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The question how long Dan will build buywalls to slow down the crash depends on "who is dumping?". Reason is: If he just has to catch Neucoins that are dumped by real investors (not the team and without relations to the team) it's possible. He has enough BTC to buy it all back, especially at those prices. But if he should have lost control about team-members or former team-members or some angel-investors etc., he won't throw much more BTC into it.

We won't find out but I would really like to know how much Neucoin are not in control of the team - "real investors" plus unrestricted coins in the hands of people with relations to the team. In general it would be great if an "insider" would show up. I really would like to know what the hell they (team) believed. I mean, it's not surprising that there are some guys who believed in it, bought the dust, still supporting it and so on. But regarding the team it must be some kind of "self-hypnotizing" that they believed they could make money with that.

What I learned in 2015: Never underrate the combination of irrationality, naivety and greed. 

I believe the devs must have lost all hope in their coin.  I was really hoping for this coin to take off but it sure doesn't look like it is, just sold my free coins.

why isnt dan pumping more?

Dart says nothing. much.
His forum has gone silent.
Not a word on the price of neucoin.

Superdupermans last advise (few days ago) - Move your coin TO crapsy.
But crapsy is looking dodgy, EVEN to Dart.
Dart is "THINKING about switching over FROM Cryptsy to Bittrex"

Ready to dump Dart?
No, you are stuck in the growth account trap for many, many more weeks yet?

Anyway, your dump will be more a damp squib. 
10 btc single trader dump yesterday. That was a proper dump.

But Dart, your damp squib will only realise a 2-3 btc single trade.
All out for 2-3 btc. You lost 9-10 btc.
There is no buy wall above 750 sat.
You have lost your selling power in an ocean of unwanted neucoin.   

Dart, do you read cointelegraph for trading advise?
Do you think superduperman has any intelligence?
At what point is neucoin a fail to you?
Do you regret shilling for neucoin purely on blind faith?

Hope you are not TOO depressed about all this. Hope you have learned something. Keep in touch.   

772 satoshis.  At that price
your presale money has
depreciated to 19% of its initial value.

HA!

What say you Darteous?

How's that $3000 investment?

I wonder who's even dumping?
Probably Dan will be back with buy walls.

Good luck and have fun but.. their block explorer is to tedious for me. It is not tooled up for forensic investigation? 
And until the next overdue update where to start?
impossible to know/prove anything despite the "anyone can verify the blockchain" bs.
Dont waste too much time, we know it is all bs, neucoiners wont know or care about it. 

however if you scroll down on overview page, coins moved to "cold minting" addresses.
Does that maybe explain?

Overall, who is dumping is maybe not so lmportant.
We can be sure this is just the start. IF we do the math. As we have.
Now your theory on trust, which I agree, is starting to come into play.
One dump will lead to another.

Only thing we cannot foresee with any real accuracy, and the only thing that keeps neucoin alive, how long will Dan keep buying?
But team/angels/seed don't know that either!

I looked into the official Block-Explorer, and there is something interesting - maybe.

Distribution-Overview:

http://explorer.neucoin.org/overview


This is the address for Angel-Investors (restricted):
http://explorer.neucoin.org/address/NddwdSJ52ynU3knupStmjebfD67auQr4kp/

But since Dec. 28th there are out-transactions. Maybe that's the source for the dumping. I'm not sure about that, but I wondered who still holds that much to dump it. Doesn't seem as if there are many real/public Investors left with larger amounts.


Edit: Don't understand that address. On dec. 13th there were a lot more out-transactions. All with the same amount: 2,200,000. Could be interesting to take a deeper look in those addresses.

Now is the race to single-digit satochis.  It is well under the insider/angel investor price now.  No reason for anyone sane to watch it go to 1 satochi.  Yet Superman will explain how bulls and bees, or birds, or bears or something works.  Because facts are hard.  Math is hard.  Recognizing people with questionable backgrounds blatently committing Interpol-level million dollar financial crimes is hard.

Or if you've been here the last few months, it is all easy.  Because when the truth has been screaming at you for months and you didn't listen, it's HARD to look in the mirror.  If you read here and ran away from NoKoin, you owe a few rounds, mostly to Rizz and Temp and the Eraserhead guy.

The ICO was mainly self-buying of the team. That's at least my opinion but I also posted some evidence for it two months ago or something like that. Because it's not logically to say: Thousands bought into the ICO but the richlist shows all the coins in the top 100. And one look into their forum is enough to see: Maybe 3-5 guys are active, maybe 10-20 are interested, and that's it. This project is like a private meeting of a few people. I'm not even sure if there is still a team and development or if all what they do is to build some buy-walls to prevent a crash but letting it die slowly.


 

I'm really wondering if someone already has filed a lawsuit against some of the players of this fraud. And given how Cointelegraph is participating, I wouldn't be astonished to see some of its editors/managers being named in such a lawsuit.

On the other hand: If NO legal complaint has been filed yet, it rises the question how much of the buy presale was fake, i.e. orchestrated by the NC-team. Which, too, would be a market manipulation, also according to french laws.

