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member
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I like that finally even small projects like POLIS are getting attention these days and are listing on exchanges.
member
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I've send yesterday a small amount, which got deposit 12 hours later.
It seems that STOCKS.EXCHANGE works, but very very slow.

Just saw on Discord:

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@everyone stocks.exchange is on the right chain now.  PLEASE SEND A SMALL TEST AMOUNT (0.05 POLIS) TO YOUR STOCKS.EXCHANGE ADDRESS BEFORE DEPOSITING SIGNIFICANT FUNDS.  We still have not received any info on the status of CoinsMarkets exchange.
https://stocks.exchange/trade/POLIS/BTC
Their deposits can be quite slow, so it may take an hour to see funds

I think yesterday it was on the wrong chain, which is why it took 12 hours for you.  I got a test amount to come through in about an hour this morning.

I personally won't be using the exchange, so I'm not endorsing it.  Just letting people know in case they want to use it.
newbie
Activity: 40
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I've send yesterday a small amount, which got deposit 12 hours later.
It seems that STOCKS.EXCHANGE works, but very very slow.

Just saw on Discord:

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@everyone stocks.exchange is on the right chain now.  PLEASE SEND A SMALL TEST AMOUNT (0.05 POLIS) TO YOUR STOCKS.EXCHANGE ADDRESS BEFORE DEPOSITING SIGNIFICANT FUNDS.  We still have not received any info on the status of CoinsMarkets exchange.
https://stocks.exchange/trade/POLIS/BTC
Their deposits can be quite slow, so it may take an hour to see funds
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
Just saw on Discord:

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@everyone stocks.exchange is on the right chain now.  PLEASE SEND A SMALL TEST AMOUNT (0.05 POLIS) TO YOUR STOCKS.EXCHANGE ADDRESS BEFORE DEPOSITING SIGNIFICANT FUNDS.  We still have not received any info on the status of CoinsMarkets exchange.
https://stocks.exchange/trade/POLIS/BTC
Their deposits can be quite slow, so it may take an hour to see funds
newbie
Activity: 40
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Press into your windows wallet => Tools => Open Config and insert:

addnode=159.89.38.128
addnode=159.89.38.126
addnode=159.203.110.137
addnode=174.138.60.69
addnode=159.203.99.171

save your config and restart your wallet (polis-qt)

This nodes will work for linux/osx instances, too.


hi, can someone can give new addnode for me
i'm sync my wallet and stuck at block 9454 now
already use the old nodes but its look nothing update from block 9454.
newbie
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hi, can someone can give new addnode for me
i'm sync my wallet and stuck at block 9454 now
already use the old nodes but its look nothing update from block 9454.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Hello Johntwo,

No problem from me either. I was hashing at the same network hashrate but i was mining at 6 th/s so thats how i have 380 coins (to answer to your question).


Eitherway i don’t think we have to apologize for DEV’s wrong decision and earnings to you.
newbie
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You can start mining on https://cupa.co  P2Pool - we support some X11 coins, like Dash, Polis, Cream, Pura, Elements. All coins has different fee between 1% and 2%.
Need Informations or any other questions?

POLIS works nice and we take a fee of 1% per found block.

* Payout every 10 minutes.
* Min. payout: 0.01 POLIS


Start with a Bitmain D3:
Take the Port with the highest start diff

Example:
stratum+tcp://POLIS.x11.cupa.co:9990
Username: Your_Wallet_address
Password: this could be everything else.

Missing some nice coins? Ask us by writing an email to [email protected]

If anyone is interessted to buy some POLIS, please ask us, too.


 

legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1031


And the main question come up again cause we forgot it as i can see.
Lost money does not exist here. Lost devs only.

Are the dev gonna pay our losses from Premined causeof his actions and his wrong communication skills?
Yes or No and when?

If yes then everything continue as normal.
If not, i will interfere so the coin never listed to cryptopia.


You have 2 days count from now to giveaway mined coins.


And I’m posting here and not PM because is fraustrating you not answering to me or anyone else.


I agree with this.  If Polis developers do not act in good faith soon, we need to organize all the mpos miners from 31 December - 1 January to see who all was affected by this and see what further action we may take.  Anyone can read this thread and see the timeline and how the fork was managed.  The fork was just dumped on everyone and it caused a lot of confusion and lost money.  

The good faith answer is easy:  allow us early miners to give proof of work evidence and then compensate us from pre-mine as was promised by polis_dev.  

Thank you and looking forward to polis success.

You're looking for compensation for the two days of mining, 31 Dec and Jan 1?

I'm trying to decide whether I agree you should get those two days of rewards, so I have a question.  Shouldn't you be paid based on your hashrate at that time, and not on the amount of POLIS you earned?  Otherwise, it penalizes other miners for being on the right fork with the correct hashrate.  

