Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool - page 172. (Read 794394 times)

I did miss that... I haven't checked your link yet but if that's the deal that seems kinda silly to me but if that was their plan I'm sure they have their reasons. Thanks for the 411 I appreciate it..

I've been using NiceHash from day one I haven't even ever visited the WestHash website, I went from NiceHash to NiceHash, I've never mined at WestHash. Well maybe I have if it turns out that's where those hashes went But no I've always used Nicehash servers and just replaced the stratum with the algo.USA so while I also do believe my hashes are at another site there is no reason I can see why that would be.

also - if it is ok with nicehash ...

we would like to promote the start of the donation site we are setting up for devs utilizing nicehash as the initial test ( and eventually permanent ) mining site ...

failover to other sites will eventually occur - but for the moment - the US stratum servers are the ones being used for the donation links ...

we have just started a new topic regarding this ...

we will also be updating as much and as best as we can ...

the new topic link is here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-chainworks-industries-cwi-project-donate-by-mining-dbm-1089744 ...

tanx ...

#crysx

our stratums are the us ones also ... and when we check - say sp's donation address - https://www.westhash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=12&addr=1CTiNJyoUmbdMRACtteRWXhGqtSETYd6Vd - its on westhash ...

when you replace the westhash name with nice hash - the direct miners are shown and not our donation stratum proxy ( which can be seen at the bottom of westhash link ) ...

#crysx

Yeah that's probably what's happening, I'm using NiceHash US servers. I'm definitely mining at their site and I doubt if their computer system has just singled me out to mess with me for kicks LoL I do believe my hashrate was more than likely accounted for on a different server for whatever reason. Admittedly I have not checked the other sites but it's such a small amount of time I'm not too concerned with it, I would however appreciate it if Nicehash can figure out what's happening exactually before I just go for broke tomorrow

which stratum are you using - and which site are you checking the hashrate with? ...

we have had the same issue - only to find that the - US CHINA JAPAN stratums show up on westhash.com and the EU stratum shows up on nicehash.com ...

check it out ...

you may find that is what is happening ...

#crysx

NiceHash,

I understand tomorrow is the day your planing on everybody being moved over to your new stratum servers but I have a major concern. I noticed a week or so ago after I swapped the old addresses for the new ones my rig connected and was hashing away just like it should, however when I checked my hashrate on your webite it said 0.00 for the two hours I had them pointed to the new addresses, I obviously switched back to the old urls and everything resumed just fine. I just moved one of my smaller rigs to your new url and again my rig is connected and hashing away just fine, however my hashrate on your website has shown 0 for a few hours now and my chart during that time is blank and the profit in bitcoins line has flatlined. I have a good number of rigs I aim at your site and would obviously like to figure this out before I set all my rigs loose on the new urls just to not have their hashrate counted. I am not imagining this or doing something incorrectly I know for 100% certainty my rig is hashing at your site and it's not showing up on my stats. My bitcoin address in my signature below is what I'm using right now and there is 1 small neoscrypt rig hashing away as I type and still nothing is showing on my stats page. If you need more info or anything you can feel free to PM me here.
Thanks
Best Regards

Try pressing F5. We are about to finally resolve this issue.

Hi Nicehash,

what happend with your site the last days ? Many many times when i try to open your page i get only the maintance frontend ?!? I like your service , but when that is your new quality after all the updates i will look about a new pool. i dont understand for what all the updates, never touch a running system !

What is difficulty payout?

We have no intentions to put up bitcoin mining pool - we do not have enough hashing power to eliminate big payment variance due to the luck.

Your idea sounds very complicated for a simple solution that already exists:
Have 2 pools, first NH with p= and second one to PPLN pool, use both with same BTC address. Many miners already use this to mine. Even if frontend is down and price goes below your treshold, you will mine on your backup pool.

No you misunderstand what I am saying.. 

Currently the way things are the Buyer of hashrate has all the Control of the market.





First: you (NiceHash) need to start a new PPLNS Pool that gives a guaranteed payout based on current difficulty I think it is somewhere in the .01096 per TH/s Range.

Second: you (NiceHash) need to start a new SELLER Login that allows me to offer my hashrate for XXbtc TH/s

Third: you (see the pattern) get your scrypt-kiddies to write some code that allows our miner to point to one address and it will Automatically switch out to either the PPS/Market pool or to the PPLNS pool

Sellers should be able to login to the Nice hash website just like a buyer does and offer a certain hashrate for whatever price they dictate, in the meantime I would still ( as the seller ) be pointing my Miner to your pplns pool.

the problem with the current system is that your Buyers can set a price lower than the Difficulty reward and that is NOT FAIR to the seller.. and when your website is down... nobody can see what is really happening and who is getting screwed.


OR ( ALTERNATE SOLUTION ) Pay attention here because this one is the SIMPLE solution that solves everything....

