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Topic: [ANN] NoirShares UPDATE REQUIRED Advanced Features✔, Unique PoW✔ - page 16. (Read 69989 times)

legendary
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My mule don't like people laughing
No connections in the wallet. Can't sync.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000

I am off to work on some new products, I have joined the Circle team and have made a bid for a cooperative project with the Memorycoin team. More to come, stay tuned.

So with that said, how about giving some insight in the books of the NoirGroup General Fund? How many BTC was mined with our equipment up till today?

That information was already provided. The miners were taken offline when I left as I was unsure about my return.

As for your beliefs of me being a scammer I will disband the mining operation effective immediately. Quite disappointed with some people's actions I have decided that it is not worth the trouble. I'll require a vote on liquidation of the assets.

If anyone disagrees , the action is open to a vote.


Also I am modifying the terms of GF members, I followed the advice and desires of some of you which resulted in these bad circumstances.

The following are immediate and not subject to vote.

1) no more officers , that was not as effective as it should have been

2) Unless I expressly say so all projects will be done I collaboration with other groups.

3 ) GF members will receive payments once a month only from NRS , all future projects will have GF allocation only once in the beginning.

4) because I am the only developer and basically a one man team , my salary is drawn directly from GF earnings.

All GF members must note that your payouts are relative to useage of NRS and any future projects, as a result you can't expect anything from me unless there is activity on the chain.


These changes are not reflected in NRS as it is a product from before these changes. The NRS chain still maintains the previous structure and will operate under that management structure.

As of now I am exploring Bitshares toolkit , colored coins and the Circle wallet. All of which will have potential earnings for GF members.

ALL GF MEMBERS MUST PM ME THEIR NEW NRS ADDRESSES. I am still holding NRS that belongs to you and would like to pay it out.

Please note that you are due 34k NRS.
sr. member
Activity: 379
Merit: 250

I am off to work on some new products, I have joined the Circle team and have made a bid for a cooperative project with the Memorycoin team. More to come, stay tuned.

So with that said, how about giving some insight in the books of the NoirGroup General Fund? How many BTC was mined with our equipment up till today?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Many understand that they are joining a infantile industry and they are prepared to accept the certain risks that come with the potential rewards.

Others come expecting easy rewards where somebody else does the work and takes the risks for them.
Those things never go together.

So this *GENERAL WARNING* is placed here as a caution to all:

This is an industry under development.
You have a chance to participate in that development.

Its products are highly experimental, immature, and full of bugs.

They are likely to break on you at the worst possible time.
You should not trust them. You should double check everything they do. You should experiment with very small amounts before doing anything big. You should not do anything big. You should realize that what worked yesterday should be double-checked today. You should diligently backup your wallet. You should only use the software I Barwizi tell you to or software that has the Circle  or Noir Certificate.

You could wait until it is perfect before you participate.
But by then the rewards you might get would be reduced by as much as the risks.

The only guarantee is my utmost best efforts. All else falls under I don't know what is going on, but I will try to help category.

Noone is forced to use the code and we are all responsible for our investments. Always weigh your risk vs reward and make sure it's in your bracket.

With that said, happy gaming, mining and trolling.

I am off to work on some new products, I have joined the Circle team and have made a bid for a cooperative project with the Memorycoin team. More to come, stay tuned.

*original by Stan Larimer *
legendary
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https://github.com/NoirX/NoirShares

You can now download the wallet from the above link

All other advanced features will be added in sometime next week.


Hi Barwizi,

Is this a stable and functioning wallet ? Or is it better to wait untill a definite wallet is available ?

And can you please tell which file the newest wallet is ?
I see alot of documents and I'm not quite sure which one is the latest wallet.

Thank you !



The Windows wallet is labeled release.7z

From my own testing, all current functions work.  However as we have all witnessed , deployment environment is very different. Please confirm your balance.

Current build is 1.0.5
sr. member
Activity: 413
Merit: 250
https://github.com/NoirX/NoirShares

You can now download the wallet from the above link

All other advanced features will be added in sometime next week.


Hi Barwizi,

Is this a stable and functioning wallet ? Or is it better to wait untill a definite wallet is available ?

And can you please tell which file the newest wallet is ?
I see alot of documents and I'm not quite sure which one is the latest wallet.

Thank you !

legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
https://github.com/NoirX/NoirShares

You can now download the wallet from the above link

All other advanced features will be added in sometime next week.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Simply put, here is my proposal, Lotto draws should not be on a block basis but actually a checkpoint block basis. This means maybe one checkpoint per 12 hours / 360 blocks.

I agree with you. The LTS implementation had blocks occurring once every 40 seconds or something. By the end of the year, the block chain files would have been massive in size.  It couldn't scale that way.

On the other hand every 12 hours is a bit slow before a lottery draw too though. How about 1/2 that?  Someone buys a lottery ticket at the beginning of their work shift.  By the time they leave to go home, they'd find out their lottery win if they worked an 8 hour shift.


While pondering I pondered into a pond :-

 If our blocks are produced at nearly one at a time and are almost always propagated across the network before the next one , we are less likely to have consistent forks are we not ?
Maybe my reasoning is flawed, but look at it this way,

4 minute blocks (lots time for network propagation) vs 40 seconds
No GPU ASIC mining, in built miner only (for now). Vs scrypt mining (merged even)

Should already mitigate the issues involved with short block times and forking due to different block counts or hashes.

Correct me if I am wrong, because this is one issue that seems to solve itself with the current implementation.


full member
Activity: 214
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Simply put, here is my proposal, Lotto draws should not be on a block basis but actually a checkpoint block basis. This means maybe one checkpoint per 12 hours / 360 blocks.

