess.

Takk!


sr. member
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Germsite answers in bold

Now I really have no idea what you're trying to get at. We seem to be going round and round in ever confusing circles. I have no idea whether this is by design ( deliberately misleading information ). I really hope it is, because if that was meant to be a clear exposition of where we're at, then .... that worries me.

BK announces specific Sports use.
Calls for contributions to dev fund with no further explanation or clarification.
A few days later, Agistri project announced.
Related announcements make this announcement out to be a done deal.
Subsequent communication from Lee sheds considerable doubt on whether this is the case.
Most recent communication now suggests that NAUT may not be part of the Drachmae project.
But that it might yet be part of some other as-yet-unspecified project.

In order to get anything off the ground, it is suggested that the community have to get off their collective arses and contribute. To what, we do not know. Or rather, we thought we knew, but it could all change at any moment.

It is then suggested that there is no concrete 'what' to contribute to, that it is up to the 'holders' to define and build out uses for NAUT.

The community is asked to contribute something for which we are given a nebulous description. And yet, we are also told that, in the background, all sorts of legalities are being ironed out. Legalities are expensive to iron out, and legalities deal with specifics.

So it's entirely possible that the community spends a heap of time and energy on developing something off their own back. Only to find that, behind closed doors, a very tightly worked out legally defined entity has been in the works all the time, and now all that comunity effort is wasted, it was a big bluff, a smokescreen. Thanks for the effort, but actually something different is happening. Sorry, we couldn't tell you at the time, but thanks for playing along anyway.

That would be a really really good way to engage with a jaded community. 
legendary
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The future is bright with DigiByte.
Why so serious man...
Chill a bit...



Now that has to be the most compelling from you GetNauti

So who is going to GetNauti?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh

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