Stop allowing buyers to specify a price lower than the difficulty payout.... Problem solved

Here is the bottom line what's done is done, if you feel cheated LEAVE because your in the minority.
I seriously doubt if nicehash would take their website offline just to get a few hours of cheap mining that's really a rediculous assumption. I'd be willing to bet nicehash lost more than they gained from the outage. However even if nicehash staff ran the numbers and determined an outage at that particular time would make them more money, (which I highly highly doubt), besides deciding to no longer do business with them there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do about it now. I had 6 rigs on 5 algos running during the outage and although my charts show no hashing being done the orange line showing profit in bitcoins continues to go up at the same pace. As somebody has shown in a previous post showing the orange line before the outage connecting to the orange line after the outage. So although the chart has a blank spot the profits were still increasing at the same rate with maybe the exception of algo's that had high paying orders run out during that time. NiceHash should not and I guarantee you will NOT pay you anything, besides the fact that most can see they were in fact paid correctly, there is no way you can prove that you were mining that entire time and that you should have made x number of bitcoins but you only received y amount. So please just drop it, your wasting your time.

Well I did do the math and really didn't have to, since hours remaining for certain orders are listed.  But going upon current orders there is no way that within 7 hours the price would go from .5522 BTC/Gh/day to less than .13.  Let alone be less than .25 for the majority of those hours. But i guess well never know what orders were in there before the "server crash" unless someone had screenied it.  Let alone we don't really know who the ones are who have the low orders that will never be hit on normal circumstances.

Also I still havent received any reply from the email sent to support from before I ever posted here yesterday.  I hope that you guys didnt plan this but I still have removed all my miners from your network to be safe.  Something is strange here.

I do wanna say this for those still using or have intentions of using.  I have had no problems before this and think this is easily the better of the 2-3 pools similar to this, simply based on volume of orders.  When things are working properly they work great and the payout is better than if you would hash the coins directly.

+1. Also, when the front end is down, I can still find out what NH is paying by using this link: http://cryp.today/current

This feature we already have since begining: p= https://www.nicehash.com/?p=faq#faqs4

Unfortunately, for some antminer S5 users it may cause issues - idling. Yet again (remember old idlebug?), there is some code error in cgminer that is being used by antminer S5. We have already escalated this issue to parties that may offer the updated firmware version in near future.

To follow up on this, I was mining SHA256 and saw no drop in pay.  The order books weren't accessible, so this makes sense.

I use the nicehash servers to sell and it is always the same pay every day (roughly given rates go up and down) so even when they are down on the web interface I always seem to get properly paid for my hashes.

but the web server seems to be down way too often.. as it is right now.. I am surprised at how often the web interface just does not work and I blindly assume everything is OK... and so far its all been good.

the biggest complaint I have is since I don't really know what the rates that I am getting paid for it makes me want to switch pools and it seems I am asking myself this everyday for the past week because the web interface is down again.

In my opinion these guys provide an excellent service and I am hoping these web problems get resolved.


If anybody from nicehash reads this... I am curious if you can give a little more control to sellers in the way our miners produce...   my antminer will run for hours if my price is not met my shares just get discarded.. but it is still doing its job I am just not getting any reward..  so I cant really set a price because it would be counterproductive as market conditions change.. however.... if you provided an auto switch out solution so if my price cannot be met then I go to a nicehash pool that pays a set value based on standard PPLNS pool rather than a PPS/Market pool.

in situations like what happened on Thursday the Buyers of hash Made out like bandits on Quark for example and, had the downtime been extended it possibly would have greater effect on SHA256.

however if the sellers could also place an order on your system and bid out their hash rate to a certain price range and if the range cannot be met then switch out to a PPLNS Pool then you would not have a major crisis.

... Meh I don't know what the hell I am talking about its probably too much work for little reward

Different algorithms and service locations were differently affected. For some (Sha256 and Scrypt on NiceHash) were almost unaffected, because these most likely had big fat orders with enough of BTC loaded.

Quark on NiceHash for example, was severly affected - I remember the price was 10 times lower than usual when we started web back up, but then in few minutes price went up as buyers started placing new orders.

A lot of buyers do not put a lot of BTC, they rather use refill method every so often. If you check Quark order list now, you can see that not a single order has more than 0.2 BTC as remaining balance. The total hashpower of Quark before outtage was around 50 GH/s and the total when service came back around 30. You can do some simple math to figure out that these slim orders were quickly depletted in hours of downtime.

Also worth to note is that with parameter p= we give every miner an option to stop mining if price falls below this treshold. Not a single other pool has this option. If you do not want to mine for change, you should always set this parameter. Did you use it?

We did not skim or earn any BTC from this unfortunate event. Buyers are paying miners. The only beneficiers of this event are buyers that placed low paying orders. Maybe you should blame them, because they didn't put high enough prices.

You don't understand what troll means obviously but ill let you humor me.  This is just for 2 miners on quark algo.  I really don't feel like spending more wasted time uploading the other 5 charts.

Hi,

Thank you all for you support and please note that even statistics is broken, all shares have been paid for. It is however true that the payout rate was lower than usual in a particular intervals due to high paying orders being depleted before buyers could re-load or re-submit them due to web interface being down for the time of the maintenance. This only lasted for a few hours, nevertheless it should not happen and we're sorry for it.

Once again, sorry for all the troubles!

Kind regards,
NiceHash