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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 41. (Read 196241 times)

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Brock Pierce advisor of

- ChangeTip
- Tether
- ZenBox
- Coin Congress
- BlockStreet
- BitGo
- Expresscoin

Brock Pierce advisor of NoKoin? No mention...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brockpierce

Sandrine said,

"Strategic advisors that include Patricke Stymne, co-founder and Chief
Architect of King (Candy Crush Saga), Alex Norstrom, Head of Growth
of Spotify, Jackson Palmer, creator of Dogecoin, Michael Witrant,
core developer of Peercoin, and Brock Pierce, crypto financier and
member of the Bitcoin Foundation"
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-presale-to-start-april-28-and-earn-free-neucoins-now/467

No one wants to admit their involvement.

Sandrine also said,

"Hi @Darteous ! Here are some clarifications: Brock is one of our strategic advisors, as mentioned in our wiki1. However, he is not a board member of any of the three NeuCoin foundations, and won't be. Brock will not have any operational role at NeuCoin, and will never have any control whatsoever in the way NeuCoins will be distributed over time. I am not aware of this specific allegation against Brock, but so far we have never had any problems with him. Let me know if you have any other interrogations on this subject!"
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/team-foundation-concerns/567

That "specific allegation" was Darteous asking,

"I decided to look into Brock Pierce. He's had about half a dozen lawsuits brought against him and he's one of the board members of the foundation. The allegation I found most concerning was that his co-founder of IGE says he stole $200,000 of stock from the company and the suit was settled for an undisclosed amount outside of court. This makes me uncomfortable."

Sandrine - "but so far we have never had any problems with him."  ha ha ha. Sounds like their pet dog.
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Brock Pierce advisor of

- ChangeTip
- Tether
- ZenBox
- Coin Congress
- BlockStreet
- BitGo
- Expresscoin

Brock Pierce advisor of NoKoin? No mention...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brockpierce
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@jonald_fyookball: even if many don't understand, IMO it's definitely time for them to distance themselves from this unworthy project.

First and foremost the strategic advisors paid shills from the crypto space Pierce and Witrant. They DO understand.
legendary
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What, wait, ... the following post (http://forum.neucoin.org/t/the-neucoin-complaining-club/1965)
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So what you're saying is, i should have waited to buy neucoin AFTER the launch at a LOWER price!

NOT complaining any more "I'M OUT, SOLD ALL MY NEUCOIN" i think i will set up an "i'm out" club and charge 1 neucoin to enter. payments can be sent to the following address Ni75VFjLspzZAWPWZ2mr8AVJPCWgT2Byck we will have all kind of things to do and will have fun and things, please join today!
was deleted as well from their forum!

Neucon team congratulations, North Korea would be proud of you.
Since your coin is a total disaster on every imaginable level - why don't you head over to Pyongyang and teach Kim Jong Un some lessons?

@jonald_fyookball: even if many don't understand, IMO it's definitely time for them to distance themselves from this unworthy project.

Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
In their defense, not all of them may understand the context that there are already hundreds of opportunistic shitcoins.  They may actually believe Dan's grandiose ideas are a good sounding business strategy.
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^

Yeah, I talk to Dan and most others.
They hate me wasting my time too.
Few come back with anything of substance.
Actually, few come back.
They have tried most deflection tactics now.

Only SOME of the addresses were released by nokoin, of course.
It's clearly nowhere near transparent.
Nowhere near.


Quote from: idifin on September 04, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
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You might also want to consider as part of your thought exercise that if this is a scam, that perhaps many of the people listed on Neucoin's site are potentially victims rather than participants.

Oh, this list of names, which overrides all common sense.
At one time I would agree they may also be victims of this scam.  
But even the most basic of dd would have thrown up problems by now?

Do the names on that list have the power at their disposal to find out about, and opt out of this scam?
Do these high rolling public names have a moral public responsibility not to promote scams?
Absolutely.
 
But up to now they have elected to shill their names in this farce.
A farce which can really only end one way. The few supporters loose their money.
Time to pull the plug already.

