Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 85. (Read 196191 times)

Missing my point again. I don't think neucoin's taxes or any of that stuff matters.
I'm trading the coin. Hoping it goes up. That's it.

My bet is that Dan already has a million dollars in an anonymously held offshore corporate entity that he's not copping to.  Some of them dollars used to be yours.

I would bet he's not giving them back to you.

He's lying to the securities regulators and cheating the tax man.  Why wouldn't he cheat you?

You're missing my point. I'M the one hoping to trade neucoin for a profit. Don't care what the angel investors and divorcees do.
Your bet is that I've lost my money. My bet is that I'll make a profit. Nobody knows. Time will tell.

They are not "coin traders".  They are a corporation, allegedly, with "Angel" investors (famous, rich, and handsome ones!), soliciting investments from unsophisticated investors.  Wire fraud.  None of their Angels are "women", because, women suck at business.  Rich women are, for the most part divorcees from rich men, glorified whores (Miley Cyrus) or inherited their money (Hi Paris Hilton!).

You have lost your money.  Say bye bye!  You paid for something that still doesn't exist.  When it exists, it will be dumped on you because THEY control 95% of the "coins" in existence when they exist.

Funny how you've never posted on the Ripple or Gems threads.  Only here, the last few days...

What "corporation" do you work for?

It's up to any coin trader how they choose to report and pay taxes on their profits. It's a commodity.
Whatever the creators of Ripple or Neucoin or Gems are doing doesn't matter to me.

So invest in your local heroin dealer to increase his market share.  You are much more likely to get your money back.  It's just drugs, after all.  Fuck taxes, or following the law.

Another Zombie sock puppet.  They are everywhere!

Bought Neucoin in the crowdsale. Hope to trade them for a profit. That's it.
Don't really care about other people's tax liabilities or whatever. It's crypto after all.

NoKoins concentration of power - transparency questioned

Quote of the Day

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Blow me, Dart.

You don't believe in free speech?  Stay in China.

You are an accessory to an international financial fraud of minor proportions.

Your claim to "morality" amuses me.  Evidence of your intelligence escapes me.

I'm touched that you've missed me so much Rizz. A friend invited me to do a segment of the AT. So I've got about another 300 miles to go. I'm going to try to be in town on the launch day. Not much service out there. That being so the ANN is at the bottom of my list of things to check in the unlikely event that I have service. Today I happen to be on break in a town using a computer. I've skimmed over the recent BTCtalk thread, gosh you guys had quite a bit to say since I've been gone. Got a good kick out of the brail post someone threw up. I'm still a fan of this coin. And unless it doesn't launch and we don't get our coins back I will continue to be a fan of this coin because I understand its potential. I'll get back to more actively moderating when I return to civilization. I will be in Gatlinburg in about 2 weeks for another break from the trail.

On a side note when you allow someones disgusting views to go unnoticed you're making the statement that it's acceptable. Silence upon witnessing something wrong is a sign that what is happening is acceptable and perpetuates issues.

Even though it's beta, NEUCOIN makes me happy! Cheers

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Well, with all due respect, fellow troll, I would agree.  Corporations do use "loopholes" all the time.

One of mine, our, "MAIN questions" this whole time is, WHAT CORPORATION ARE WE DEALING WITH?

WHO ARE THE DIRECTORS?

WHO ARE THE SHAREHOLDERS?

WHO ARE THE OPERATING OFFICERS, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY TO DAY SHADY DECISIONS AND CRAP EXECUTION?

Because we don't know anything about those things.  We thought we found Althouse development.

Nope.  Not them.  Just a "contractor" in the SHELL GAME.

Angels:  We know WHO, because Dan keeps sending us the fucking stupid list of NAMES.

But we don't know silly little things like:

WHAT? (did they invest?  How much each?)

WHEN? (did they put the money in?  Before the presale?  Or before, during and AFTER the presale so they could have UNRESTRICTED COINS TO DUMP?)

WHERE? (did they "invest" their money?  Paris corporation whose name we don't know?  Or the Seychelles?  Or Isle of Man?)

HOW? (did "they" invest?  Cash?  Bitcoins?  Blowjobs (like some "founders" buying English real-estate we know)?)

Why?  What deals did they make?  Promising to pay for Facebook bonuses or Uber rides with Neucoins?  Again, because there is NO FUCKING TRANSPARENCY, NO DISCLOSURE, AND EVERYTHING IS A SECRET RELEGATED TO THE BEDROOM OF DAN AND SANDRINE, WE DON'T KNOW!

The only thing we know is that Neucoin is worth less than DogeCoin, and dumb people paid too much.

Which "corporation" is employing all these "loopholes" of which you speak?  Which "corporation" employs Orphelie?

Dumb people have sent money to NOBODY, yet somehow it is going to end up as "Direct Revenue" in Dan's pocket.  "Nobody's" name is Dan Kauffman and Sandrine Ayral.  And famous friends.

I'm not sure I fully agree with Gekko about the tax issues.  Corporations use legal and permissible loopholes all the time to avoid paying taxes.  That's not the issue.

The issue is, well, everything else mentioned in this thread.  Such as selling unlicensed securities.
You want to not pay taxes, that's your business.  You want to collect money from people under shady circumstances, now you're gonna have to answer to the troll patrol, lol.

