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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 17. (Read 196217 times)

hero member
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DAO ↔ DApp
Do not buy into projects where private groups get in early and pump up coins using a small supply. There is no need to pay so much for this idea.

At launch people payed a valuation of 72 million. Now wonder everyone except the initial private investors made money on this. Now the valuation is still a ridiculous 13 million.

Reply here for more info:
https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/700411947884236800


The marketcap is at $ 648,214:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/neucoin/

(those coins that are really on the market)


And the real marketcap is the buyside at Bittrex: 4 BTC. ;-)

I've noticed many coins trying to do this move. 95%+ of coins "aren't on the market". At some point these coins will come on the market. This means that the coins you buy today will be diluted by 2000% at some point in the future.

You can think of this two ways:
Marketcap = $ 648,214 but you're coins will be diluted 2000% or Marketcap = 13 million and you're coins won't be diluted.


Haha 4 BTC marketcap is pretty funny. ;-) It's true. You can't even sell your coins if there was an emergency.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Do not buy into projects where private groups get in early and pump up coins using a small supply. There is no need to pay so much for this idea.

At launch people payed a valuation of 72 million. Now wonder everyone except the initial private investors made money on this. Now the valuation is still a ridiculous 13 million.

Reply here for more info:
https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/700411947884236800


The marketcap is at $ 648,214:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/neucoin/

(those coins that are really on the market)


And the real marketcap is the buyside at Bittrex: 4 BTC. ;-)
hero member
Activity: 804
Merit: 500
DAO ↔ DApp
Do not buy into projects where private groups get in early and pump up coins using a small supply. There is no need to pay so much for this idea.

At launch people payed a valuation of 72 million. Now wonder everyone except the initial private investors made money on this. Now the valuation is still a ridiculous 13 million.

Reply here for more info:
https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/700411947884236800
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
@slashdevslashnull: In my opinion the harsh critique on Neucoin is more than justified. I see nothing bad in ICO's but there should be more than just hyping, big names (who have never shown up), high promises etc. And what's that for a goal to say: "We want to reach mass-adoption!"? Every projects wants that. They have to explain why that could be successful, where is the advantage for anybody to use Neucoin?

In fact it's bad tech and it's the worst eco-system I've ever seen.

Just as a reminder:

Initial supply was 3 billion.

They sold to the community: 100 Million.

And then there is a inflation rate of 100% per year of 3 billion which means that they're staking millions every day without any chance to distribute it. Our of market-perspective they stake 100% every few weeks. Now they're complaining that PoW would bring pressure on the price but what does that mean? Without PoW but full PoS: Even less for those who support the Blockchain but more for them, right? And what will they do with all the Millions they stake everyday? They can't do anything with that! This project is totally fucked up since it's start.

You should read the posts around end of september and early october, when they went live and you'll see: A lot of calculations and analyzing and it was all predicted.

Just two examples of my own posts:


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A little bit math about this idea:

"To optimize for growth and adoption, a large share of the foundations’ endowment will be given to consumers in exchange for engaging with, trying out, and referring friends to NeuCoin. Another large block will be awarded to companies that help NeuCoin grow its user base and become more useful: game publishers and content providers that accept microtransactions with NeuCoin tokens, exchanges, wallets, consumer mining services, payment processors, remittance services, discounted group shopping services, marketing and distribution partners and other key services to NeuCoin users. Finally, some will be sold, with proceeds used by the foundations to increase the value of NeuCoin through consumer marketing, utility development, and core coin development."

(...)

to read more: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12556706
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Or take a look at this one with two calculations (from rizzlarolla and myself) about inflation and distribution:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12567238


Really, I've never seen a project like this, so badly designed and the last months they've shown that they are totally incompetent. A lot of technical issues, a complete lack of transparency and honesty etc. and now the next step of this weirdness is that they want to go full PoS to avoid pressure on the price. Truth is: There is nothing they can do. It's a totally fucked up eco-system, the worst distribution-model I've ever seen and if they would sell just the coins they stake in one day the price would go down to 1 sat. But they stake that everyday and since months now.




Edit: A post about the question if the ICO was legit:


One question is: Was the ICO really sold to the public and was it really a legit launch?

