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Topic: [ANN] Peer Mountain - DECENTRALIZED TRUST FOR ALL - page 2. (Read 3797 times)

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I'd like to reach out to any victims of the Peermountain project bounty campaign or any investors who are able to provide me with any info or feedback about their experiences with Peermountain.

As a concerned Syscoin investor, I find it difficult to understand why Syscoin have seen fit to enter into a partnership with such a "company", not to mention why this "company" hasn't even bothered to have a presence in their own thread or didn't feel the need to tell their own investors here about this supposed "partnership" with Syscoin.

I'd particularly like to hear from anyone who has either lost funds or feels cheated in the bounty campaign, but also any details about the various "rule changes" or unpaid bounties. I invite anyone who has these or any other details about this outfit to please post their views in the following thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sys-syscoin-unofficial-due-to-censorship-secrecy-on-official-thread-4748031

...or simply click on the link in my sig. I look forward to hearing your views.

Thank you & be safe.

It is very unfortunate to see you post the same lies about our Project after we have gone through lengths to answer all of your questions in the bounty thread. Why would you just ignore all of your answers and spread the same type of ignorant FUD in this thread?

There are NO victims of the Peer Mountain bounty campaign and/or investors. ALL bounty campaigns will receive their tokens as soon as we can distribute all public and private sale tokens as well - so right after the public sale. The unfortunate market conditions and the partnership with TokenMarket have delayed our sale by several months but none of the investments are at any risk at all. If any bounty contributor has any inquiries regarding their stakes, please direct them towards the bounty manager.

PLEASE stop spreading lies about Peer Mountain without doing any proper research and ignoring our direct answers to your questions.

I just copy paste my latest answer to your questions here for transparency purposes as well:

Hello Joel. Thanks for the delayed answer, nice to know someone from KYC3 actually reads this thread.

I notice your account is brand new & this is your first post. As you are Product Lead Manager, don't you think you should have kept people updated here by posting at least a few times?

You are more than welcome and we are always happy to see when people dig deeper into Peer Mountain. We initially contracted a professional and recommended bounty manager to run the first bounty campaign as well as manage the discussion in this thread. We do however realize that we should have been more active ourselves in addition to the bounty managers and will make the effort to be as responsive as possible moving forward, especially in our new ANN thread that will be released soon.

An NDA? Why would any partnership not want the public to know who was involved? This gives the impression of secrecy & arouses suspicion about weather there are any "major German and Swiss corporations" involved at all - especially as Peermountain's main marketing slogan is Trust. Any ICO can quote NDA then hide behind it, many do in fact - it never works out. You need to provide details. Proof.

Partnerships in the crypto space tend to work a little different than in traditional business environments. Our signed partnerships are with large regulated corporations that have to consider a much wider impact – especially since token sales have been under the fierce scrutiny of regulators. We would love to publicly announce our partners but above all we want to build and deliver tech. Both of our major corporate partners are regulated financial institutions and their boards did not want their regulators to question them about supporting a token sale. Their support is for the Peer Mountain tech and ecosystem and not to publicly assist in the marketing campaign of a token sale.

I disagree completely. By stating "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", you have intentionally & deliberately tried to hide the fact that the same people (Jed Grant, Markus Forster, Florian Lagouche, etc) are behind both entities. They, under the guise of KYC3 are the registered owners the Peermountain website - it is absolutely not a separate business & trying to state otherwise is a falsehood. It seems your teams knowledge of "compliance and regulatory frameworks" somehow gets forgotten when it comes to trying to sell your token.

I am sorry but we have definitely not been hiding that fact in any way. Actually, if you read our timeline on the main homepage you can clearly see that Peer Mountain was a Project born from relationships and activities in KYC3. We also make references to KYC3 in our blog and if you just check out Jed’s Linkedin profile you can see that he is still active in both companies as of today. I do want to point out again that this is a reassurance for all eventual token holders that Peer Mountain is a venture with long term experience in tech and compliance.
 