I'm sorry Ophelie! Its YOU who claim to be bigger, better, more transparent, more professionial, much user-friendlier - superiour over anybody else

YOU will be measured according to extend to which YOUR claims are actually valid.


As long as you only say so very clearly but do not at all offer convincing evidences of your claims, you will be continuously confronted with the same "scam accusations" until you have mastered them. Good luck!

They will launch before September 30. Not sure when beta will be closed, maybe few days before 

I like get some free coins. When will they close beta?

Thank you! I love free Neucoins 

Evidence Neucoin is a scam:

1.  EXTENSIVE, EXCLUSIVE use of Off shore tax havens;  (You work in Paris and don't pay taxes?).

2.  Claiming Neucoin is immune from standard securities regulations and disclosure requirements.  Therefore, disclosing NOTHING about who owns the corporate entities, nor details of the sources of your "Angel" funding nor your use of proceeds of any of this funding.  You sold hype.  Not substance.

3.  Anonymity in the Seychelles (where the money is now).  Why would Dan need "anonymity" if he's not evading taxes, skirting regulatory requirements in the countries where he is selling his interest-bearing securities, or planning to do anything untoward, like a PnD?

4.  Founders with a demonstrably slimy background.  (Self evident)

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No Beef with YOU.  But I suspect you KNOW what's going on:

You'll note I say nothing about the coding, which is what YOU do, isn't it?  I have no beef with your work because I care, and comment about nothing to do with the technology.  My beef is with the architects of the secretive off-shore web of deceit set up.

Are you trying to tell me that Neucoin could not have been developed in a standard French SARL, and raised funding with full disclosure following all the rules?  And kept the bitcoin wallet as an asset of the SARL?

It couldn't because you are all afraid going to jail.  Because you KNOW what you are doing is wrong.  You also don't like paying taxes on the "goods" that you sell, so you THINK you're being clever about it.

Just like you don't bring an umbrella if it is not going to rain today, and just like nobody wears a bullet proof vest if they don't think anyone has a reason to shoot at them, nobody sets up anonymous off shore tax havens if they believe what they are doing is legitimate and plan to follow the law.

"Real people" follow the laws of the countries they live and do business in.

"Real people" pay taxes on the proceeds of the sale of a product (if that's what Neucoin is) or they fully disclose all details of the operation if they are raising investment funds from the public (if Neucoin, an "interest bearing instrument" is indeed a security to be regulated).

"Real people" don't participate in scams like this.  Criminals do.

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Obligatory Misogyny, (since that's what my readers, love me or hate me, are waiting for):

Orphelie, since you are a woman and you may not understand business, morality, or law (but you are a good coder, I guess?) let me make it plain for you:  Neucoin is a criminal enterprise because either:

1.  Management has wilfully ignored securities regulations the world over and (from their base in France) advertised, offered for sale, and sold unregistered, interest-bearing securities to non-sophisticated investors, or

2.  Laundered money in an off-shore tax haven to avoid taxes on a "product" they promise to manufacture and deliver some day.

It's a "product".  Or it's an interest-bearing "security".  Which is it?  "Neither" is not an answer.

You can't pretend it is not one or the other and get to keep all the money, securities regulators and tax collectors be damned.

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There is no "Competition" for Neucoin other than Doge:

Doge was not premined, presold or profitable for anyone except traders.  It has no central "developer" operating on a for-profit basis.  Only scum-bags, historically, have pre-mined and pre-sold.  You have 3 notorious internet scumbags, documented widely on the internet, famous for shitting on people on your "founders" and "angels" list.  Thus, smoke=fire.  Which parts of how scummy your operation is are you having trouble with?  Or do you, Orphelie, just not care and just want the "trailer cash" money too?

Dogecoin, your only (well advanced) "competition" has no employees, nor do they pay anyone to "bitterly and relentlessly" expose legitimate competitors unsavoury financial habits.

We know for a fact that today, 105 billion doge are worth $13 million give or take.

That means that the 100 million Neucoins you guys sold for a MILLION DOLLARS, if comparable to Doge, has a real comparable market value of about $12,500.

So theoretically, you guys have sold $12,500 worth of nothing for $1 million.  So far.

But Dogecoin is actually accepted by hundreds, if not thousands of merchants already--by grassroots efforts alone.  It has no "management", no off-shore slush funds, no off shore "Foundations".

It simply exists in the wild, is much more widely accepted than Neucoin is now (since Neucoin doesn't exist) and anyone with a pair of eyes can pretty clearly see that Neucoin doesn't do anything that a doge coin can't already do, and has been doing for two years now.

Neucoin has a lot of catching up to do with that little dog.  For starters, it needs to exist.  Then it needs to prove it is ALREADY worth 10 times more than Doge.  All that while having expenses, and hopefully being profitable for someone.

That's not going to happen.  The only viable route to you getting paid is doing EXACTLY what you've all been doing.

Preparing a scam.

But I don't blame you Orphelie.  You're just a girl.

Ces Sacs Birkin et chaussures de Jimmy Choo ne vas pas s'acheter eux-mêmes.

Hi Ophelie

I believe the latent "scam accusation" can be dismantled by you and your team only.

Just answer some of the many important questions in this thread (and maybe it would help if you fought DanK's sockpuppet addiction)

LiQio

PS: you don't need to play the women card, most of the critics here are pretty decent and certainly not misogynists.

Who need some Neucoins free to test site. PM me address, I will send it to you.