The problem is, if you look at the distribution:

Top 10.......2,967,553,562.06368923 NEU   96.72 %
Top 100.....3,062,105,550.67083359 NEU   99.8 %
Top 1000...3,068,146,816.34814405 NEU   100 %

Where are the 100 Mio sold in the ICO? It's not in Top100-1000. There are only about 6 Mio Coins. That's the staking of 20 hours.

(...)

to read more: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12572703
hero member
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Did not mean to post a suspicious link!  Check their twitter/blog for a post from today about them shifting 100% to PoS because PoWers are just dumping coins.

URL Shorteners are auto removed. Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/NeuCoin/status/700282527353798660

newbie
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Did not mean to post a suspicious link!  Check their twitter/blog for a post from today about them shifting 100% to PoS because PoWers are just dumping coins.
newbie
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This thread is crazy. I was up until 1:30 last night reading close to half from middle to end. Let’s call it a guilty pleasure. I had a strong popcorn craving the entire time.

I’m fascinated by the blockchain from a technical perspective and I own a little BTC. I’m interested in using existing coins and blockchain technology in products I develop.

I’m even newer to Bitcoin alternatives and media surrounding NEU  and their mission is most of what got me thinking about alts, but I’m considering many. I did get some neucoin which I’ve been staking myself. The value and trading volumes have been very poor.  /r/neucoin led me here (first time reader last night.) This thread, Reddit and many others have been insanely harsh on the coin and I’m trying to wrap my head around it. Is this kind of response at all normal for new Altcoins? Defensive BTC/other-alt holders? Poor track record of previous alts?  The comments or accusations here are so strong. I have to believe its more than just the technicals that have been pointed out.

The crypto community mostly rejected this coin from the start and those that didn’t have all but abandoned it the last several months.

This came over the twitter today: http://[Suspicious link removed]/1PHNTRB

It reads like an acknowledgement from them that the community is not interested in Neucoin. It isn’t very welcome news, but I am conflicted. I still have the same question I’ve had since I first concluded that there might be very little community support for this currency. Does it matter? If the mission of this coin is mass adoption by people unfamiliar with and even weary of crypto currency, why do they need much establishment support to complete their mission?

Early marketing did not kick things off very well. I don’t think that instantly losing 50% of founders’ value was part of the plan. At the same time, I don’t expect them to take a conventional approach and that’s exactly what makes neu interesting to me. There is no safe bet in crypto.  No coins have any mass appeal, so why do what other coins do?  As a tech entrepreneur, I identify with NEU’s approach to gaining marketshare, so I’m not as ready to write them off as many of you.

The foundations still have money in the bank and they still have unparalleled efforts in progress to get coins into the hands of regular Joes. Have reports of NEU’s death been greatly exaggerated?

This may be the wrong crowd to ask. I think threads like this played a role in the rocky start and do expect some responses to not be very cordial. This does seem like a place where people are still discussing neu that isn’t moderated.
member
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700 blocks during the PoW.
1.6 days minimum stake time.
Blocktime > 1min
newbie
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Dead. Literally dead.

not yet^

No blocks in five hours.   Is this charade over

dont worry, this one i got right now:

02-15 23:49:34,882 INFO block_updater # New block! Prevhash: 5432029b0dfc1e816ac064844239d2d9753ff4b4f395fbb6b4b4860fe115e2a9

block 225483  Grin

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
No blocks in five hours.   Is this charade over
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
big wallets are still dumping.. this is crazy Angry this coin never seem will go up to 6k again.

They are probably just trying to get back a little something.

NEU is dead. Too bad is was only selling dreams and promises and nothing worth behind.

The only thing worth it was the design with the squirrel :-D

Dead. Literally dead.

hero member
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hello i got this forum seems like neucoin
you can check this
https://forum.valorbit.com/
hero member
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Go home NoChain, you're drunk!... again...

hehe, yay!

these days the bigstacking nokoin powpos got angry because we got a few pieces of their supply ;-)

http://puu.sh/n3Jkr/e9c7d2c97f.png

now they likely flooding the net with tons of bad hashes - much hashes such wow  Grin

alchemist's done...
http://puu.sh/n3JLC/81f0dfdbx18.png

Can't open second link but I'm sure I got ya  Wink

PoS difficulty down to 0.00029812 (in words: ZERO):

http://neucoin.io/

The regime's node unplugged since wednesday early morning...