Although some people are still active in both companies, they are a completely separate businesses at this point and not dependent on each other. I, for example, have no ties to KYC3 of any sorts. KYC3 also sells a completely separate line of products and tech.

Talking of tokens, I see bounty hunters either not getting paid or paid a lot less than what was promised after multiple date/rule changes, much like the conflicting info here & on your website - care to comment on that issue?

We ran a first pre-order in February. Initially we wanted to run our public sale shortly thereafter but the dates were changed after we were offered the opportunity to work with TokenMarket on our public sale. TokenMarket’s outstanding reputation has given us a lot of positive exposure but unfortunately lead to a longer delay between pre-order and token sales. The bounty managers did not want to exceed their usual timeframe for a campaign which ended back in February already. We understood it would be difficult for them continue running the campaign for another 4-6 months and found an agreement with the bounty managers where they would be paid based on the funds raised in the pre-order (hence it was the round that they worked for). As the pre-order results were below expectations, we retrospectively even tripled their reward percentage to accommodate those early supporters. All decisions for the bounty campaign were taken in close discussion and agreement with the bounty managers and we believe to have found a fair solution for both sides.
 
For the upcoming public sale, we have launched a new proof-of-care program where everybody is welcome to join as well: https://peermountain.com/proof-of-care/

The use of spambots & noob accounts who only post in this thread is also cause for suspicion. Stop using them.

We mostly definitely do not engage any spambots or encourage other people to make empty claims in this thread.
 
Thanks again!
Joel
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Hello there
When all sales will be done and when bounty distribution finally start.
And what about listing at exchanges?
Thank you I hope get some answer.

Hello!

We apologize for the delay in our public sale. I am sure everyone here is aware of the difficult market conditions which have hurt all token sales. We are doing our best to show people that Peer Mountain has a strong and experienced team working on a real world application with institutional partners and we are still hoping to move forward to the public sale in a relatively short timeframe. Unfortunately I can not be more precise due to our close partnership with TokenMarket who will have a strong word in locking down the precise dates.

ALL bounty contributors will be rewarded with their tokens as soon as the tokens are release to all other investors as well (private and public sale). There is no risk here at all to any bounty distributors and the delay is just in direct relation to the delay of the token sale. If you have any inquiries regarding your stakes in the bounty campaign please contact your bounty manager.

The only benefit of delaying the token sale is that we will be even closer to launching our first deployment afterwards. As soon as the first Peer Mountain application is live, the tokens must also be traded on exchanges so that is one of our top priorities as well.

Thank you for your continued interest in our project!
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I'd like to reach out to any victims of the Peermountain project bounty campaign or any investors who are able to provide me with any info or feedback about their experiences with Peermountain.

As a concerned Syscoin investor, I find it difficult to understand why Syscoin have seen fit to enter into a partnership with such a "company", not to mention why this "company" hasn't even bothered to have a presence in their own thread or didn't feel the need to tell their own investors here about this supposed "partnership" with Syscoin.

I'd particularly like to hear from anyone who has either lost funds or feels cheated in the bounty campaign, but also any details about the various "rule changes" or unpaid bounties. I invite anyone who has these or any other details about this outfit to please post their views in the following thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sys-syscoin-unofficial-due-to-censorship-secrecy-on-official-thread-4748031

...or simply click on the link in my sig. I look forward to hearing your views.

Thank you & be safe.
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Did you read the thread?  I'm afraid there is a very high chance that you've been scammed.

Having read through this thread & fought through the many spambots, post farmers & complaints here, I find myself with many questions for the devs, but want to keep it short, so here are a few of them::

According to the peermountain website, you have "a major swiss financial services firm" & a "major german corporation" as your partners - who are they?

Also on your website, you have the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance emblem, indicating that you are a member, yet I don't see peermountain on the members list on their website  https://entethalliance.org/members-2/   - why is that?

Also on your website, you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", but this is not the case:

Jed Grant, listed as CEO of peermountain, also happens to be CEO of KYC3.