The names crying innocence when this all goes down is too late for me.
The names still want their share of the spoils. IMO.
The names are a big part of this nokoin.
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BTC > etc
Hey ratso,

Yeah good, SOME clarity at last, but...

Are you still wasting your time talking to Dan?? My ignore list is populated by his sock accounts Wink
So they released the addresses AFTER my post, I'm sooo impressed
Now how about proving wrong all the other points raised??? Promises of adoption and utility since day one?? Yeah, good luck with that one!!

Meanwhile, nokoin prices keep tanking and bag holders are slowly opening their eyes to the sad reality that nokoin is just another worthless shitcoin.

I really tried to find something with quality in this project....

- Innovation? No
- Quality in technical development? No
- transparency? No
- Good communication? No
- Broken promises? Yes
- Lies? Yes
- Growing dynamic? No
- Strategy? Yes, but completely naive, not honest and flawed
- Good design? Yes

- Censorship? YES
- Spamming? Yes
- Shady track record? Yes
- Centralization? Yes
- Overpriced? Yes
- Tax evasion? Yes
- Legal responsability? No
- Growing community? NO
- Utility/adoption? NO

I'd even argue against the good design part, but hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

And, just by the way: Where are the big names? They have a list with all those angel- and seed-investors, but where are they? Why is there no post, no blog-article, no tweet, no support? How many are really behind it?

2. Wealthy investors have their money spread across a wide portfolio, some succeed some go bust
If I invest in something doesn't mean I am vouching for the project's promises nor the team's integrity, it just means I think it might bring me profit

as with with all shitcoins lacking innovation, it will go through a few cycles of pump and dump then fall into oblivion
no one will be blamed as it is just how it happens in crypto, right  Roll Eyes
at the end of the day dump, the ones who profit the most are you and your lackeys

You might also want to consider as part of your thought exercise that if this is a scam, that perhaps many of the people listed on Neucoin's site are potentially victims rather than participants.
legendary
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Allergic to false promises
Also the same crap, Craptsy and NeuCrap...
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Anyone see this article? http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/10/19/bitcoin-exchange-cryptsy-may-have-gone-full-mt-gox-refuses-to-pay-out-customers/ for those trying to sell their free neucoin, beware of cryptsy! I'm glad I was able to withdraw my btc from there whewy.

M3ndi3, From the article,

"If they have “gone Mt Gox” it’s of absolutely absolutely no surprise what so ever given the company’s previous involvement with some of the worst scammers and criminals to have ever operated in the Bitcoin space; that people would still trust the services of this company in October 2015 despite the nefarious company they keep is a sad reflection that either people don’t do some basic due diligence about the people they trade with, or just don’t care, and although there are legitimate victims here, the Latin phrase Caveat Emptor comes to mind.

Cryptsy is one of the ever shrinking pre-regulation, old school exchanges complete with Belize registration at a time where the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency space has moved to transparency and financial compliance through venture capital backed companies such as Coinbase and Gemini, taking Bitcoin to a broader, more publicly acceptable space.

The death of Cryptsy will be sad for those who lose money, but good for Bitcoin in the long term as the market can only progress once it is purged of those who are willing to steal and defraud users."


Could almost replace the word "Cryptsy" with "nokoin".
Same type of scammy business set up.
legendary
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Let's have another look at the distribution on bittrex:
- Top account now up to 3.37M neucon
- Second largest account has grown to 1.14M



Looking at the low volume they (the regime members) have to be the only buyers (way below ICO price naturally).

Coming October 23rd "approximately 5 million NeuCoins will be distributed".
Which is with high probability another lie. After the "user verification process" we can expect that less than 1M will be distributed to third parties.
Still this will put more pressure on the price -> ICO investors are even more f#cked.

The neucon regime dominates supply and demand but still has not disclosed the price they are aiming for. Every other piece of information they make public is old and repacked (copy-pasted), not important or imprecise/concerning the far away future...

At the current state the neucon regime produces millions of coins and buys back millions of coins at a lower price. Early buyers are being toyed with by the team. Price is completely artificial. Commitment of the team doesn't seem to exist. Their forum is dry and the couple of complete numbnuts trying to pump it or defend it there appear to be team members (I don't see any reason to believe that they are not fake as well).

Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.


I really believe they're losing money with this. It's obvious that they had to buy into the ICO and it's obvious that they have to buy on the exchanges. And the value of the first two wallets, even if we consider 3000sat (and they also bought higher) is 135 BTC. Cryptsy will be the same picture, so they had to invest roughly about 300 BTC just on the exchanges.

Plus: Costs for advertising and "articles", costs for Design and there will be some other costs... Impossible to know how much they payed, but all in all it will be most likely more than they had as real buying into the ICO.

And now it will be interesting to see what they'll do with the survey coins. If it's a lie with the 5 Mio, it will be visible that they just give out 1 Mio for example. And even if it's just one Mio they have to consider that some of these Coins (maybe >50%) will go instantly to Bittrex.

So... they're in a situation without a right solution. All the cheerleading can't change that.. it's not even relevant who is still believing. Because there is no sign that anybody is truly convinced. Even those who didn't think about dynamics out of the economic-design have understand it now because it's obvious on the market - besides some other issues.

Kind of funny are posts like this:

"There are a lot of people who viewed NeuCoin as a get rich quick, pump & dump opportunity and I think we're seeing that reflected in the price. The coin hasn't even begun yet and people are spreading a lot of FUD & negativity about the project."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/cutting-my-loses-mod-edit-this-is-a-long-term-investment-guys-this-was-not-buy-and-sell-once-launched-for-a-nice-profit-coin/1939/16


He is right but also wrong at the same time. Because... the price alone is actually not that relevant. It's normal or at least not abnormal to drop after an ICO. But: First, the price is overvalued and would be much lower without selfbuying from the team. The economic-design can't work out. It's impossible to change economic principals and who ever believes, that will be better with more time is wrong. It's getting worse. But yes, there is a lot of FUD = Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. But that's never the question. The question is if it's true... For investors with open eyes there are a lot signs to feel uncertain, to have doubts and to feel some fear if they invested too much, because there is absolutely nothing positive to see in any important aspect. I really tried to find something with quality in this project....

- Innovation? No
- Quality in technical development? No
- transparency? No
- Good communication? No
- Broken promises? Yes
- Lies? Yes
- Growing dynamic? No
- Strategy? Yes, but completely naive, not honest and flawed
- Good design? Yes

Design is actually the only thing I would consider as "pro". And the idea to get people in with some funny games is not that bad, but in context of the economical design it's in fact bad because it's just more inflation for the market.


"Once again, NeuCoin has been live for less then 30 days and it deserves more time then it is being given."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/cutting-my-loses-mod-edit-this-is-a-long-term-investment-guys-this-was-not-buy-and-sell-once-launched-for-a-nice-profit-coin/1939/16

But they claim to have worked on it for more than one year, right? What the hell did they work on if you look at the QT, the launch without Block Explorer, the messy forum, the github in general (updates?) and the inflation-strategy and the 97%-for-the-team-distribution?

And, just by the way: Where are the big names? They have a list with all those angel- and seed-investors, but where are they? Why is there no post, no blog-article, no tweet, no support? How many are really behind it?

And what'll will happen to this number: 3,164,945,480 .... with more time? 164% inflation out of market perspective in 24 days. How much user-growth would be needed to bring the project into a distributive dynamic? And even if there would be a user-explosion, what would happen? The team would make a shitload of money, but the price wouldn't rise much because they have huge amounts to sell. Just all those coins they bought back on the exchanges are too much...

So, with that being said... this post is FUD. But again, the question is if it's wrong or true. No supporter was able to explain why this project should be survive, what's the innovation in it, in which way it would add more quality to Crypto... It's just greed and nothing more and it's so extreme that everybody is losing who touched it, the team included.
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Anyone see this article? http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/10/19/bitcoin-exchange-cryptsy-may-have-gone-full-mt-gox-refuses-to-pay-out-customers/ for those trying to sell their free neucoin, beware of cryptsy! I'm glad I was able to withdraw my btc from there whewy.
legendary
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Let's have another look at the distribution on bittrex:
- Top account now up to 3.37M neucon
- Second largest account has grown to 1.14M



Looking at the low volume they (the regime members) have to be the only buyers (way below ICO price naturally).