Small guys staking like crazy: http://neucoin.io/address/NfsZmwHt9EmLGFGng2ewxTjDoGEhTe2cj2

#muchhashessuchwowdontbelievethehype

 Grin Grin Grin


http://forum.neucoin.org/t/unable-to-mint-today/2473
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Wow, constant BTC-withdrawals the last time:

https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH

Started with 4,012 BTC
Currently: 259 BTC

Soon: 0 BTC

Additionally: Scammy-the-squirrel price ticker gone from cointelegraph.
(Reputation still destroyed)

Oh, you're right! That's interesting! Clear sign that they've lost even those who they've payed.




I'm for transparency, here's my neucoin account, currently most of my coins are in a growth account so it shows 7000 but if you look at my last large transaction you'll see that the money is sitting in a growth account. I was using Timenglers wallet and was confused by something so have moved my coins to a growth account for the three month duration. I will move them back to the official neucoin wallet after the three months. And by such time make sure my computer is clean.

http://www.neucoin.io/address/NXBY92t6WqeT8JQPAUGqSHpuSThg29JuDX

Should I ever decide to sell off my coin I would publicly say that I was leaving. Though a fair distance into the future I may sell off some of my interest gained when it gets over a cent without bothering to tell anyone. But currently I'm quite satisfied by the amount of response by the team. I'm looking forward to seeing how things go.


Edit: For those who do not know, I am a forum mod for neucoin.

Good to see you back, Dart.  So, your wallet, as posted above, is empty.  Did you sell and save your skin?

What are your thoughts on there only being 259 BTC left in the Seychelles wallet, and no public accounting of where they went and what they were spent on?

How do you feel about there being nobody to sue, since, offshore, anonymous and all that?

Will you ever admit we were right?  Or does the Seychelles wallet and Neucoin price both have to go to 0 before you wake up?

LOL! Man, that's hard.

My guess would be: He already woke up but he won't admit it. I don't believe that anybody still believes that Neucoin will "overtake Bitcoin within a year". ;-)


Just by the way: Coinmarketcap still calculates a marketcap of $ 509,586 while the 24h volume is not even at $ 500. The real marketcap is the buyside on bittrex: 5 BTC to zero.
hero member
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I'm for transparency, here's my neucoin account, currently most of my coins are in a growth account so it shows 7000 but if you look at my last large transaction you'll see that the money is sitting in a growth account. I was using Timenglers wallet and was confused by something so have moved my coins to a growth account for the three month duration. I will move them back to the official neucoin wallet after the three months. And by such time make sure my computer is clean.

http://www.neucoin.io/address/NXBY92t6WqeT8JQPAUGqSHpuSThg29JuDX

Should I ever decide to sell off my coin I would publicly say that I was leaving. Though a fair distance into the future I may sell off some of my interest gained when it gets over a cent without bothering to tell anyone. But currently I'm quite satisfied by the amount of response by the team. I'm looking forward to seeing how things go.


Edit: For those who do not know, I am a forum mod for neucoin.

Good to see you back, Dart.  So, your wallet, as posted above, is empty.  Did you sell and save your skin?

What are your thoughts on there only being 259 BTC left in the Seychelles wallet, and no public accounting of where they went and what they were spent on?

How do you feel about there being nobody to sue, since, offshore, anonymous and all that?

Will you ever admit we were right?  Or does the Seychelles wallet and Neucoin price both have to go to 0 before you wake up?
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
Wow, constant BTC-withdrawals the last time:

https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH

Started with 4,012 BTC
Currently: 259 BTC

Soon: 0 BTC

Additionally: Scammy-the-squirrel price ticker gone from cointelegraph.
(Reputation still destroyed)
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Wow I can't believe this coin was destined to be a huge force in the crypto community with huge name backers and now it has fallen to a few hundred satoshi and progress and communication is really non existent.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Wow, constant BTC-withdrawals the last time:

https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH

Started with 4,012 BTC
Currently: 259 BTC

Soon: 0 BTC

legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1225
The forum isn't very active,but the team is still there, and it still has a small community.


piebeyb please bring any concerns to the forum. Acorn has been made aware of that issue and I believe they are looking into it.

I had a few free neucoin on facebook application and one from a streamming site I am having a hard time to accumulate Neucoin you really have to work real hard for it,their quiz site is not available in our country and there is no faucets for this coin,they should set up more for people awareness..
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