I agree with you. The LTS implementation had blocks occurring once every 40 seconds or something. By the end of the year, the block chain files would have been massive in size.  It couldn't scale that way.

On the other hand every 12 hours is a bit slow before a lottery draw too though. How about 1/2 that?  Someone buys a lottery ticket at the beginning of their work shift.  By the time they leave to go home, they'd find out their lottery win if they worked an 8 hour shift.
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100

Thanks for that link.  Can you give us a couple sentence blurb about why you referenced it.

For instance, I'm assuming your not involved with the CIYAM AT project?

How does that link fit into the new Noirshares-NOPOS project? Are you using a similar design somehow?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
The forks I think are a result of every miner generating a checkpoint. So then lets have a more sane (network-wise) method.

As for keeping the draw decentralized, lets deal with that after forking.

I am hoping someone will work with me pointing out any problems with my proposed fixes.
legendary
Activity: 882
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Thanks for trying Barwizi

Out of the door, we might have a significant issue.  This Noirshares-NOPOS appears to be based on Lottoshares, which project has just been abandoned by the developer for the following reasons:

(From another topic thread named "( Re: LottoShares - Dice 0% Edge - 80LTS Airdrop to all DOGE owners")



Update:

I've been trying to resolve two problems with LottoShares but have not managed to do so.

The first is a forking problem when the checkpointing server is running. The checkpointing server allows draws to take place but causes forks to take place when checkpoints aren't accepted by some clients.

The second is decentralizing the draw/random number generation. Using the block hash and a private key to generate unpredictable randomness is centralized and ultimately unsatisfactory. I think the second problem may only be resolvable in the context of a (bitshares style) delegate model.

Unfortunately I've been unable to resolve these problems in LTS despite a huge amount of effort. I have now decided to redirect my efforts to other projects.

Thanks to everybody who took part and I'm sorry it didn't turn out as well as we had all hoped.




Simply put, here is my proposal, Lotto draws should not be on a block basis but actually a checkpoint block basis. This means maybe one checkpoint per 12 hours / 360 blocks.

We have an RNG the one that issues out the PoW rewards, I believe that we can use it to keep the system decentralized, I already knew about these issues and you'll find I mentioned them a lot of times. But like anything else in programming, the problem is making coherent modifications that will endure.

Here's what I am doing, I am working in the field ( hence the delays) but by Friday , I will have a report as I am taking the whole day off to deal with this **cough "i'm sick"

And he is right, Bitshares is solving a lot of issues everyone should take time to read about it.
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100

Thanks for trying Barwizi

Out of the door, we might have a significant issue.  This Noirshares-NOPOS appears to be based on Lottoshares, which project has just been abandoned by the developer for the following reasons:

(From another topic thread named "( Re: LottoShares - Dice 0% Edge - 80LTS Airdrop to all DOGE owners")



Update:

I've been trying to resolve two problems with LottoShares but have not managed to do so.

The first is a forking problem when the checkpointing server is running. The checkpointing server allows draws to take place but causes forks to take place when checkpoints aren't accepted by some clients.

The second is decentralizing the draw/random number generation. Using the block hash and a private key to generate unpredictable randomness is centralized and ultimately unsatisfactory. I think the second problem may only be resolvable in the context of a (bitshares style) delegate model.

Unfortunately I've been unable to resolve these problems in LTS despite a huge amount of effort. I have now decided to redirect my efforts to other projects.

Thanks to everybody who took part and I'm sorry it didn't turn out as well as we had all hoped.


legendary
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I can't do a windows build yet.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
HGPUPC addicted!
Even now I'm coding on my tablet just to push things through. I probably will upload two versions of the code by end of day. One has PoS and the other does not. Whichever is most stable will become the active one.

Any news on the code or wallet update?

Cmon man...how big of a bagholder are you that you still give a shit?  Cut your losses and move on...you're better off using your energy elsewhere.

This was nothing but a well played scam by Barwizi, he got what he wanted so why should he deliver anything in any sort of respectable time?  Move along, do yourself a favor and get over it!

I really don't get it.. if there is so much "bad about it.." why to bother? Please.. don't post.. just go... if you post I will have to read your post.. and then the others posts.. and afterwards the post responding to you.. ARHRHRHHHRHR!! It's crazy man! come on.. this is supposed to be community forum and I am sure that someday bot's will only allow good content messages (not like the one I am just posting for example).. We got your message and other users messages too.. there is no need to repeat all of them again, over and over... otherwise I would consider it a place for reporting the user.

Do yourself also a favor =) and to me specifically: use your fingers to code something useful or stop this posts please. It will save your keyboard.

Please don't take this as an offence post. I am freeing my mind and making you see the good side of it.
hero member
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Even now I'm coding on my tablet just to push things through. I probably will upload two versions of the code by end of day. One has PoS and the other does not. Whichever is most stable will become the active one.

Any news on the code or wallet update?

Cmon man...how big of a bagholder are you that you still give a shit?  Cut your losses and move on...you're better off using your energy elsewhere.

This was nothing but a well played scam by Barwizi, he got what he wanted so why should he deliver anything in any sort of respectable time?  Move along, do yourself a favor and get over it!
sr. member
Activity: 379
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Even now I'm coding on my tablet just to push things through. I probably will upload two versions of the code by end of day. One has PoS and the other does not. Whichever is most stable will become the active one.

Any news on the code or wallet update?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
keep it up barwizi I have been watching NRS since it started you are the most reliable dev.
 

You. Are. A. Fucking. Retard.
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