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Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 114. (Read 1031025 times)

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August 01, 2014, 05:37:06 PM
It's no instamine either difficulty went high pretty fast, won't believe until you prove i though Smiley

Don't expect proof. Thule knows the truth so proof is not needed ☺
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August 01, 2014, 05:02:38 PM
i give shit what you belive.The people already showed what they belive
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August 01, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
It's no instamine either difficulty went high pretty fast, won't believe until you prove i though Smiley
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August 01, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
So because its not a premine scam but an instamine scam which has the same goal its ok for you?


Thats exectly why the community and quark went down.

The 33 million wallet was already proofed and the link to that account many times posted.Do your own homework
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August 01, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
But he just proved it's not pre mined, case closed, finito, no pre mine, proven, done.

and you can't prove the 33m coins you are claiming?
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August 01, 2014, 03:14:15 PM
When a people make a coin that not have premine, IPO, etc. This guy have 4 options to make profit:
1-   Donations;
2-   Fee on Official pools, webwallets, exchanges;
3-   Mining;
4-   Services!

So, maybe this guy have mined when the diff was low and have more money that other people,



Second his analyze is horrible.Just his claim like this :

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YES 781 Million coins mined before this transaction

wow so quark has now 781 instead of 240


talking about a wallet with 250k coins being a scam instead of showing the 33.000.000 wallet which is just 150 times as big as his shitty account which he is taking as proof


So thats exectly what we claim.The scam was mining quark himself at extremly low difficulty which were also protected using orphans so nobody else could mine them thats why people become before diff 0.01 mostly orphans.Please remember some people mined in the first day over a million coins which means the instamine of the extremly low diff must be millions and millions of coins and this explains a) the big wallets b) over 60% in under 100 wallets and c ) subwallets to hide that most of the coins are held by some people.

Please read once again what Kolin posted about Quark


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I have free access to rack servers I'm not bothering with the electricity that I won't pay to mine this .  It's obviously an instamine with objective to bilk some fool out of xpm ha ha , well if it worked that's the market , great idea.


and now go on thinking why max and kolin completly left quark till there was a boom on altcoins.
Before they didnt worked on quark since both knew that this was an instamine to milk some fools
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August 01, 2014, 03:07:41 PM
All i know it has not been pre mined like thule keeps pushing and here is the hard proof https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7927663
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August 01, 2014, 03:04:55 PM
Just checked and Kolin joined the thread one day after release on july 22 so hilux claim is bs


here a nice post of kolin on july 22   (second day after release)

 
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I have free access to rack servers I'm not bothering with the electricity that I won't pay to mine this .  It's obviously an instamine with objective to bilk some fool out of xpm ha ha , well if it worked that's the market , great idea.



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I started mining this when it was less than 0.01. Orphans, orphans,...

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this coin is officially dead.

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He's partially correct. When the average user can't mine any more it's dead.

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thats good but some people got 200 blocks in an hour or so just a few hours ago. This was instamined  and now pretty pointless to mine since those will dump as soon as it hits an exchange and if you just have a few blocks they will be worth nothing much.

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The diff was not well thought out and the release was not announced and now the vps and botnets are raping it. Starting at 0.00000000000000000 dif and on 79 already(same day)?  yeah i'd saying coming in now is way too late unless you have a botnet ready and fired up.

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What i am saying is that the people that mined at 0.0000000000000 diff have 100's of thousands of these coins and everyone else except botnets and vps clusters are going to get fuck all.  Hence the shit diff design realeasing with no announcement at 0.0000000000 dif is mad.  This is instamining.


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its been one day and diff is already ~ 80 . would i even get anything on a quad core i5 at this point ?

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IF YOU WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A FAIR CHANCE TO MINE IT

1 announce it

2. scale the coins sensible with the diff

or

dont start at diff 0.0000000000000000

what do you not get about this fucktard.

You instamined some shit and trying to flog it, but don't try to defend the release.

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Yet, less than a day later people can't get 1 block in hours and hours?  you get 50 blocks in the first hour and the coin is a fair release? not instamine even though 1 hour in the diff sky rocketed? with no announcement?


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Two orphan blocks.

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August 01, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
Like i said before use your brain and open your eyes.
 

