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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 62. (Read 196243 times)

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Dan broke? Already?



This doesn't make sense because the volume is only 100k nokoins on those bars, or 4+ BTC but there was a buy wall of 15+ BTC so I think that order must have been canceled.
legendary
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i bought 50k neucoins

Why? It's a serious question and not meant critical... I just would like to know (in general, not just regarding you) what those, who support and buy this project, see in it.




No serious answers from nokoin Project here tempus?  

No... maybe they pressed the ignore-button. Makes me sad, but I'm not too surprised ;-)


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just want to point out the "other" 0.3bn as allocated to founders.
(no release plan publicised)
And foundations pay scheme?

- 2.4  (2.1) billion held by the three non-profit foundations: 0.4 billion - Code foundation / 1.0 billion - Growth foundation / 1.0 billion - Utility foundation
-(0.3 billion set aside by foundation for founders £2.25m work after launch)
- 0.2 billion retained by founders founding team for $1 million of work invested
- 0.1 billion sold to initial seed investors for $250,000
- 0.2 billion sold to strategic angel investors for $1 million cash invested
- ??  3 foundations council, overseer, Ceo pay


Is there any proof that they really were able to sell 0.3 billion to "initial seed" and "strategic angel investors"? With other words: Could it be possible that there aren't (m)any real investors and the group behind it holds it (nearly = 99,99%) all?


I looked into the ICO-Address. And the question whereto they send the money is interesting. But also the received transactions are very interesting. I randomly looked into those addresses and it's always(?) the same: Two transactions... one in and one out with little time between. Balance always zero. If you go back further, the same picture.

What I want to say with that: It doesn't look as if people like you and me transacted BTC to buy into an ICO. It looks like Mixing before it reaches the ICO-Address.

hero member
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hero member
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i bought 50k neucoins

Why? It's a serious question and not meant critical... I just would like to know (in general, not just regarding you) what those, who support and buy this project, see in it.




No serious answers from nokoin Project here tempus?

just want to point out the "other" 0.3bn as allocated to founders.
(no release plan publicised)
And foundations pay scheme?

- 2.4  (2.1) billion held by the three non-profit foundations: 0.4 billion - Code foundation / 1.0 billion - Growth foundation / 1.0 billion - Utility foundation
-(0.3 billion set aside by foundation for founders £2.25m work after launch)
- 0.2 billion retained by founders founding team for $1 million of work invested
- 0.1 billion sold to initial seed investors for $250,000
- 0.2 billion sold to strategic angel investors for $1 million cash invested
- ??  3 foundations council, overseer, Ceo pay


hero member
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legendary
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i bought 50k neucoins

Why? It's a serious question and not meant critical... I just would like to know (in general, not just regarding you) what those, who support and buy this project, see in it.


newbie
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You want some money to suck my cock too bagel boy?  You can be one of my girls too. If you're a lawyer, double bonus for me.

Please do not feed the troll.

Trolls try to disrupt, destroy or change discussion groups to fit their own agendas.
hero member
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Well said Tempus.

I am easily disregarded because I am a whore monger, say "fuck" and while I do not have the means to Pump Uno, I certainly dumped the living fuck out of it (there I go again!  Whoops!) when it was insanely profitable to do so after I had patiently micro accumulated it over a year with the profits I made from Wolongs foray into Doge and Uno.

I am also pretty sure Jews run Hollywood, Wall Street that the Protestants haven't monopolized, and now Crypto.  Profits funneled to their noses and cocks and then Israel.  In that order.  So my credibility is shot.  I don't hate Jews.  I'm just on to their game and trade with them, instead of against them.

I understand women and the law and get that fucking them is free, and marrying them costs half of everything you've ever worked for.

Whores are cheaper.  Can I be more clear about this to my idiot detractors?  Love is an illusion just like the one Danny fed you.  Reality is Jews and women want money.  Pay the whores to go away, watch the Jews.  They want your money without sucking your dick first.  Jews promise to suck your dick then empty the Seychelles account to trade against you.

Just a patient accumulator and vicious dumper.

Like the whales of NeuCon.

Enjoy sock puppets.  Jews like money.  Women like money.  I keep mine away from both unless they are sucking my dick on a per shot basis or suing dickeads on my behalf, once again on a per shot basis.

Love me or hate me, I am right about every facet of NoKoin I have attacked since the beginning.

Your money to lose.



Just quoting it in case you sober up and try to edit later.

You want some money to suck my cock too bagel boy?  You can be one of my girls too. If you're a lawyer, double bonus for me.
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newbie
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Well said Tempus.

I am easily disregarded because I am a whore monger, say "fuck" and while I do not have the means to Pump Uno, I certainly dumped the living fuck out of it (there I go again!  Whoops!) when it was insanely profitable to do so after I had patiently micro accumulated it over a year with the profits I made from Wolongs foray into Doge and Uno.