Dr. Markus Forster, listed as Data Scientist for peermountain, also happens to be Data Scientist for KYC3.

Florian Lagouche, listed as Blockchain DevOps Engineer for peermountain, also happens to be the Expert in AML Systems applied to Blockchain for KYC3.

Indeed, the peermountain website domain was registered by KYC3 IP DevHold Sarl themselves:  https://whois.domaintools.com/peermountain.com  using the same 1and1.com (cheap) hosting provider.

So I guess this question is why would you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business" when it is obvious that the people behind KYC3 are the same people behind peermountain & therefore not seperate in any way whatsoever?

I look forward to your answers. Thanks.

Devs?

Mr Grant?

Mr Forster?

Mr Lagouche?

Nothing.....

I guess the only conclusion then is that this project was a scam & has now been abandoned.

Thanks for the confirmation  Roll Eyes

Also read their bounty thread - more scam:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2642081.3960
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Hello there
When all sales will be done and when bounty distribution finally start.
And what about listing at exchanges?
Thank you I hope get some answer.
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uses cryptographic protocols that allow people and institutions to create and own a reliable record that includes digital identification.

What does? There is no product whatsoever. Nothing.
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Every time a person transacts with a bank, credit agency, government, or online retailer, that organization generates and stores a copy of that person’s information following a number of rules and regulations according to the specifics of the interaction.
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Peer Mountain has signed a partnership agreement with Syscoin. This partnership will enable Peer Mountain to include the support of the Syscoin Protocol on its development map. The companies will work together to develop interface microservices to facilitate interoperability between the Peerchain Protocol and the Syscoin Protocol.
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uses cryptographic protocols that allow people and institutions to create and own a reliable record that includes digital identification.
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The use of spambots & noob accounts who only post in this thread (like the one above) is also cause for suspicion. Stop using them.

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You're judging people based on their title rather than the content/the information they give.
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The use of spambots & noob accounts who only post in this thread (like the one above) is also cause for suspicion. Stop using them.

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Having read through this thread & fought through the many spambots, post farmers & complaints here, I find myself with many questions for the devs, but want to keep it short, so here are a few of them::

According to the peermountain website, you have "a major swiss financial services firm" & a "major german corporation" as your partners - who are they?

Also on your website, you have the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance emblem, indicating that you are a member, yet I don't see peermountain on the members list on their website  https://entethalliance.org/members-2/   - why is that?

Also on your website, you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", but this is not the case:

Jed Grant, listed as CEO of peermountain, also happens to be CEO of KYC3.

Dr. Markus Forster, listed as Data Scientist for peermountain, also happens to be Data Scientist for KYC3.

Florian Lagouche, listed as Blockchain DevOps Engineer for peermountain, also happens to be the Expert in AML Systems applied to Blockchain for KYC3.

Indeed, the peermountain website domain was registered by KYC3 IP DevHold Sarl themselves:  https://whois.domaintools.com/peermountain.com  using the same 1and1.com (cheap) hosting provider.

So I guess this question is why would you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business" when it is obvious that the people behind KYC3 are the same people behind peermountain & therefore not seperate in any way whatsoever?

I look forward to your answers. Thanks.

Devs?

Mr Grant?

Mr Forster?

Mr Lagouche?

Nothing.....

I guess the only conclusion then is that this project was a scam & has now been abandoned.

Thanks for the confirmation  Roll Eyes
Easy pal, if you're long enough in ICO you should know partners can't be usually revealed before the token sale event ends due to the NDA - Non Disclosure Agreement.
EEA member announcement here (june 4): https://entethalliance.org/member-news/
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Having read through this thread & fought through the many spambots, post farmers & complaints here, I find myself with many questions for the devs, but want to keep it short, so here are a few of them::

According to the peermountain website, you have "a major swiss financial services firm" & a "major german corporation" as your partners - who are they?

Also on your website, you have the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance emblem, indicating that you are a member, yet I don't see peermountain on the members list on their website  https://entethalliance.org/members-2/   - why is that?

