Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool - page 173. (Read 794394 times)

Post proof.  I think you're a completely full of shit troll.

Mine were exactly where they'd be expected, especially with about 40 minutes of failover to the backup pool.

The payouts are definitely lower than where it should have been, but it's alright, getting angry or fighting over a few bucks doesn't really cut it for me. It just disturbs the schedule of the amount of BTC to be expected at a certain day.

Although Cidman has a point that as they mentioned "shares would be counted during the downtime", yea, not so sure about that. The only thing I'm pretty strict in life is when one gives their word and doesn't keep it. By saying this, no amount of BTC can really keep up with what's morally wrong.

Mine wasn't even half of what it was at that time the last full day of hashing, I should say. Lucky you tho.

no worries ...

i have been in this 'industry' for a while now ...

i have seen a lot happen ... some of it not nice - and unfortunately unfair ...

but i honestly dont see nicehash as being one of those unless they have done something seriously wrong ...

i guess its 'part and parcel' of this whole crypto world ... the risks you take - even in the fiat world ...

but at least there are regulations and responsibilities with consequences in the fiat world ... although there are always those times where the fiat world is highly unfair also ...

chat to them mate - voice your concerns and see what they do ...

who knows what will happen - i sure as hell dont ...

besides - IF nicehash did do this for a few btc - what state does that show of nicehash and the way they operate? ...

i can guarantee that they wont last very long at all IF that was the case ...

#crysx

Yup, gotcha. You were too fast as I was editing my last post read above please.  Thanks for at least taking the time to try and calm me down a bit. You did and I appreciate it.

This... People renting their rigs who stuck it out and stayed will be rewarded by the same amount of BTC, even if there's a few hours of missing stats.

Like chrysophylax said, people have choices. When the profitability margin fell today (or seemed to fall due to messed up stats), I pointed my miners elsewhere. When things returned to normal, I brought them back to Nicehash.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, cidman. But I for one get tired of people who substitute anger for logic. Public accusations with nothing to back them up is not helpful.

It's is far more likely that what happened today is largely as indicated by Nicehash. Things went off the rails and are back now. They didn't orchestrate this in order to pocket gobs of BTC.

fair enough ...

then what can be done about it? ...

thats the point im trying to make ...

move the business elsewhere if they are that unscrupulous ...

especially if they have NO explanation whatsoever ...

i have my eyes wide open - and i see that no matter which way you look at this - its going to be a dead end unless nicehash come out and actually DO something about reimbursement or the like ...

and that is IF they feel that what they have done is wrong ... not IF they are proven to be wrong ...

enter the arena - lose an arm - tell everyone it was unfair and you want your arm back ... you entered the arena in the first place ...

this is not sparta - its crypto ... and it shits me too ...

#crysx

I can't speak for anyone else, but my dashboard doesn't show any data from the down time, but the payout once the graphing resumed is exactly where it should have been.

The proof is they acted like nothing was wrong, they kept the stratum servers up, everyone in the network lost besides them, they guaranteed made out like bandits in not paying proper pay rates, and they failed to reply to any support emails on my end.
That is not any assumptions that is definitive proof.

Also i am a webmaster and if I chose a host that had that much downtime I would be fired from my job.  I understand you trying to discourage the word scam. But if it looks and smells like a scam and everyone loses besides one person its most likely a scam. Today was the only day this week I could hash all day because of heat concerns and I am now in the red.

Also I have taken your advice, in the future when something like this happens elsewhere I will simply move everything manually to just avoid the headache.

thats just it ...

validity ...

assumptions as to what you ASSUMED they did based on your observations - as opposed to what they ACTUALLY did - based on - well - nothing that we can actually PROVE ...

i SEE quite well ... its just that if there was a governing body around - EVERYONE would have to comply ... but there isnt - sso assumptions are nothing more than YOUR opinion ...

which you are free to convey in the public arena ...

i agree with you that those who are unscrupulous SHOULD be caught out and hung to dry in public - so to warn others about it ...

but have the proof - not just assume ...

'look what happened here' and 'open your eyes and see the loss' are not statements of proof ...

it is a difficult thing this crypto world ... i sympathize with you - honestly ... i have lost also ...

but in a world where there is no governing body ( to make everyone responsible for their actions ) is just asking for this sort of thing to happen on a regular basis ( if indeed nicehash actually did 'rip off' coin - which i personally doubt ) ... entering this world is entering into a risk factor that is higher than most ...

we do it with our farm - we do it with our fiat - we do it with our time and effort ...

if you cant lose it - dont do it ... that what we live by ...

im not backing nicehash - im simply stating that by using their service ( or ANY service for that matter - which are NOT governed by ANYTHING but risk ) then expect downtime and issues and anomalies ...

your point is valid - but other than voice your opinion on your assumptions - what else can you do but put in a complaint and move your hashrate elsewhere ...

is there a legal precedence i dont know about that that you can use to chase this loss of hashrate? ...

#crysx

You are obviously blind. Take just what I am missing from my unpaid balance and multiply that by 100 or maybe even 1000 and its absolutely exponential.  As a organized pool they could have easily shut down the stratum servers so we would be forced to backups but they did not.  Clear your eyes dude they made so much BTC from this today it's stupid, whether they tried to or not .
And a new account has nothing to do with the relevance of my statement. Just because I have never had anything to say on this forum till now has nothing to do with the validity of my claim.

scammed? ...

there is that ridiculous word again ...

you know its a VERY simple thing that miners can do ... as we do with our farm ...

IF you ( as a miner ) are unsure for ANY reason - then you ( as a miner ) have the right and 'should' have the diligence of taking your hashrate elsewhere ...

we do ...

but we sure as hell wont call someone a scammer just because they had a hard time with their isp - unless we have concrete proof ...

especially coming from a newbie account ...

so predictable - its bloody amazing ...

#crysx

Nicehash/Westhash obviously just scammed hours of hashing at low/not profitable rates for anyone. I for one have removed all my miners from their network till we are properly compensated.

I still think there are 3 hours of mining not paid. I didnt switch to other algos.

Hi,

Issues with the web server are now resolved. Sorry for all the troubles, but our server provider had serious issues with the infrastructure.

During the time of web server maintenance all stratum servers were running and all shares have been accounted for and will be paid as usual according to our pay schedule.

Once again, sorry for this extreme downtime, but it was truly out of our hands and we worked hard hand-in-hand with our provider to resolve the issues.

Thanks!
Kind regards,
NiceHash

My client tells me you had an outage this afternoon. Does it count against anyone's profit for that period of time? I would think that since the back end was up for most of the time? all contributing miners are covered, correct?

Seems awfully hard to believe that over those four hours that many orders completed.  Earlier in the day maybe two hours before the outage I looked at the orders page and it seemed like good paying orders were plentiful and long lasting.  .....but okay.

Here are some updates now:
- Stats are missing, because stats are generated on Web server, which wasn't running.
- Immediately after relaunch, we saw many algorithms paying way below what you might have been used to in past days/weeks. This is because many orders completed - ran out of BTCs, your miners switched to lower paying orders. If using p= parameter, your miners switched off NH/WH if the price went below your price threshold.
- Unpaid balances will not change. These are pretty accurately measured due to PPS reward system (there are no unexchanged coins you would wait for like on other multipools).

I also think that something is missing. My unpaid balance didnt go up like it should.
Maybe it will update in the next hours. I hope so..