I am also pretty sure Jews run Hollywood, Wall Street that the Protestants haven't monopolized, and now Crypto.  Profits funneled to their noses and cocks and then Israel.  In that order.  So my credibility is shot.  I don't hate Jews.  I'm just on to their game and trade with them, instead of against them.

I understand women and the law and get that fucking them is free, and marrying them costs half of everything you've ever worked for.

Whores are cheaper.  Can I be more clear about this to my idiot detractors?  Love is an illusion just like the one Danny fed you.  Reality is Jews and women want money.  Pay the whores to go away, watch the Jews.  They want your money without sucking your dick first.  Jews promise to suck your dick then empty the Seychelles account to trade against you.

Just a patient accumulator and vicious dumper.

Like the whales of NeuCon.

Enjoy sock puppets.  Jews like money.  Women like money.  I keep mine away from both unless they are sucking my dick on a per shot basis or suing dickeads on my behalf, once again on a per shot basis.

Love me or hate me, I am right about every facet of NoKoin I have attacked since the beginning.

Your money to lose.



Just quoting it in case you sober up and try to edit later.
hero member
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Well said Tempus.

I am easily disregarded because I am a whore monger, say "fuck" and while I do not have the means to Pump Uno, I certainly dumped the living fuck out of it (there I go again!  Whoops!) when it was insanely profitable to do so after I had patiently micro accumulated it over a year with the profits I made from Wolongs foray into Doge and Uno.

I am also pretty sure Jews run Hollywood, Wall Street that the Protestants haven't monopolized, and now Crypto.  Profits funneled to their noses and cocks and then Israel.  In that order.  So my credibility is shot.  I don't hate Jews.  I'm just on to their game and trade with them, instead of against them.

I understand women and the law and get that fucking them is free, and marrying them costs half of everything you've ever worked for.

Whores are cheaper.  Can I be more clear about this to my idiot detractors?  Love is an illusion just like the one Danny fed you.  Reality is Jews and women want money.  Pay the whores to go away, watch the Jews.  They want your money without sucking your dick first.  Jews promise to suck your dick then empty the Seychelles account to trade against you.

Just a patient accumulator and vicious dumper.

Like the whales of NeuCon.

Enjoy sock puppets.  Jews like money.  Women like money.  I keep mine away from both unless they are sucking my dick on a per shot basis or suing dickeads on my behalf, once again on a per shot basis.

Love me or hate me, I am right about every facet of NoKoin I have attacked since the beginning.

Your money to lose.

legendary
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I'm pretty sure that they're not just holding this:

- 2.4 billion held by the three non-profit foundations: 0.4 billion - Code foundation / 1.0 billion - Growth foundation / 1.0 billion - Utility foundation
- 0.2 billion retained by founders for $1 million of work invested
- 0.1 billion sold to initial seed investors for $250,000
- 0.2 billion sold to strategic angel investors for $1 million cash invested



....but also the majority of this:

- 0.1 billion to be sold in presale to crypto-community



Reason is: There are not much users on their forum and near to zero action. I don't believe that they were able to sell 100 Mio Neucoins for about 1 Mio Dollar. If so many real investors would've bought this, there would be a lot more communication about it, a lot more banging the drum for it (from the community) and a lot more questions about it and so on.


How many ordinary investors would be needed to raise 4000 BTC? I would say at least 4000... more likely 8000.

And I'm sure they would like to know if the Neucoin-Devs hold their promises and ask what they'll do with the BTC. But nobody asks. All the questions about it are here, but no real answers. Blockexplorer? They are not under obligation to release it, make your own or wait for the official. Questions about the ICO adress and if the money flows to the "no-profit-foundations" as promised and what all the BTC-shaking means... no answer. Questions about the 2.4 billion Neucoins and the 100%-PoS-rate... no answers.


And that's very interesting, because the few supporter call it FUD to ask those questions. If there were thousands of Investors they would like to know what happens with their money.



It's just a theory, but what I believe is this:

The Neucoin-Group started this project with the known premine, and maybe because of the XPY-Desaster that escalated at the same time people were very cautious. Also the plan could be that they'll have complete control over the price, even could make marketing over the price if they hold 99,9%. Obviously there were a lot of conflicts and delays in the last months, it seems that some of the bigger supporters stepped back from this project and now they're probably sitting on their Neucoins, staking it, playing the market a little bit, but they don't have a plan to distribute it. They would need thousands and ten-thousands and hundred-thousands of buyers.... but most likely there are just a few hundred with tiny amounts.

And it's like a dead-end situation. Because if they hype it, make much PR for it, there also will be a lot of questions. They would get more people in but at the same time more people would pay attention who raise some serious questions. And it's obvious that they don't want to answer those questions. But it won't be easier to get buyers in future. I never would buy a project which has an economy like a central bank and a steady increasing supply because of a 100%-PoS-rate. Day by day it get's more worthless.

100% PoS per year = 0,27% per day.