Also on your website, you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", but this is not the case:

Jed Grant, listed as CEO of peermountain, also happens to be CEO of KYC3.

Dr. Markus Forster, listed as Data Scientist for peermountain, also happens to be Data Scientist for KYC3.

Florian Lagouche, listed as Blockchain DevOps Engineer for peermountain, also happens to be the Expert in AML Systems applied to Blockchain for KYC3.

Indeed, the peermountain website domain was registered by KYC3 IP DevHold Sarl themselves:  https://whois.domaintools.com/peermountain.com  using the same 1and1.com (cheap) hosting provider.

So I guess this question is why would you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business" when it is obvious that the people behind KYC3 are the same people behind peermountain & therefore not seperate in any way whatsoever?

I look forward to your answers. Thanks.

Devs?

Mr Grant?

Mr Forster?

Mr Lagouche?

Nothing.....

I guess the only conclusion then is that this project was a scam & has now been abandoned.

Thanks for the confirmation  Roll Eyes
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Great. Another spambot..... Roll Eyes

hero member
Activity: 1438
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
Having read through this thread & fought through the many spambots, post farmers & complaints here, I find myself with many questions for the devs, but want to keep it short, so here are a few of them::

According to the peermountain website, you have "a major swiss financial services firm" & a "major german corporation" as your partners - who are they?

Also on your website, you have the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance emblem, indicating that you are a member, yet I don't see peermountain on the members list on their website  https://entethalliance.org/members-2/   - why is that?

Also on your website, you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", but this is not the case:

Jed Grant, listed as CEO of peermountain, also happens to be CEO of KYC3.

Dr. Markus Forster, listed as Data Scientist for peermountain, also happens to be Data Scientist for KYC3.

Florian Lagouche, listed as Blockchain DevOps Engineer for peermountain, also happens to be the Expert in AML Systems applied to Blockchain for KYC3.

Indeed, the peermountain website domain was registered by KYC3 IP DevHold Sarl themselves:  https://whois.domaintools.com/peermountain.com  using the same 1and1.com (cheap) hosting provider.

So I guess this question is why would you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business" when it is obvious that the people behind KYC3 are the same people behind peermountain & therefore not seperate in any way whatsoever?

I look forward to your answers. Thanks.

Devs?

Mr Grant?

Mr Forster?

Mr Lagouche?
hero member
Activity: 1438
Merit: 574
Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
Having read through this thread & fought through the many spambots, post farmers & complaints here, I find myself with many questions for the devs, but want to keep it short, so here are a few of them::

According to the peermountain website, you have "a major swiss financial services firm" & a "major german corporation" as your partners - who are they?

Also on your website, you have the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance emblem, indicating that you are a member, yet I don't see peermountain on the members list on their website  https://entethalliance.org/members-2/   - why is that?

Also on your website, you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business....", but this is not the case:

Jed Grant, listed as CEO of peermountain, also happens to be CEO of KYC3.

Dr. Markus Forster, listed as Data Scientist for peermountain, also happens to be Data Scientist for KYC3.

Florian Lagouche, listed as Blockchain DevOps Engineer for peermountain, also happens to be the Expert in AML Systems applied to Blockchain for KYC3.

Indeed, the peermountain website domain was registered by KYC3 IP DevHold Sarl themselves:  https://whois.domaintools.com/peermountain.com  using the same 1and1.com (cheap) hosting provider.

So I guess this question is why would you state that you are "Backed by KYC3, a separate business" when it is obvious that the people behind KYC3 are the same people behind peermountain & therefore not seperate in any way whatsoever?

I look forward to your answers. Thanks.
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protection of personal information? for now i saw only how they lured personal data through kys from many bounty huters. someone will be payed, someone no.
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I was pleased with this project, so that it puts people under control and protects personal information. I download the application in Alpha, and I will also follow the new developments of the project.
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mobile first distributed trust system. It uses cryptographic protocols that allow people and institutions to create and own a reliable record.
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