Topic: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading - page 63. (Read 43261 times)

I'm still waiting on my redemption coins. This is the worst cryptocurrency on the market next to BitConnect. At least Bitconnect paid commissions, PAC won't even redeem tokens in a timely manner.

Here's my problem with all the "scam" comments, beside simply being untrue, it makes no sense logically. I wasn't on the team at the time but a scam in crypto is when a team simply walks away; the entire $PAC team from before I joined and after, is still here. They're still active on git, discord, etc. No one has disappeared with whatever alleged gains everyone keeps accusing them of making. No coins are missing, nothing is gone, no one took money and did a runner.

Everyone in $PAC is still responding, still working long nights to keep $PAC as strong as it has been for months. I, personally, haven't taken a night off since joining the team. I talk to most of the team members on a daily basis and most of them are on even more than I am. These are people with families who have sacrificed their time to try and make $PAC everything it should be.

What good would hurting the price do for someone like me? Nothing. I understand people are frustrated at the price drop but claiming it's a scam and blaming the people working long, long, long hours to make $PAC succeed is doing nothing useful for anyone except: people trying to buy it cheaply from people buying the FUD, and stressing everyone out.

So, think before you speak harsh words. I'm here, I'm working hard to make $PAC a strong crypto contender, and if you believe otherwise, then please divest yourself and move on to another currency. You're welcome to ask anyone on Discord I've interacted with if they have faith in my efforts since joining the team. If you don't, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I've taken nothing from you and only tried to make something worthwhile for you by giving up my free time for you.

I've scammed no one and never would. I'm not aware of anyone who has scammed anyone on the $PAC team and if I was, I'd leave immediately. I joined the team because the community was, and still is amazing, the people who work so hard as volunteers (including myself) just because they see the potential. Even non-developers pitch in by helping others setup masternodes, etc. People even write songs just to keep spirits high.

I've only been on the team for a few weeks and it's wonderful. I've met so many amazing people and, I won't lie, it's tough to hear people call the hundreds of hours of time put in "a scam." Think before you speak, why would anything that anyone has claimed benefit the $PAC team? The only thing that benefits the $PAC team is the coin performing the way it deserves based on the community we have.

I feel for the people who bought at 1 sat; I do. But I had nothing to do with that. That 1 sat spike is what brought me to the team because I saw PAC was reborn. I wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened. But claiming $PAC is a scam will never get the price to 1000 sats. Hard work will get us there and that's exactly what the $PAC team is putting in. If you disagree, like I've said before, there are other currencies to move on to. I hope you believe in the team, but if you don't you're entitled to your opinions and I respect that.

I, personally, believe.

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Like I said, I wasn't on the team when all the Cryptopia hysteria was happening, sorry, so I can't give you any impressions from then. I actually only took notice of PAC's resurgence because of the price rise. I noticed that it was trading at a far higher price than usual and was curious. I also wanted to start mining it again due to the price increases which is what led me to eventually being invited to the $PAC team.

That said, I'm not aware of any fraud, anyone manipulating markets, etc.; if I was aware of anything untoward, I promise you, I wouldn't be part of the team and would resign immediately. I have zero interest in anything except fair play. I've spent almost every evening since joining the team working tirelessly to see $PAC be the best it can be and I plan to continue doing so.

In specific regards to Cryptopia, even now, communication is weak -- at best. I've never actually spoken to them or anyone even working with them. From what I know, we have zero say in their operations, their wallet operations, and it takes days to hear anything from them -- if at all.

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Yes I do I want to know this ,
If pac team knew cryptopia was in fact committing
Fraud by selling the same coin at two different prices why didn’t they
Demand cryptopia to stop ?
Why did they allow this to go on ?
Who started the btc/pac trade on cryptopia ?
Why didn’t the team at least try to force cryptopia to announce
Pac was selling for a much higher price using btc ??
Something just smells fishy I just can’t believe a responsible
Business team would allow their own investors to get
Screwed like this !!!!

You had questions? I wasn't on the $PAC team before the whole cryptopia 1 sat thing but if you have questions about $PAC, the development, etc. I'm happy to answer what I can. I'm on discord daily too if there's anything I can help with.

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Bill, is that you? You sly devil.

Issues with the old wallet are well, well documented (see the old pac github, the old pac BCT thread, or the reddit posts regarding rewind and transaction issues). Actually, the old pac is designed, per Bill Corless's own comments, to overwrite people's stakes -- that's how peercoin was designed. So both wallets can have stake overwritten. I mean, it's 100% validated by the creator of PAC and even in the Peercoin source code.

I know, facts are hard to accept, but it's all true. So, if you'd like to dispute, you know, facts, you're welcome to continue on. However, I do suggest you use the "FUD" tag...