To illustrate with hypothetical, if I have 1 TH/s on the correct fork 31 Dec - 1 Jan, I will earn far less because I am mining against another 10 TH/s of power.  By contrast, if I have 1 TH/s on MPOS chain, I am mining against only another 1 TH/s of power, so I get half the rewards.  If i get paid based on number of polis mined, not hashrate, I get a bigger reward for being on wrong chain.

By asking for the amount of POLIS mined on MPOS, instead of asking for your share of hash, aren't you getting a windfall for being on the wrong chain?

Edit: and this would be hurting other "early miners" from the correct chains, right?  So we should protect the interest of all early miners by distributing bashed on hash, not amount of POLIS for those 2 days?

Also, has anyone heard from the MPOS pool operator yet? Or did he completely disappear?

I am open to fair compensation for the specific time I mined which I have provided to the developer of this project.  I agree that there should be a consideration to realistic mining expectations.  I can tell you that I have mined Polis successfully on the full network so I have a pretty good idea of what I should have received for mining.  In my opinion, this is a matter to be determined and explained by the coin developer as a matter of good faith with the project I have supported by mining.  So far, we are still waiting.

It is too soon to say if the MPOS developer is gone for good but various time frames could be postulated as to what is appropriate for this pool operator to be gone.  Regardless, the pool operator has little to do with the final outcome other than verifying proof provided by miners which should be verifiable by the coin developer as owner of this blockchain and various forks which gives the capability to prove TX IDs and screenshots. 

I imagine you offer your opinion as someone with coins or even a master node.  Or do you support this project in some other way?
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10


And the main question come up again cause we forgot it as i can see.
Lost money does not exist here. Lost devs only.

Are the dev gonna pay our losses from Premined causeof his actions and his wrong communication skills?
Yes or No and when?

If yes then everything continue as normal.
If not, i will interfere so the coin never listed to cryptopia.


You have 2 days count from now to giveaway mined coins.


And I’m posting here and not PM because is fraustrating you not answering to me or anyone else.


I agree with this.  If Polis developers do not act in good faith soon, we need to organize all the mpos miners from 31 December - 1 January to see who all was affected by this and see what further action we may take.  Anyone can read this thread and see the timeline and how the fork was managed.  The fork was just dumped on everyone and it caused a lot of confusion and lost money.  

The good faith answer is easy:  allow us early miners to give proof of work evidence and then compensate us from pre-mine as was promised by polis_dev.  

Thank you and looking forward to polis success.

You're looking for compensation for the two days of mining, 31 Dec and Jan 1?

I'm trying to decide whether I agree you should get those two days of rewards, so I have a question.  Shouldn't you be paid based on your hashrate at that time, and not on the amount of POLIS you earned?  Otherwise, it penalizes other miners for being on the right fork with the correct hashrate.  

To illustrate with hypothetical, if I have 1 TH/s on the correct fork 31 Dec - 1 Jan, I will earn far less because I am mining against another 10 TH/s of power.  By contrast, if I have 1 TH/s on MPOS chain, I am mining against only another 1 TH/s of power, so I get half the rewards.  If i get paid based on number of polis mined, not hashrate, I get a bigger reward for being on wrong chain.

By asking for the amount of POLIS mined on MPOS, instead of asking for your share of hash, aren't you getting a windfall for being on the wrong chain?

Edit: and this would be hurting other "early miners" from the correct chains, right?  So we should protect the interest of all early miners by distributing bashed on hash, not amount of POLIS for those 2 days?

Also, has anyone heard from the MPOS pool operator yet? Or did he completely disappear?
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1031


And the main question come up again cause we forgot it as i can see.
Lost money does not exist here. Lost devs only.

Are the dev gonna pay our losses from Premined causeof his actions and his wrong communication skills?
Yes or No and when?

If yes then everything continue as normal.
If not, i will interfere so the coin never listed to cryptopia.


You have 2 days count from now to giveaway mined coins.


And I’m posting here and not PM because is fraustrating you not answering to me or anyone else.


I agree with this.  If Polis developers do not act in good faith soon, we need to organize all the mpos miners from 31 December - 1 January to see who all was affected by this and see what further action we may take.  Anyone can read this thread and see the timeline and how the fork was managed.  The fork was just dumped on everyone and it caused a lot of confusion and lost money. 

The good faith answer is easy:  allow us early miners to give proof of work evidence and then compensate us from pre-mine as was promised by polis_dev. 

Thank you and looking forward to polis success.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
http://mpos-pools.com/polis
why do not coins come?
scam?

