Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool - page 28. (Read 794443 times)
December 20, 2017, 06:21:55 PM
Well they have just said that all balances will be paid back. I suppose they are getting a loan or investment or something. If that is the case, then I'd like to take back all I've said against nicehash and hope all goes well in the future. I still don't like the idea of the difficulty of coins I mine being crushed soon though...
December 20, 2017, 05:08:12 PM
They will not be offering full reimbursement, of that I am sure. They will offer some scheme whereby you get zero fees until you paid back, and then in a couple of years when the wallet is looking fat again, there will be another "hacking" and they will so sorry and claim to be working with the "authorities" etc.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
No need for rinse and repeat.
But they will do what you say maybe 1% fees. vs 3% for buyer and seller.
This would be to losers of coin such as myself as a seller or a buyer of hash
I lost say
account 1 100 usd
account 2 400 usd
account 3 450 usd
about 950 usd
If I pay 1% vs 3% I gain 2% a week and in a year I am paid off. While I think it is shitty method of repayment it could work.
This doesn't make sense. If they went to zero fees then in a year I would have an extra 3% on what I earned. I lost $3000 so I would need to eventually earn $100,000 to be made whole. I wish!
December 20, 2017, 12:22:53 PM
They will not be offering full reimbursement, of that I am sure. They will offer some scheme whereby you get zero fees until you paid back, and then in a couple of years when the wallet is looking fat again, there will be another "hacking" and they will so sorry and claim to be working with the "authorities" etc.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
No need for rinse and repeat.
But they will do what you say maybe 1% fees. vs 3% for buyer and seller.
This would be to losers of coin such as myself as a seller or a buyer of hash
I lost say
account 1 100 usd
account 2 400 usd
account 3 450 usd
about 950 usd
If I pay 1% vs 3% I gain 2% a week and in a year I am paid off. While I think it is shitty method of repayment it could work.
Yeah...the logic is sound but they could also do 3% and pay incrementally back into user accounts. For example, I would not use nicehash for mining due to mining other things - but at the time of the hack, due to being lazy, I had a couple of rigs on there for some time. In that scenario I would not be paid back. But i do see that would incentivize people to use their service again. I have very mixed feelings about nicehash now. Even Zawawa quit nicehash before the hack and is now doing gatelessgate sharp (its nice, check it out). I just dont trust them.
December 20, 2017, 09:47:37 AM
They will not be offering full reimbursement, of that I am sure. They will offer some scheme whereby you get zero fees until you paid back, and then in a couple of years when the wallet is looking fat again, there will be another "hacking" and they will so sorry and claim to be working with the "authorities" etc.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
No need for rinse and repeat.
But they will do what you say maybe 1% fees. vs 3% for buyer and seller.
This would be to losers of coin such as myself as a seller or a buyer of hash
I lost say
account 1 100 usd
account 2 400 usd
account 3 450 usd
about 950 usd
If I pay 1% vs 3% I gain 2% a week and in a year I am paid off. While I think it is shitty method of repayment it could work.
December 20, 2017, 09:46:28 AM
Will NiceScam really come back?
I will not rely on them when they come back. Even if all BTCs are refunded.
Perhaps they will repeat the scam.
I will not rely on them when they come back. Even if all BTCs are refunded.
Perhaps they will repeat the scam.
December 20, 2017, 06:19:06 AM
They will not be offering full reimbursement, of that I am sure. They will offer some scheme whereby you get zero fees until you paid back, and then in a couple of years when the wallet is looking fat again, there will be another "hacking" and they will so sorry and claim to be working with the "authorities" etc.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
Zero fees to reimburse who ? Only sellers ? As a buyer, I can say we lost a lot too.
December 20, 2017, 01:39:51 AM
They will not be offering full reimbursement, of that I am sure. They will offer some scheme whereby you get zero fees until you paid back, and then in a couple of years when the wallet is looking fat again, there will be another "hacking" and they will so sorry and claim to be working with the "authorities" etc.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
December 20, 2017, 12:45:07 AM
I laughed when I read "rest assured"
rest assured it is
rest assured it is
December 19, 2017, 10:03:40 PM
Is it possible to mine in a NiceHash pool using hashing power rented from NiceHash?