I can't store as much popcorn as I need for the future for watching how Dan and Sandrine will be whipped through courts...

Massive dump on bittrex now.
New low 1010 sat.
Under 1 btc buy orders left.


Edit. new low 772 sat

Hey Piebeyd, long time no see.

I know. You love free shit. Thats cool.
But to shill for it. Not so cool.

Wats up? Your free survey coin bombing?
Or just posting spam for your campaign?
Oh wait, your last neucoin post said you were waiting for this dump.
Now you buy? Or soon you will sell?

You forgot to say Awsome. Interesting sounds a bit dull. neucoin is Awsome cos
You need not explain why, no neucoiner can.

I think this project already looks interesting, just for the response is a bit slow to respond to complaints

cointelegraph the other day
"worth it to make purchases at the level of $8 (but traders should remember that the price doesn't quite reach $8 by just a little, and it is necessary to buy slightly above this level). And then sell safely at the level of $11 for 1000 Neucoins."

cointelegraph yesterday
"After recent dances at the tops of $10 and even $11 for 1000 Neucoin this cryptocurrency tries frantically to keep the level of $8, which is an interesting opportunity to make purchases."

cointelegraph Today
"Usually Neucoin doesn't go lower than $8 for 1000 Neucoin for a long time, but now before the beginning of the New Year anything might happen. So maybe, Neucoin will give us even more favorable levels for purchases."

WTF?

Oh, so now "Usually Neucoin doesn't go lower than $8 for 1000 Neucoin (bs) for a long time" 
Please allow me to explain what happened Frederic. (OP coin telegraph)

Dan is the only buyer of any note. Dan places buy wall. Sell orders build up. Buy wall slowly erodes. (probable) Team member sells. Buy wall brakes. Price falls.
Dan installs new buy wall at a lower price. (the new price is 1020 sat. the rest is chaff.)
Repeat cycle.
(oh, did Dan tell you he would hold the buy wall @ 1700 sat?)

Frederic, while you shilled the last few days, I asked,
"Will the 11BTC buy wall @ 1700 sat be breached?"
It was.
"Will Dan reset a new lower buy wall in the nick of time before neucoin hits zero? (3 BTC order book to zero last sell off)"
He did.
"Will Dan give up yet?"
No he will not... Yet.

And while you shilled,  "good time to buy again"
I stated "big sell off action within next 48 hours more likely than not..."

I'm not gifted. 
Anyone who should be trading, or should be giving advise on trading, would have said the same thing.
But my script is not written by Dan. I have no paymaster.


Think about this for starters Frederic, as you shill,
3 month growth accounts are maturing and coming to bittrex soon. (most neucoiners took weeks to get this started)
neucoin plan to give away upto ~1.8billion coin this coming year.
Team still need to cash out monthly pension pot.
team need to sell ~ 400 million neucoin this year to pay themselves next year.
neucoin unable to sell any coin since presale. (have to buy back millions of neucoin, also presale figures likely fudged from the start)
Dan controlls the price, which he does not want too high. That eats his btc too quickly.

But Frederic/cointelegraph, you must know all that. (Didn't Dan tell you?)

If you get stuck again, I will be happy to give you another heads up. (it would save your readers btc)
I will update here anyway Frederic. (for comparison?)
Feel free to link your readers here for realistic "opinions"
Thanks.

Ah, there we are.

Dans new buy wall @1020 sat.

I thought a "deflation" was on the cards.
How did cointelegraph miss that? 

cointelegraph,
"buy at just over $8.00 per thousand neucoin bs cos neucoin never goes any lower. SAFELY cash in at $11.00 per thousand neucoin bs"

rizz,
"it may have further to fall in next 48 hours. more likely than not"

cointelegraph, it is now $5.30 per thousand neucoin bs.
Give it a rest. If you want ANY integrity left.

PS.  I cant sell 33 nokoin anymore, deal is too small on bittrex. having to change to larger number!

No audience for me means no interest in neucoin, that's good.
I should move on but, 

neucoin still heavily advertised, that's bad.
cointelegraph giving shilled trading advise to people of a gullible nature. That's bad.
So I go on. 


Those 6 million coin moved from bittrex a few days ago. Def not sold.
I wonder if they will be lost down the side of Dans sofa now, or will they be refunded to "accounts" in the next ad hoc update.
No one gives a shit.
No neucoiner would ever notice.

And yes the Mr nuks btc account is fading quickly. Over 2/3 gone, but 3/4 of the first year left to fund.
But no one gives a shit.
No neucoiner would ever notice.

Now, a couple of btc buy order is all that neucoin clings on to. Very precarious.
No neucoiner will notice...  Until it is too late.

Enjoy. 

buy wall gone. 1.7 btc to zero.

no one give a shit.

So, cointelegraph's suggestion is to buy low on bittrex and to sell high ("sell safely") on cryptsy???

ROFL: http://cointelegraph.com/news/115981/is-cryptsy-the-next-mtgox ...