It seems like a scam pool,
I did a test and tried to manual payout of 1 coin, it did not work.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
http://mpos-pools.com/polis
why do not coins come?
scam?
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0


And the main question come up again cause we forgot it as i can see.
Lost money does not exist here. Lost devs only.

Are the dev gonna pay our losses from Premined causeof his actions and his wrong communication skills?
Yes or No and when?

If yes then everything continue as normal.
If not, i will interfere so the coin never listed to cryptopia.


You have 2 days count from now to giveaway mined coins.


And I’m posting here and not PM because is fraustrating you not answering to me or anyone else.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Everyone - TradeSatoshi and Stocks.Exchange may not be on the right fork, do not use them.

Wait for Cryptopia to be listed and for CoinsMarkets to solve its server issues.

Never ever send money to/from exchange without confirming a small test amount first.

I can confirm that someone I know tried to send a small test amount to stocks.exchange and did not get it.  So we advise for now that both TradeSatoshi and Stocks.Exchange not be used while we work with them to fix.

We hope coinsmarkets will be back online soon, but that is an exchange-wide issue so we can only wait.
newbie
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Lucky-block #10080 went to pool https://pool.coin-miners.info , congrats!  Although the block was not automatically paid, the dev will be paying the MN and the miners who were mining the block on the pool.  This transaction is easy to verify - for example, https://pool.coin-miners.info/?address=PFm9FLHeEdTT6AG6FSs1491kyD6T59hejn shows this wallet won 71.154% of the hash on the Block 10080, and will be paid accordingly.

why not http: //s2.altcoinix.tam almost 100% hash was !?

A lot of hash flooded into https://pool.coin-miners.info right as the lucky block approached.

Also, even if one pool has 90% of the hash, that still leaves a 10% chance that another pool will win the block.  That's why it's called Lucky-PoW!
newbie
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Lucky-block #10080 went to pool https://pool.coin-miners.info , congrats!  Although the block was not automatically paid, the dev will be paying the MN and the miners who were mining the block on the pool.  This transaction is easy to verify - for example, https://pool.coin-miners.info/?address=PFm9FLHeEdTT6AG6FSs1491kyD6T59hejn shows this wallet won 71.154% of the hash on the Block 10080, and will be paid accordingly.

why not http: //s2.altcoinix.tam almost 100% hash was !?
newbie
Activity: 30
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Lucky-block #10080 went to pool https://pool.coin-miners.info , congrats!  Although the block was not automatically paid, the dev will be paying the MN and the miners who were mining the block on the pool.  This transaction is easy to verify - for example, https://pool.coin-miners.info/?address=PFm9FLHeEdTT6AG6FSs1491kyD6T59hejn shows this wallet won 71.154% of the hash on the Block 10080, and will be paid accordingly.
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
Everyone - TradeSatoshi and Stocks.Exchange may not be on the right fork, do not use them.

Wait for Cryptopia to be listed and for CoinsMarkets to solve its server issues.

Never ever send money to/from exchange without confirming a small test amount first.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
Miners need to regularly monitor their pools and payouts, to make sure they are mining on the right chain.  Any investment - money or hashpower - is ultimately at the investor's risk.  When you are mining a brand new coin, pools drop in and out regularly.  Mining any coin that is less than 6 months old involves checking payouts several times a day to make sure the pool is working.

Now, should the dev team try its best to monitor pools too and inform them of forks?  Yes, of course.  But that doesn't somehow make them responsible for rogue pools that refuse to get on the right fork even after being told to do so.  Maybe this will put some of you off, and make you want to go to other coins that more carefully monitor their pools and have devs that communicate better.  That's okay - you should mine a less risky coin if that's what you want, but your rewards will also be lower.  POLIS is FIFTEEN DAYS OLD.  There will be risks and growing pains.  The reward is much higher because these risks make other investors and miners stay away.

Those looking to get one week of MPOS mining back are just trying to get all the upside of POLIS' riskiness without suffering the consequences of risk.  You took the risk by mining on MPOS, whether or not the dev team could have communicated better.  But now that the coin is worth millions, you want to erase the past risk you took.  That make no sense.  I think MPOS miners should be compensated for any mining they did in the first 24 hours after the fork was discovered.  But anyone mining after that just isn't paying attention, and isn't properly managing risk.