No, this would lead to self-loop and is not supported.
Best regards,
NiceHash team
so any info on payback for us renters you owe me close to 1000 usd.
December 19, 2017, 04:19:28 PM
When is the class-action lawsuit getting started?
it was a classic exit scam your money is gone
I saw this in twitter:
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
Oh my god!
Another proof for exit Scam.
We saw their faces.
We know where they are and we know who they are.
Someone call Police. We have to bring them to court.
I think if we all do Lawsuit together we'll get back our money sooner.
We need a campaign right now
This is a legal way for getting back the money. but If it does not work we can call Mafia for getting back our money in illegal way.
What are you talknig about? did you guys read CEO speaks at wikitribune?
Seems i was wrong like you but More info for you
Quote
Q: What steps will NiceHash take to regain its customers trust?
A: The support we have received from our community during this crisis has been immense. We are truly moved by the tens of thousands of messages from our community of miners. We are taking all the necessary steps to re-establish our systems with bullet-proof security protocols, and enable miners to start earning money again.
We understand why everyone is upset, and we are truly sorry. We are taking responsibility and want to demonstrate the openness and transparency which is the cornerstone of the world in which we work.
We know we have to build up trust again, we know that, but the overwhelming majority of our community of nearly 750,000 registered users have been very supportive and want us to get the site up and running so they can start making money, mining and leasing again.
It will take time but we are working on a solution to ensure all users are reimbursed. That is clearly a key concern for our users, and we understand this, we are not running away from our responsibilities. As soon as we have a plan in place we will update all users on our intended solution, and we’re sorry for any inconvenience which has been caused.
We’re going to make sure that we learn from this and come back even stronger and safer.
Q: What’s the likelihood of the company covering more than $60m in losses? Are you able to compensate users?
A: We fully intend to make this right. It’s a matter of deep concern to us and we’re working hard to rectify the matter in the coming days. We’re working on a solution to ensure that all users are reimbursed. These things are delicate matters, and take time, so we would ask our community to be patient while we get this fixed and fully investigated. As soon as we have a full plan in place we will communicate it to our users and all those affected
A: The support we have received from our community during this crisis has been immense. We are truly moved by the tens of thousands of messages from our community of miners. We are taking all the necessary steps to re-establish our systems with bullet-proof security protocols, and enable miners to start earning money again.
We understand why everyone is upset, and we are truly sorry. We are taking responsibility and want to demonstrate the openness and transparency which is the cornerstone of the world in which we work.
We know we have to build up trust again, we know that, but the overwhelming majority of our community of nearly 750,000 registered users have been very supportive and want us to get the site up and running so they can start making money, mining and leasing again.
It will take time but we are working on a solution to ensure all users are reimbursed. That is clearly a key concern for our users, and we understand this, we are not running away from our responsibilities. As soon as we have a plan in place we will update all users on our intended solution, and we’re sorry for any inconvenience which has been caused.
We’re going to make sure that we learn from this and come back even stronger and safer.
Q: What’s the likelihood of the company covering more than $60m in losses? Are you able to compensate users?
A: We fully intend to make this right. It’s a matter of deep concern to us and we’re working hard to rectify the matter in the coming days. We’re working on a solution to ensure that all users are reimbursed. These things are delicate matters, and take time, so we would ask our community to be patient while we get this fixed and fully investigated. As soon as we have a full plan in place we will communicate it to our users and all those affected
https://www.wikitribune.com/story/2017/12/11/technology/nicehash-ceo-speaks-out-after-60m-cryptocurrency-hack/27212/
I haven't read one. everything about repaying affected users will be cleaned tomorrow.
If Nicehash is done or isn't, will be clarified tomorrow for me.
Quote from: nicehash
NiceHash is coming back tomorrow!
