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legendary
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We need to give the DEV community TIME and CREDIT for the GROUNDBREAKING TECHNOLOGY that already exists. There is room for improvement after NAV ANON - this will be done in stages. I do not feel that DEVs will put their credibility on the line by being dishonest with a MEAGRE stake interest, if it exists.

Hey I agree. I'm behind this team that's why I've got 15 BTC worth of NAV right now and holding. (It was 11-12 BTC this morning when I woke up but gotta love the 33% increase  Cool

But I still think until the NMG & CSG subchains are decentralized we won't see the moon yet. And this isn't a worry about "MEAGRE stake interest, if it exists", it's bigger than that! Do you understand how crypto works and doesn't break? It's not by traders, it's by code. So when I asked the guys what is securing the subchains (NMG & CSG) it's because I want to know that the crypto won't break. Without PoW (or something in it's place, ie: PoS) Bitcoin would fail. Miners won't mine if there is no reward and when miners don't mine then the blockchain stops working. And the same is true with every crypto forked off of it. That's 1/2 of the 2 Brilliant inventions Satoshi gave us; the blockchain.

So I could care less of the stake interest anybody is receiving, but I care greatly about what's securing it. That means it better damn well exist! So it sounds like PoS is what is securing it but it also sounds like there aren't any rewards for staking it. So I still want to know if this is a hybrid PoS system or different for the NMG & CSG subchains. It's ok if there aren't any rewards atm because on Monday there will only be 1 centralized node (the foundation) and they don't have any reason to hurt their hard work. But what about those of us who want to be nodes when it's decentralized. There has to be something that will secure the double encryption tech or it will break. Again, it sounds like it's PoS, which is great,but what are the rewards? 1%, 2%, 10% annually, per transaction, what? What is going to entice [hopefully] a whole bunch of us to operate nodes? <-- This is my whole point: a whole bunch of nodes so we're decentralized and unbreakable.

And I also will be very anxious for the decentralized model to be running ASAP. We all trust the Devs and the foundation whole-heartly, but true anonymity in the digital realm can't be controlled by one person/group.  Too much could happen to 1 entity and shut down the whole operation.
 
  • What if the server goes down - will NAV ANON not be available until it's back online?
  • What if the NSA or someone puts pressure on the ISP of their node - will NAV still work but not the ANON part of it?
  • What if they open it up to other nodes and while they are getting nodes someone controls more than 51% of them and kills the coin - for example: say the Navajo Foundation owns 1 node and the first 2 new decentralized nodes are owned by a bad person and they control 66% of the NMG & CSG subchains all of a sudden?

I can't wait to be Navajo "Magic" Gateway node & Choctaw Star Gateway node. I'd like to know what the rewards for operating a node will be. Until then I won't worry about somebody taking over the double encrypted subchains because one group already has 100% control of it.

TL;DR
We won't see the moon until we have 100% Decentralized-Anonymity. It'll be fun to see how high we go in the meantime  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1003
Well, That's Crypto :-\
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

been waiting so long. Congrats to all of us who have stood by Soopy & team while we accumulated in the 300's Smiley I wish I had bought 10x the amount that I did but I'm still happy.

Let's also maintain our civility and not be callous towards those who did not stand with us then.

Always keep in mind that crypto is still in it's infancy and any coin with a team like that of navajo is a bargain under 5,000 sats.

The few coins that find their niche & survive the next few years will be because of strong, innovative and dedicated development & marketing teams.

A coin like Nav can easily reach the $1 - $10 mark in a few months but patience and support of the team behind the coin is essential.

Mature trading styles go a long way as well. Major manipulation is short minded and only hurts a coins future as outsides do not see a stable investment. Big outside money will never invest in high volatility.

Hold, be patient, reap the rewards in the long run.
Just a little correction Wink

I see what you did there Smiley
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

been waiting so long. Congrats to all of us who have stood by Soopy & team while we accumulated in the 300's Smiley I wish I had bought 10x the amount that I did but I'm still happy.

Let's also maintain our civility and not be callous towards those who did not stand with us then.

Always keep in mind that crypto is still in it's infancy and any coin with a team like that of navajo is a bargain under 5,000 sats.

The few coins that find their niche & survive the next few years will be because of strong, innovative and dedicated development & marketing teams.

A coin like Nav can easily reach the $1 - $10 mark in a few months but patience and support of the team behind the coin is essential.

Mature trading styles go a long way as well. Major manipulation is short minded and only hurts a coins future as outsides do not see a stable investment. Big outside money will never invest in high volatility.

Hold, be patient, reap the rewards in the long run.
Just a little correction Wink
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1003
Well, That's Crypto :-\
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

been waiting so long. Congrats to all of us who have stood by Soopy & team while we accumulated in the 300's Smiley I wish I had bought 10x the amount that I did but I'm still happy.

Let's also maintain our civility and not be callous towards those who did not stand with us then.

Always keep in mind that crypto is still in it's infancy and any coin with a team like that of navajo is a bargain under 5,000 sats.

The few coins that find their niche & survive the next few years will be because of strong, innovative and dedicated development & marketing teams.

A coin like Nav can easily reach the $1 - $10 mark in a couple years but patience and support of the team behind the coin is essential.