Just one of many claims from july

FUCK THIS SHIT, AT LEAST PRIMECOIN FINDS PRIMES, WITH THIS THE ADMIN PROVIDED 1 SINGLE NODE WHICH REJECTED CONNECTIONS BUT BROADCASTED HIS MINED COINS SO HE CAN ORPHAN EVERYTHING (MOST PROBABLY A DELIBERATE SO HE CAN MINE AT LOW DIFF WITH HIS STACKED UP CPU'S)

AND US PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO MINE LOST 100'S OF BLOCKS, RIGHT NOW I HAVE 0 BLOCK FUCK THIS, I SOUND LIKE I AM BITCHING BECAUSE I HAVE NO COINS BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

SCAM COIN
(PREMINED AFTER ANNOUNCEMENT)



About Kolin

Do you realy belive that somebody who started mining quarks in nov where over 95% were already mined is going to pay for a sponsored reuters article ?Do you have a clue how much such an article costs ?And after that who is getting BILL STILL a nice bribe of 500k+ coins ?

Sorry people but if you are unable to use your own brain and can't smell this shit then i wouldnt recommend in investing in anything.


More proof will be posted this weekend when i will have time
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August 01, 2014, 10:55:03 AM
As with CH I have been with Quark since Day1.  Thules claim about mining being not worthwhile after 1 month is very false.

In my case I CPU mined about 100,000 in the first month using multiple home PCs.  Difficulty got pretty high quickly so as ti e passed it got harder to mine, just like every other coin.  My other 900,000 Quark I mined over the next 4 months after the flash miners left to another coin.  my cpus stayed on the p2pool pretty much the whole time but what fetched me the most Quark was solomining with Smolens Smelter GPU software.

So you can see even though block reward was lower in the later months it was absolutely possible to mine Quark over its primary distribution period.  It was free market...price was low so it was at the time for me mining simply because it was my favorite (like I do with Offerings to Cthulu OFF now) and most people didn't trust the gpu software...therefore they didn't mine...people were free to mine or not, noones fault but their own it they did not just like I chose not to mine DOGE on release thinking it was a waste of time.

*and no I no longer have 1,000,000qrk.  Like 99% of early miners I would sell in the early days whenever it would go above .00000180.  Then i sold most of the rest at 0.00007.

Just for some more history Digital Industry was not around at all in the Quark thread until November (qrk released in July) so the way he talks like he was a dev guiding its early phase is bs unless of course he is Max.  I appreciate DIs involvemnet since Nov but he had nothing to do with the early days of Quark.

I can confirm this - I found quark, it was a free market accident, i had noting to do with the code. and I'm obviously not Max.

but how great it is !

Quark is VERY great!  Smiley
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August 01, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
As with CH I have been with Quark since Day1.  Thules claim about mining being not worthwhile after 1 month is very false.

In my case I CPU mined about 100,000 in the first month using multiple home PCs.  Difficulty got pretty high quickly so as ti e passed it got harder to mine, just like every other coin.  My other 900,000 Quark I mined over the next 4 months after the flash miners left to another coin.  my cpus stayed on the p2pool pretty much the whole time but what fetched me the most Quark was solomining with Smolens Smelter GPU software.

So you can see even though block reward was lower in the later months it was absolutely possible to mine Quark over its primary distribution period.  It was free market...price was low so it was at the time for me mining simply because it was my favorite (like I do with Offerings to Cthulu OFF now) and most people didn't trust the gpu software...therefore they didn't mine...people were free to mine or not, noones fault but their own it they did not just like I chose not to mine DOGE on release thinking it was a waste of time.

*and no I no longer have 1,000,000qrk.  Like 99% of early miners I would sell in the early days whenever it would go above .00000180.  Then i sold most of the rest at 0.00007.

Just for some more history Digital Industry was not around at all in the Quark thread until November (qrk released in July) so the way he talks like he was a dev guiding its early phase is bs unless of course he is Max.  I appreciate DIs involvemnet since Nov but he had nothing to do with the early days of Quark.