Dear miners:
Final checks are in progress and NiceHash.com platform will be back online and operational tomorrow, December 20, 2017 until 24.00 CET.
Dear miners:
Final checks are in progress and NiceHash.com platform will be back online and operational tomorrow, December 20, 2017 until 24.00 CET.
December 18, 2017, 02:15:37 PM
@Irlasos what cold wallets? lol
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
waiting for official investigation
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
Please read the image I posted some posts ago. They clearly explained they use cold wallets.
Nicehash has explained many things to this date, how many of them were true remains to be seen, the entire cold wallets thing though it's almost certain it wasn't like that at all.
The bottom line is that those 4k btc where there for the taking, too big of a temptation, who took them for real we will never know for sure.
December 18, 2017, 09:40:13 AM
I saw this in twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ91uSSUIAAdOpb.jpg
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ91uSSUIAAdOpb.jpg
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
Oh my god!
Another proof for exit Scam.
We saw their faces.
We know where they are and we know who they are.
Someone call Police. We have to bring them to court.
I think if we all do Lawsuit together we'll get back our money sooner.
We need a campaign right now
This is a legal way for getting back the money. but If it does not work we can call Mafia for getting back our money in illegal way.
Maybe we can just stop all these "conspiracy theories".... Or we will consider everything in this world is a scam.
Maybe because human greed made lots of things "a scam" nowadays?
December 18, 2017, 07:06:18 AM
I saw this in twitter:
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
Oh my god!
Another proof for exit Scam.
We saw their faces.
We know where they are and we know who they are.
Someone call Police. We have to bring them to court.
I think if we all do Lawsuit together we'll get back our money sooner.
We need a campaign right now
This is a legal way for getting back the money. but If it does not work we can call Mafia for getting back our money in illegal way.
Maybe we can just stop all these "conspiracy theories".... Or we will consider everything in this world is a scam.
December 18, 2017, 05:49:41 AM
@Irlasos what cold wallets? lol
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
waiting for official investigation
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
Please read the image I posted some posts ago. They clearly explained they use cold wallets.
December 18, 2017, 01:53:28 AM
@Irlasos what cold wallets? lol
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
they were dropped over a year ago from bitgo (before BitGo went defunct) as they refused to HAVE cold wallets, stating "needing funds for payouts" (kinda true, but 4000 BTC worth? ya, um, no. )
waiting for official investigation
from...? they were based in Solvenia, i have friends there, they assure me the detectives there couldn't find a paper bag.
good luck on THAT, do you even have a statement from them (authorities) ?, or only the paid propaganda from random sites from reddit? lol....
December 18, 2017, 01:34:27 AM
waiting for official investigation
December 17, 2017, 06:28:57 AM
When is the class-action lawsuit getting started?
it was a classic exit scam your money is gone
I saw this in twitter:
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
So, can you explain how you get hacked cold wallets ?
Oh my god!
Another proof for exit Scam.
We saw their faces.
We know where they are and we know who they are.
Someone call Police. We have to bring them to court.
I think if we all do Lawsuit together we'll get back our money sooner.
We need a campaign right now
This is a legal way for getting back the money. but If it does not work we can call Mafia for getting back our money in illegal way.
What are you talknig about? did you guys read CEO speaks at wikitribune?
Seems i was wrong like you but More info for you
Quote
Q: What steps will NiceHash take to regain its customers trust?
A: The support we have received from our community during this crisis has been immense. We are truly moved by the tens of thousands of messages from our community of miners. We are taking all the necessary steps to re-establish our systems with bullet-proof security protocols, and enable miners to start earning money again.
We understand why everyone is upset, and we are truly sorry. We are taking responsibility and want to demonstrate the openness and transparency which is the cornerstone of the world in which we work.
We know we have to build up trust again, we know that, but the overwhelming majority of our community of nearly 750,000 registered users have been very supportive and want us to get the site up and running so they can start making money, mining and leasing again.
