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Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source - page 44. (Read 748249 times)

newbie
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Quota 1 - mining asset announcement
https://forum.qora.org/index.php?topic=80.0
info + giveaway!

It's a pity you have to be registered on the qora forum before you made your giveaway announcement to be entitled to claim the giveaway.
full member
Activity: 168
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Regardless of features released, Qora will continue to struggle with sinking marketcap as long as it's closed source.  No one is going to waste time with a coin developed by one guy with no ability for 3rd parties to contribute additional features.  Hence, there is no community here, just a couple holders talking about how great Qora will be with the next feature.  Look what Asset Exchange did for Qora, nothing.  This coin is as good as dead.

Its being killed.....Its not dead.

I'll be honest with you though I have been shaking my head at the community decisions made on Qora for months now. I have no understanding of the direction this coin has taken when it had so much potential. Like I said all I can do is shake my head. I hope this change and people wise us but I fear we are at the eleventh hour in terms of reputation.


It was clear how Qora should of proceeded. First do the AE which would of come hot on the heels of NXT's and then the wallet, the rest could of waited. I voted this way but people were fools and wanted to keep the source closed and work on secondary features not understanding that timing was essential. Opening Source should of been clearly set ie in 3 months etc. Clones like Kora were actually giving needed PR and attention.   The mistakes made on this coin literally made me open my mouth in disbelief.

Qora has now lost out under a flood of second gen coins, no one cares if your code is new unlike early in the year when it was still a novelty and selling point....we wont get that buzz back. Sorry but that's the truth, I warned and warned and warned again but no one wanted to listen.

hero member
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Regardless of features released, Qora will continue to struggle with sinking marketcap as long as it's closed source.  No one is going to waste time with a coin developed by one guy with no ability for 3rd parties to contribute additional features.  Hence, there is no community here, just a couple holders talking about how great Qora will be with the next feature.  Look what Asset Exchange did for Qora, nothing.  This coin is as good as dead.
legendary
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Translated to pt,

posted in NEMfórum,

bounties here: QYjkHT8K7UEucH8Tsf83Bj55YcGiQUNHbM , THX
full member
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I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Don't forgot Jean-Luc(NXT's core dev)'s comment which hint qora may develop from NXT's early version.
I don't believe this at the beginning, but as Qora dev always avoid to talk anything about the code and ignore any request to open the source code.
I gradually think it may be true.



He said that qora probably took some ideas from one of early versions but made absolutely new implementation. Since Qora had name service with trading right from the start, voting system soon after and different ae now it doesn't matter if qora used nxt ideas. Qora is the most advanced system at the moment although Nxt has been launched 7 months before Qora.
I remenber he said qora definitely borrow some ideas from NXT. And it may be developed from NXT's early version.
I don't think he has any reasons to still keep the source code closed.
Without the source code review, we can't tell the protocol is good or not.


I'm not technical but he hasn't seen the source code, he has seen the 'decompiled' code right? Plus he could definitely be wrong, plus he is a NXT guy who wouldn't be rushing to say its a new code either.

Open code will come and then we shall see.

I predict some great 'discussions' with the NXT guys for sure.
hero member
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I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Don't forgot Jean-Luc(NXT's core dev)'s comment which hint qora may develop from NXT's early version.
I don't believe this at the beginning, but as Qora dev always avoid to talk anything about the code and ignore any request to open the source code.
I gradually think it may be true.



He said that qora probably took some ideas from one of early versions but made absolutely new implementation. Since Qora had name service with trading right from the start, voting system soon after and different ae now it doesn't matter if qora used nxt ideas. Qora is the most advanced system at the moment although Nxt has been launched 7 months before Qora.
I remenber he said qora definitely borrow some ideas from NXT. And it may be developed from NXT's early version.
I don't think he has any reasons to still keep the source code closed.
Without the source code review, we can't tell the protocol is good or not.
member
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dont worry , new wallet with new UI will coming , thanks for dev teams hard work
hero member
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Quota 1 - mining asset announcement
https://forum.qora.org/index.php?topic=80.0
info + giveaway!

12,5 btc for 5000 gh/s. Could you provide any calculations of profitability?

Because of the falling price, BTC hashrate stopped growing and I don't expect it to rise so significantly in future as it was 3-12 months ago. Part of the return will be reinvested in hashpower. I expect ROI in 2-3 years and still generating nice amount of Qora for holders and shares having some value.
sr. member
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I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Qora the developer has my complete trust based on his behaviour over the last so many months.