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Yes I just registered that’s why I’m new .
But you’re so stupid please don’t reply I’m sick of you,,,,


I’m still waiting for pacteam to answer my questions !!!!!!

Redemption went well after 12 hours. All good

Go ahead and dump it...  Don't redeem..  That's your prerogative..  

Why tell everyone what you are going to do, just do it..   No one cares..  It'll just be cheap coins for those who want it..

Question is it still possible to stake coins in the old wallet and swap them in a later stage into $pac ? ? ? ?

Course I read this from a Senior Member in the old dread of PAC:
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From Disaster Faster, Senior Member:

You have no idea how disappointed I am!

Let this be a warning to everyone.

I had been running the old PAC wallet for a very long time and it staked once per month and never failed once.

I was told to download the PAC redemption wallet and I did and that was a HUGE mistake!!!

The PAC redemption wallet refuses to stake and every single stake is rejected. This is costing me a huge amount of coins and is a scam in my opinion.

This new dev team you just lost every bit of my respect on this and brace yourself because I am going to dump billions of this coin now and I could care less how far I drive the price down.

I will also not be swapping to your new coin whatsoever because of what you have already done is not honorable IMHO.

Warning to all: if you are running the old PAC wallet KEEP RUNNING IT so you can stake coins. DO NOT switch to the redemption wallet or you will get burned and stake nothing.

The only one thats not up to par with his intelligence is you, you are unable to win an argument without cursing. Also "kapish" is not a word, its spelled "capisce". Maybe you need to start using a dicktionary before you start to use grown up words!

You guys are so stupid. You are creating these new accounts and trying FUD. If you do not anything about crypto you gusy need to leave and go somewhere else, where you can use your so called expertise. No buddy told you to buy without knowing. Kapish!!

Forgot to include the discord link (it's on the front page of the thread to if you want to use it from there)
https://discord.gg/jYhzkPW ($PAC Discord)

They should be able to give you advice on who's good.

That is correct but no one was actually buying PAC for 1 Sat. Notice the 700-800 BTC Sell Wall with less than 5% of Total Trade Volume in the PAC/BTC pairing on Coinmarketcap.

How much profit is there made, let's do the calculation!!

Value 21 nov. 2017 was "4.28e-7" and for this amount they bought for USD 1.595.,450.= Pac's

They made already a profit, when it hitted USD 0,000001 at Dec. 17 2017. At this moment a lot of buyers invest in this coin and made YouTube movies. So these guys bought it for 0,000001 or 2 or 3, and there profit was 140x, 256x etcetera. there investment from Jan. 6 till Jan. 10 2018.

1 Sat is +/- USD 0,000.113.816.2 So if you bought 1 pac for

                USD 0,000.000.004.0

And you can sell that same PAC for 1 Sat, it's 28.454,05 x your investment. So if you only bought for USD 10,= this 10 dollar vallue will be now USD 284.540,=.

So that usd 1.595.450 invesatment on 21-11-2017, would have a value multiplied by 28.454,05 of 42 billion 681 mil. dollars iin total if all the pac's would have sold.

Somthing is wrong in my calculation, but selling 1 pac for 1 sat, was already a profit of > 5000 times there investment in one single pac



                      

You are asking me to read !!! 😆😆😆
Why don’t you read first ?
Understand what I’m talking about before you play smart ??
I never even mentioned redemption 😂

What you have written is nothing to do with what he is calling out.  Are you slow? Or simply someone that benefited from the SCAM?

Total Masternodes right now equal about 1470 so If we get an average of 100 new Masternodes after 720 hours the average return for this Masternode at current rate would be 14.135% ROI after 30 days equaling 70675 Rewarded Coins. About 2356 coins per day.


With 1000 coins you would get 0.002% of the Shared Masternodes Earnings equaling about 141.35 Coins a month.

Instead of crying out, please go and read their website and blog. It is clearly said there about how to redeem and for how long. If someone bought the current PAC coin you can still redeem for the new $PAC coin till 2019 I read. I have read in their blog and so should you do the same instead of complaining. Please do your due diligence before buying any coin. Its your money and your responsibility to find out why you are buying any coin.

Can't tell you much about that shared node group.  You should ask in Discord.

Masternode payouts daily average are approximately 576 (daily block avg) divided by Number of MasterNodes times 6210 block reward..

So, 500,000 $PAC MN should net the following (currently anyway) assuming all things stay the same, which they obviously wont:


There are currently 1546 according to:
http://monitor.masternodes.work/

So, the calc currently would be 576/1546 * 6210 = 2,313 $PAC daily on average

https://www.masternodes.work has hosting but doesn't do shared nodes..