Mature trading styles go a long way as well. Major manipulation is short minded and only hurts a coins future as outsides do not see a stable investment. Big outside money will never invest in high volatility.

Hold, be patient, reap the rewards in the long run.
hero member
Activity: 659
Merit: 500
Zepher is scammer!:)
Here http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/navajo/#charts we can see that the highest price was in 17.february 3760 sat...so 4000 today not problem Wink
I like it- my predictions was right -quote  #9878 almost 4000 sat today- on cryptsy 3900 sat highest price:)
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Hold you coins don't sell at cheap buy orders soon each NAV will at $10
just 2 Days remaining to get cheap NAV
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 834
i easily see it @ 300k sat  soon Smiley
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
I am glad to see how NAV is moving with DEVs AND community doing a terrific job, particularly answering questions from new folks and potential investors.

 Only thing I regret is not buying even more at 300 range than I did hehe(bought about 350 K then and now have 511K so I am very content).

Monday I will make donations to the DEVS and for the maintenance of the server... Keep it up!


Cheers
Robb79
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
yeah its last call under 4gs yo!
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
If you want cheap coins, don't set the buy order and waiting for someone eat your buy order.
Go and eat those sell orders.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
my "im sorry" is provocative  Cool Cool Cool, if you want cheap navajocoin buy this 0.00003730 - 29340 - 1.0944 btc
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
the price was low for months you must not complain, you could buy in january for 300 sat ! it's Too late now And I'm sorry
I am NOT SORRY, and I don't care. He should have bought coins 2 months ago, when some members were still spreading FUD.
He better get them now at 3000+ Sat, before this opportunity is gone also Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Yeah, totally agree with you.
There was best opportunity when price was at 200-300 for 5 months.
Now that opportunity has been changed to the dream, there is still last opportunity to buy at 3000+
Don't miss the train.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1002
Just noticed the Poloniex market data shows up on my Linux QT and not the Windows one. so weird.
We need to give the DEV team time, these are minor issues that can be sorted after NAV ANON release.

waiting indeed, trying the staking process now.
stay tough guys and hang tight.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1000
Just noticed the Poloniex market data shows up on my Linux QT and not the Windows one. so weird.
We need to give the DEV team time, these are minor issues that can be sorted after NAV ANON release.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1000
the price was low for months you must not complain, you could buy in january for 300 sat ! it's Too late now And I'm sorry
I am NOT SORRY, and I don't care. He should have bought coins 2 months ago, when some members were still spreading FUD.
He better get them now at 3000+ Sat, before this opportunity is gone also Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1000
We may not see a HUGE jump until the double encryption subchain is truly decentralized. I'm not sure investors want to trust 1 person with 100% of the stake proceeds and 100% of the anonymity encryption chain power. For now, after talking with Pakage, that's where we're at right now. The subchains are controlled by the foundation, they are Proof of Stake and they get all the rewards.
It'll be interesting to see come Monday!

When will they decentralized the double encryption subchain?

I don't think you got that all right. Yeah we maintain the complete subchain network at the moment And it is proof of stake. But what do you think we should do with the rewards of the staking in the private subchain??? There is no rewards, which you could sell or whatever.  Only costs in that chain. And you need to stake to keep the network alive.

Maybe I don't, I'm just assuming since Pakage said the subchains are secured through PoS that staking would happen and thus staking rewards would happen. That's how PoS works. And the Navajo Foundation is the only node allowed to stake and get the rewards. That's just the logic I was using. Maybe we need more explanation of how securing the 2 subchains works. Is it a hybrid of PoS?

lol as always happened before, here also there are fudsters from shadowcoin dirty community

I own ~.5% of NAV total supply. I think I can have an opinion of whats going on in my communities.
We need to give the DEV community TIME and CREDIT for the GROUNDBREAKING TECHNOLOGY that already exists. There is room for improvement after NAV ANON - this will be done in stages. I do not feel that DEVs will put their credibility on the line by being dishonest with a MEAGRE stake interest, if it exists.
hero member
Activity: 1030
Merit: 502
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The coin is not at all distributed properly. Top 3 wallets have more than 50 % of the coin. This will result in constant dumping and the price would remain low forever.

http://navajocoin.org/rich-list

What 50%?
1. 5,345,049
2. 4,302,140
3. 3,000,000

This is 50%? Your'r not correct. Please remind elementary school math Smiley
BTW these wallets are exchanges bittrex, cryptsy, etc.


there are now over 58 million coins..........so your math is off

anyway, i  see a million $ market cap by monday, if not sooner
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
the price was low for months you must not complain, you could buy in january for 300 sat ! it's Too late now And I'm sorry
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1002
Just noticed the Poloniex market data shows up on my Linux QT and not the Windows one. so weird.
full member
Activity: 124
Merit: 100
The coin is not at all distributed properly. Top 3 wallets have more than 50 % of the coin. This will result in constant dumping and the price would remain low forever.

http://navajocoin.org/rich-list

What 50%?
1. 5,345,049
2. 4,302,140
3. 3,000,000

This is 50%? Your'r not correct. Please remind elementary school math Smiley
BTW these wallets are exchanges bittrex, cryptsy, etc.
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