When he says Qora is not based on ANY other code and he claims he knows almost nothing about NXT then I'm taking him on his word.
Sure. But Gandi did not want answers based on trust in personalities, so I tried to point to some objective facts.

Mind you, it's hard to say whether a coin is a "scam coin" because that phrase gets bandied about so much it has lost its meaning. Certainly an Open Source coin could still be scam. And certainly Qora has put in many months of creative coding effort, which the true scam coins don't bother with.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Don't forgot Jean-Luc(NXT's core dev)'s comment which hint qora may develop from NXT's early version.
I don't believe this at the beginning, but as Qora dev always avoid to talk anything about the code and ignore any request to open the source code.
I gradually think it may be true.



He said that qora probably took some ideas from one of early versions but made absolutely new implementation. Since Qora had name service with trading right from the start, voting system soon after and different ae now it doesn't matter if qora used nxt ideas. Qora is the most advanced system at the moment although Nxt has been launched 7 months before Qora.

Which was based on what seemed like a 5 minute check.

The important thing is that Qora has said he based it on no other coins source code plus he said he has no knowledge of NXT, many times he has asked others how NXT worked etc cause he claimed he didn't know even basic facts about NXT. If the code looked like it was heavily based on NXT I personally would be disappointed cause it means our developer is a liar. Which I see no reason to believe that is the case. The code being revealed early was all about showing this was a uniquely made coin at its core.  If not its just like NEM, NODE, etc which I'm sure are massively influenced by how NXT worked.

People have forgot why this coin is possibly the best thing in Crypto for years.  


Disclaimer: If the code has been influenced by NXT then I want to know if Qora is BCNext or I'm selling instantly.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Quota 1 - mining asset announcement
https://forum.qora.org/index.php?topic=80.0
info + giveaway!

12,5 btc for 5000 gh/s. Could you provide any calculations of profitability?
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Don't forgot Jean-Luc(NXT's core dev)'s comment which hint qora may develop from NXT's early version.
I don't believe this at the beginning, but as Qora dev always avoid to talk anything about the code and ignore any request to open the source code.
I gradually think it may be true.



He said that qora probably took some ideas from one of early versions but made absolutely new implementation. Since Qora had name service with trading right from the start, voting system soon after and different ae now it doesn't matter if qora used nxt ideas. Qora is the most advanced system at the moment although Nxt has been launched 7 months before Qora.
sr. member
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It doesn't matter whether Qora is original code or a clone. What matters is the coin must be built by the community. Take Dogecoin for example, it's a simple clone of Litecoin/Bitcoin source, but the community is engaged in making it a success. NXT could be another example, although at a smaller scale, but it's also original code, so it doesn't count as an example. As for Qora, sadly, there is no community. The best code is dead without people.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
Don't forgot Jean-Luc(NXT's core dev)'s comment which hint qora may develop from NXT's early version.
I don't believe this at the beginning, but as Qora dev always avoid to talk anything about the code and ignore any request to open the source code.
I gradually think it may be true.

hero member
Activity: 502
Merit: 500
Quota 1 - mining asset announcement
https://forum.qora.org/index.php?topic=80.0
info + giveaway!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
People selling for 12 sats on BTER  Shocked


Well I guess it helps distribution.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.


Qora the developer has my complete trust based on his behaviour over the last so many months.

When he says Qora is not based on ANY other code and he claims he knows almost nothing about NXT then I'm taking him on his word.

I want the code released to show it's not related to NXT not that it is.  Roll Eyes

What the guy is talking about is simply based on FUD and rumors, it's not what has been communicated by Qora.
sr. member
Activity: 365
Merit: 251
I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense.
Qora has had voting for a while; Nxt still doesn't have voting in its core. Nxt has had an Asset Exchange for a while, Qora only just got its AE, and it has significantly different features (eg trading asset for asset rather than asset for coin). Nxt and Qora are now different enough that we shouldn't worry if some of the code used to be the same.
legendary
Activity: 1428
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I'm not finished with AE. but already something ready.

see for yourself an example: http://qora.co.in/?q=QdrhixdevE7ZJqSHAfV19yVYrYsys8VLgz

Looks very nice!
hero member
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Merit: 1000
I'm not finished with AE. but already something ready.

see for yourself an example: http://qora.co.in/?q=QdrhixdevE7ZJqSHAfV19yVYrYsys8VLgz
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