The "non-profit-foundations" staking more than 6 Mio Coins per day. In just 20 days they stake more Coins they've sold to the crypto community.

And the funny part of this: It's not the problem of the community... As I said, I don't believe that there were many real buyers. It's their own problem, because now they're playing with themselves. The project is flawed by design.


By the way: Is there any proof that there are "initial seed investors" and "strategic angel investors" who gave $1,25 Mio? Because if they really exist, I would say they're most probably really pissed. ;-)
hero member
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  • Coin prices should be less volatile and remain intuitive for consumers from launch ($0.01 per NeuCoin) and into the future




the Weirmar Republic

plus
very high PoS awards, starting at 100% per year in year one and gradually declining to 6% by year ten.



Good luck, Dan!
hero member
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Break-even sells flooding that buy wall as I write.

Down to 15 BTC.  No other serious buy support visible behind the wall.  Mountains of sell orders trying to make a few pennies.

Maybe our warnings didn't save the lambs, but the market along with Danny-boy's million dollar buy wall will save them--for the next 27 days, exactly.

Profits only for traders now.  Danny showed his .000045 card.  Hopeful rubes will will run it up again, we will dumb on it.

Then, within 30 days, a whole new dump of survey coins and the first months release of 2% of 3 fucking Billion restricted coins!  Suck 'em up Danny!

This is so predictable it is hilarious.  Must go to grocery store get more popcorn!

Play now, GTFO inside of 27 days when the Weirmar Republic takes over this economy!

probably the sell orders at .000052 are his also.  he'll just try to buy low and sell high and float the price.  Looks like the price isn't going anywhere for a while.

Nah.  The sell walls are somebody called "April Rose" who announced she was crapping out 25 BTC of NoKoin last night, and the walls promptly went up on Cryptsy.  She wants out with moderate profit.

You can see her in the most active trader list at cryptsy today.  She can crush that puddly wall, as can many other alleged whales if she wants to cut and run at break even.

Dan needs to hire a real trader.  He's an obvious idiot on the boards.
hero member
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So much fud and bs going here making it hard to follow the important stuff that really matter..  

There is no important stuff to follow.

Do you know where me, and Rizz, and the others came from?

We asked questions on Neucoin.org. Like "why is everything a secret, and offshore, and why is everything late, even though it's just a silly clone of another coin, and why can Beavis and Butthead make a coin in a garage for free, but you need a million dollars from dumb teenagers, and why won't you follow normal investment disclosure procedures since crypto is now legally a commodity and why don't you want to pay taxes to the French Goverment that hosts your offices and where a lot of your employees come from and why do your registered companies not have any registered employees even though you say there are employees "working on it"?

So many questions.  At best our probing questions were met with a list of famous people.  Whom are evidently cavalier with their reputation. Cavorting with known internet scammers, unaware their names are being used, indifferent to stealing from the stupid, evil, or in on it for the lulz.

We asked those questions at the Democratic Republic of Neucoin.org and were promptly banned by a douchnozzle and suspected child molester named "Mark".  He "settled out of court".

So we came here to ask the questions.

Still no answers.  Just sock puppet accounts with NoKoin employees behind them poking up our posting histories and trying to discredit the messengers asking the hard questions.

This is not FUD.  This is Due Diligence.  If you don't know the difference, go to Neucoin.org which is now cleansed of dissent and hard questions.

You are a fool and will soon be separated from your money if you own any of this shit that is not in a trading account for shits and grins.

The truth is here.  Lies to give you the feels are on Neucoin.org.  We and our truth are banned from there.

Truth, like life, finds a way.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Break-even sells flooding that buy wall as I write.

Down to 15 BTC.  No other serious buy support visible behind the wall.  Mountains of sell orders trying to make a few pennies.

Maybe our warnings didn't save the lambs, but the market along with Danny-boy's million dollar buy wall will save them--for the next 27 days, exactly.

Profits only for traders now.  Danny showed his .000045 card.  Hopeful rubes will will run it up again, we will dumb on it.

Then, within 30 days, a whole new dump of survey coins and the first months release of 2% of 3 fucking Billion restricted coins!  Suck 'em up Danny!

This is so predictable it is hilarious.  Must go to grocery store get more popcorn!

Play now, GTFO inside of 27 days when the Weirmar Republic takes over this economy!

probably the sell orders at .000052 are his also.  he'll just try to buy low and sell high and float the price.  Looks like the price isn't going anywhere for a while.
sr. member
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Thre is just fud here, this coin was another penny stock heh
legendary
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So much fud and bs going here making it hard to follow the important stuff that really matter.. 

What kind of important stuff?

Regime information here http://forum.neucoin.org/
hero member
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So much fud and bs going here making it hard to follow the important stuff that really matter.. 
but thats surely why its worth to trade it now
legendary
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So much fud and bs going here making it hard to follow the important stuff that really matter.. 
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