Let's take a look at this coin's FUTURE, not the PAST.  From what I've learned on discord and seen elsewhere, this is what POLIS has done in FIFTEEN DAYS:

1) POLIS is on CoinsMarkets, which is having some trouble for the whole exchange (upgrading servers), but last price was about 60-80k sats ($9-12, average of $10.5).
2) POLIS is also on TradeSatoshi and Stocks.Exchange.  These exchanges have very little activity (which makes sense, because supply of POLIS is super low, no one wants to sell). 
--> So POLIS has gotten onto three exchanges that are good for early altcoins

3) POLIS Cryptopia listing has been paid, and is expected within 1-2 weeks (according to dev team - remember there is always a risk that something goes wrong, no listing is final until listed)
-->So we have potential to get a huge volume boost very soon, and hopefully this will keep the price at $10.5 or maybe rocket it higher

4) POLIS is already on https://masternodes.online/currencies/POLIS/
5) POLIS is being added to https://masternodes.pro (See "Coming Soon" tab)
6) Several community members have made Coinmarketcap requests
-->So marketing is very aggressive.

In another 2 weeks, this coin will be ~1 month old.  If everything works out - and I can't promise it will, there is always RISK with altcoins - it will be a one-month old coin on Cryptopia+3 other exchanges, with multiple listings on masternode ranking sites and Coinmarketcap. 

There is always a TRADEOFF.  Yes, the dev could have monitored/communicated better. But then the dev might not have accomplished the 6 things listed above.  There would be smoother mining, but the coin being mined might not be getting on four exchanges and 3 marketing sites, because dev would need to spend effort monitoring pools.  That effort has to come from somewhere.


I'll let you all decide for yourselves if you want to quit POLIS just because MPOS pool dev ran off on December 28 and miners didn't check their payouts every day like they should have on a coin LESS THAN TWO WEEKS OLD.  Yes, it suggests shitty communication from devs - that LOWERS the value of POLIS because many people wil ragequit and FUD, and there will be LEGITIMATE concerns about communication.  But the dev is working on other stuff and accomplishing a lot - that RAISES the value of POLIS.  It's up to you to decide which effect is bigger.

Edit: And to those who will inevitably respond that this is still the POLIS dev's fault: okay, let's say that.  Let's say (just for the sake of argument, I don't agree) 100% the dev made a HUGE mistake by not getting you to stop mining on POLIS on MPOS, by not doing a better job communicating it should be removed, by leaving it in the ANN (if that's true), and that the dev is offering zero compensation for the mistake (if that's true).  That's really really bad.  It suggests bad communication, not caring about miners, etc. etc.  You would be right about all that.  This DOES reduce the value of POLIS a lot.  But because of everything else the coin has accomplished, it's still looking like it could be successful.  Coins can succeed with bad dev teams.

what polis really did:
1) some forks out of nowhere ( i was in contact with one pool operators, who got more grey hair between the years than it should have been)
2) a strange change in the concept from 25% mn reward to officially 75% reward
3) after pointing that it is not 75% reward (claiming that it was the communities will) the ann was simply changed to 80%.
4) pumping this coin to get on top of masternode.online by just switching the MN reward

so tell me this is not a scam

a) no white paper
b) dev acting at his own will
c) pumps from outer space

any questions?


@redsun17 I love you for this post! What a pleasure to read and totally on point!  Smiley

@More.Hash

1) The forks happened because a issue in the initial wallet release was found which required to get urgently fixed. But this caused that most of the nodes were running on different wallet versions, which was complicated by the fact that some nicehash miners pushed the network on the wrong chain.

2) The "strange change of concept" has been discussed with the community and done trough a voting - indeed it happened very fast, but nobody could have known at this moment, that this coin gets that much attention that early and were listed on several pools right from the first day as well as on coinsmarkets - so everything happened way too fast that it was running really stable. But it is now - the dev allready fixed issues, other x11 coins do not even know they have got. ^^

3) The original block reward = 10. So 2,5 were going to the masternode and 7,5 were going to the miner. (25% / 75%).

Because of the really fast growing number of masternodes (194 at the moment i'm writing) the dev asked the community if he should change the rewards - and the community voted for it.

So the the block reward was initially changed to = 20. So 5 were going to the masternode and 15 were going to the miners (25 / 75%). And then he changed it to 15 to the masternodes and 5 to the miners as requested by the community.

I don't know exactly why it has changed to 4 to the miner 16 to the masternode (20%/80%) right now, but if you would like to tell me that miners don't accept more then 50% MN rewards, then i must proove you wrong, because Polis is not the first coin that is working with this configuration.

The miners mine everything that is profitable. Why shouldn't they do else? And they always have got the chance of the lucky pow reward and earn a 100 times the usual reward.

About

a) Its a community coin - the community will create the whitepaper together but its still a little bit too early
b) The Dev is always in contact with the community like as well with the pool operators or exchange operators.
c) If some people believe in this project and buy this coin this are "pumps from outher space"? Huh I don't get which alien told you this information!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


 true that! well said and i think most masternodes coins should be like that.. and tom really active in discord so thats  really big help!
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