Coming October 23rd "approximately 5 million NeuCoins will be distributed".
Which is with high probability another lie. After the "user verification process" we can expect that less than 1M will be distributed to third parties.
Still this will put more pressure on the price -> ICO investors are even more f#cked.

The neucon regime dominates supply and demand but still has not disclosed the price they are aiming for. Every other piece of information they make public is old and repacked (copy-pasted), not important or imprecise/concerning the far away future...

At the current state the neucon regime produces millions of coins and buys back millions of coins at a lower price. Early buyers are being toyed with by the team. Price is completely artificial. Commitment of the team doesn't seem to exist. Their forum is dry and the couple of complete numbnuts trying to pump it or defend it there appear to be team members (I don't see any reason to believe that they are not fake as well).

Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.

seems they have a bad distribution models..and investors do not get any reward..
legendary
Activity: 1181
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Let's have another look at the distribution on bittrex:
- Top account now up to 3.37M neucon
- Second largest account has grown to 1.14M



Looking at the low volume they (the regime members) have to be the only buyers (way below ICO price naturally).

Coming October 23rd "approximately 5 million NeuCoins will be distributed".
Which is with high probability another lie. After the "user verification process" we can expect that less than 1M will be distributed to third parties.
Still this will put more pressure on the price -> ICO investors are even more f#cked.

The neucon regime dominates supply and demand but still has not disclosed the price they are aiming for. Every other piece of information they make public is old and repacked (copy-pasted), not important or imprecise/concerning the far away future...

At the current state the neucon regime produces millions of coins and buys back millions of coins at a lower price. Early buyers are being toyed with by the team. Price is completely artificial. Commitment of the team doesn't seem to exist. Their forum is dry and the couple of complete numbnuts trying to pump it or defend it there appear to be team members (I don't see any reason to believe that they are not fake as well).

Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.
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when give away neucoin will be distributed  Huh Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
legendary
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Take a look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/faq  Updated June...
Abandoned.

And http://www.neucoin.org/en/press/  Updated May....
Abandoned.

Professional marketing team?
They are so busy
They cant be bothered.


I must say I've seen lots of neucoin ads on crypto websites.. that must worth a penny.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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We are delighted to award this prize to NeuCoin for being as transparant as a brick wall...

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Take a look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/faq
Abandoned.

And http://www.neucoin.org/en/press/
Abandoned.

Professional marketing team?
They are so busy
They cant be bothered.


They changed it:

https://neucoin.desk.com

ok, didn't see that.

Oh they have been busy I take it all back.
Some very limited update to the faq.

Press still outdated?
legendary
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Take a look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/faq
Abandoned.

And http://www.neucoin.org/en/press/
Abandoned.

Professional marketing team?
They are so busy
They cant be bothered.


They changed it:

https://neucoin.desk.com
hero member
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Take a look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/faq  Updated June...
Abandoned.

And http://www.neucoin.org/en/press/  Updated May....
Abandoned.

Professional marketing team?
They are so busy
They cant be bothered.
legendary
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Merit: 1128
Newbie is my favorite... he has some sense of humor:


The neucoin complaining club smile
(...)

So what you're saying is, i should have waited to buy neucoin AFTER the launch at a LOWER price!

NOT complaining any more "I'M OUT, SOLD ALL MY NEUCOIN" i think i will set up an "i'm out" club and charge 1 neucoin to enter. payments can be sent to the following address Ni75VFjLspzZAWPWZ2mr8AVJPCWgT2Byck we will have all kind of things to do and will have fun and things, please join today!
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/the-neucoin-complaining-club/1965


I'll buy 1 NEU to get into his "I'm out - Club"  Cheesy


Edit: The minimum order size is .00050000.... I would have to buy 16 NEU. Too much... I wouldn't know what to do with the other 15. Cheesy
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