It will take time but we are working on a solution to ensure all users are reimbursed. That is clearly a key concern for our users, and we understand this, we are not running away from our responsibilities. As soon as we have a plan in place we will update all users on our intended solution, and we’re sorry for any inconvenience which has been caused.
We’re going to make sure that we learn from this and come back even stronger and safer.
Q: What’s the likelihood of the company covering more than $60m in losses? Are you able to compensate users?
A: We fully intend to make this right. It’s a matter of deep concern to us and we’re working hard to rectify the matter in the coming days. We’re working on a solution to ensure that all users are reimbursed. These things are delicate matters, and take time, so we would ask our community to be patient while we get this fixed and fully investigated. As soon as we have a full plan in place we will communicate it to our users and all those affected
A: The support we have received from our community during this crisis has been immense. We are truly moved by the tens of thousands of messages from our community of miners. We are taking all the necessary steps to re-establish our systems with bullet-proof security protocols, and enable miners to start earning money again.
We understand why everyone is upset, and we are truly sorry. We are taking responsibility and want to demonstrate the openness and transparency which is the cornerstone of the world in which we work.
We know we have to build up trust again, we know that, but the overwhelming majority of our community of nearly 750,000 registered users have been very supportive and want us to get the site up and running so they can start making money, mining and leasing again.
It will take time but we are working on a solution to ensure all users are reimbursed. That is clearly a key concern for our users, and we understand this, we are not running away from our responsibilities. As soon as we have a plan in place we will update all users on our intended solution, and we’re sorry for any inconvenience which has been caused.
We’re going to make sure that we learn from this and come back even stronger and safer.
Q: What’s the likelihood of the company covering more than $60m in losses? Are you able to compensate users?
A: We fully intend to make this right. It’s a matter of deep concern to us and we’re working hard to rectify the matter in the coming days. We’re working on a solution to ensure that all users are reimbursed. These things are delicate matters, and take time, so we would ask our community to be patient while we get this fixed and fully investigated. As soon as we have a full plan in place we will communicate it to our users and all those affected
https://www.wikitribune.com/story/2017/12/11/technology/nicehash-ceo-speaks-out-after-60m-cryptocurrency-hack/27212/
It does not explain how their cold wallets were compromised.
December 17, 2017, 06:17:06 AM
I'm very sorry for each and every satoshi anyone lost in this journey, however, let me share you a piece of advice even though it's a bit too late...
Next time you think to "invest" something into project related in any way with Balkan people, just don't.
Close the tab.
Shut down the computer.
Go away.
Forget about the project forever.
Never forget about NOT INVESTING INTO BALKAN SCAMS.
(For those who have no idea what "Balkan" is: https://www.google.com/search?q=balkan&oq=balkan&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.782j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Also, DON'T INVEST INTO BALKAN SCAMS fellas, like seriously...
Next time you think to "invest" something into project related in any way with Balkan people, just don't.
Close the tab.
Shut down the computer.
Go away.
Forget about the project forever.
Never forget about NOT INVESTING INTO BALKAN SCAMS.
(For those who have no idea what "Balkan" is: https://www.google.com/search?q=balkan&oq=balkan&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.782j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Also, DON'T INVEST INTO BALKAN SCAMS fellas, like seriously...
invest ? Not getting paid has nothing to do with investment
"Not getting paid" means that you did invest something (your time, your effort, hashing power or whatever else) and therefore expect something else in return (coins, money, recognition or whatever else). Not receiving the latter in any form can always be interpreted as "not getting paid".
I can rephrase my advice also: DON'T TRUST BALKAN PROMISES, IN WHICHEVER FORM THEY APPEAR! (and never forget to do your homework
) December 17, 2017, 12:43:34 AM
Someone got one of the engineers credentials? LOL were the cold storage wallets encrypted, I am very sure they were, so how the heck did they get the pass phrase also!
December 16, 2017, 11:59:14 PM
I think most likely is they will restart and say they will repay the moneys with zero fees for those with a stolen credit until the credit is repaid. That won't help me as it would take years for me to get back the $3000 I lost and in any case, I will not be using them again even with zero fees.
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