I can confirm this - I found quark, it was a free market accident, i had noting to do with the code. and I'm obviously not Max.

but how great it is !
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August 01, 2014, 10:15:41 AM
I invested on this last year, and I still haven't seen any gains. When will this coin take off? It's the only coin I invested actual FIAT with it.
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August 01, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
@ Cryptohunter are you going to be present at sunday? There is a meeting between members which decisions are going to made on how to go further hope you join see this link http://doodle.com/7kddvnndc8ympgu2

Same goes for VIC, Hilux and some other guys from Reddit as well
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August 01, 2014, 10:03:38 AM
As with CH I have been with Quark since Day1.  Thules claim about mining being not worthwhile after 1 month is very false.

In my case I CPU mined about 100,000 in the first month using multiple home PCs.  Difficulty got pretty high quickly so as ti e passed it got harder to mine, just like every other coin.  My other 900,000 Quark I mined over the next 4 months after the flash miners left to another coin.  my cpus stayed on the p2pool pretty much the whole time but what fetched me the most Quark was solomining with Smolens Smelter GPU software.

So you can see even though block reward was lower in the later months it was absolutely possible to mine Quark over its primary distribution period.  It was free market...price was low so it was at the time for me mining simply because it was my favorite (like I do with Offerings to Cthulu OFF now) and most people didn't trust the gpu software...therefore they didn't mine...people were free to mine or not, noones fault but their own it they did not just like I chose not to mine DOGE on release thinking it was a waste of time.

*and no I no longer have 1,000,000qrk.  Like 99% of early miners I would sell in the early days whenever it would go above .00000180.  Then i sold most of the rest at 0.00007.

Just for some more history Digital Industry was not around at all in the Quark thread until November (qrk released in July) so the way he talks like he was a dev guiding its early phase is bs unless of course he is Max.  I appreciate DIs involvemnet since Nov but he had nothing to do with the early days of Quark.
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
August 01, 2014, 07:56:54 AM
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August 01, 2014, 07:28:58 AM
All very interesting while you guys were spending all that energy trolling here - I was helping get Quark integrated with FrozenBit:


frozenbit.io/

A fully integrated Multi sig wallet that will give Quark investors access to :

- Two factor auth

- an iOS wallet

- an Android wallet

- Live security in real time

and much more.

also I look forward to hearing from the community about Max's response from that email that was just sent in which he basically (common sense)

said that anyone can create any crypto and the market will judge it, also has the ability to Merge mine , also i can confirm the frustrating lack of communication sometimes.

but Max is the best dev in Crypto (certainly one of)

i don't doubt that he could have coded the original Bitcoin protocol.

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Doesn't the quark wallet have multisig as well? I personally would never store my coins on a cloud but on my own computer. So i don't see it as a huge deal.

Well no doubt anyone can create a crypto, but if your purpose is to create a crypto to merge mine with quark then the community and core members have the right to know everything about the project, you can do it by yourself but it will fail.
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but Max is the best dev in Crypto (certainly one of)"

How so, i haven't seen other features added besides checkpointing, not much activity (lately a little) and not connected with the community because he said himself that he won't have time for anything more than the occasional code update, but he agreed himself willing to share full access to other devs, but again for new devs and neat features integrated to the core code there are serious funds needed.

you can totally have all those opinions  - i welcome the other point of view, what will "fail" is anything that is a scam.

perhaps we should leave the crypto coding to the coders?

and focus on integration? 
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August 01, 2014, 07:26:41 AM
under a dark cloud of suspicion for months


: D


legendary
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August 01, 2014, 04:40:56 AM
All very interesting while you guys were spending all that energy trolling here - I was helping get Quark integrated with FrozenBit:


frozenbit.io/

A fully integrated Multi sig wallet that will give Quark investors access to :

- Two factor auth

- an iOS wallet

- an Android wallet

- Live security in real time

and much more.

also I look forward to hearing from the community about Max's response from that email that was just sent in which he basically (common sense)

said that anyone can create any crypto and the market will judge it, also has the ability to Merge mine , also i can confirm the frustrating lack of communication sometimes.

but Max is the best dev in Crypto (certainly one of)

i don't doubt that he could have coded the original Bitcoin protocol.

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Doesn't the quark wallet have multisig as well? I personally would never store my coins on a cloud but on my own computer. So i don't see it as a huge deal.

Well no doubt anyone can create a crypto, but if your purpose is to create a crypto to merge mine with quark then the community and core members have the right to know everything about the project, you can do it by yourself but it will fail.
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but Max is the best dev in Crypto (certainly one of)"

How so, i haven't seen other features added besides checkpointing, not much activity (lately a little) and not connected with the community because he said himself that he won't have time for anything more than the occasional code update, but he agreed himself willing to share full access to other devs, but again for new devs and neat features integrated to the core code there are serious funds needed.
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August 01, 2014, 03:07:29 AM
Hi everyone:

A day ago we heard from Max on an email that I sent to him recently regarding some serious issues that were cropping up within the community-

The letter was entitled "urgent!" Because it was--

Recent events involving blatant (& provable) deception of the community prompted the letter, as many dedicated Quark community members have decided to leave and/or (more recently) go with a fork or Proof of Burn- This still may be the case, but anyway here is the reply to some questions from Max so the community can decide for themselves--

Please note that I normally do not ask such pointed questions, but Quark has been    under a dark cloud of suspicion for months, and we didn't need for this to continue with obvious scam associations (i.e. MimicCoin:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8039982) .

So I can't apologize for attempting to clear the air once and for all..

**Also, there is a follow-up meeting with Max this Sunday (time to be determined)

Please post any additional questions here, or post if you are interested in attending the meeting.

As you see Max is open to the idea of coins merge mining with Quark-- perhaps we can (re-) open this discussion in the next day or two (this was previously started, but halted)...

   **

Here is Max's reply:

"Hi Foundation members, developers and other Quark supporters

Julie bought up some points and questions.

I'll first comment on Julie's questions:

1) How much of a role Kolin plays in the decision making process with you, and Quark itself?
4) Is Kolin the only way to effectively reach you (some have observed that you appear only when he contacts you?)

As I've mentioned before, Kolin is a Quark supporter and is free to as he please. He has no special relationship with me, other than that he e-mails me more than other people do and I also ignore Kolin for weeks on end. I unfortunately only check my Quark e-mails when I have time to.

As for the decision making process:

I am chiefly involved in maintaining the Quark core code. Quark supporters are the real driving force behind Quark's path forward.

I greatly respect the work the Quark Foundation has done and will always consider any suggestions from them.

2) Are you already working on a merge mine project with Kolin and /or Adam/others?
3) If nothing has been decided yet, are you open to *considering* a merge mine proposal presented to you (one project mutually decided on by the core Group, submitted in an outline form)?

Anyone is free to launch a coin that merge mines with Quark, so if Kolin wants to launch a merged mined coin with Quark, so be it.

If members of the core Quark group / Foundation wishes to launch a merge mined Quark coin, I will support the decision, and will even help with the initial coding, but I won't have time for anything more than the occasional code update.

To be clear, the only coin I officially support is Quark. I do however support the decision by other Quark-based coins to merge mine with Quark.


Answers to below questions can be used as the long -awaited followup Q&A from Max G:

5) Do you have intentions of staying active with Quark updates and developments, maybe through occasional periodic updates on the new Forumhttp://forum.quarkuniverse.cc/index.php [EDIT www.Quarktalk.org] (you can open a topic, or whatever format suits you)?


I am and will chiefly involve myself in maintaining the Quark core code. I have done this for more than a year now and will continue doing so in the foreseeable future.

6) What are your thoughts on how important a merge mine project to increase Quark's hashrate is, given the fact that we have automatic checkpoints? Can you clarify your views on this a little?

I support the decision by any Quark based coin that would like to merge mine with Quark. This increases the hash rate to Quark and can only be good for the security of the Quark network.

Automatic checkpointing does help preventing attacks on the block-chain. It does have a down-side of being run centralised by a trusted node.

The more the hash rate can be increased, the less chance of attack and the less the need and relevance of the automatic checkpointing becomes.

A coin is only as valuable as it's community makes it, so if two coins can bring together two coin communities to the benefit of both, I support it.

7) Re: Checkpoints- We still get a lot of questions on this: Is it a checkpoint inserted at every block, going back 12 blocks? Or is it a checkpoint inserted every 12 blocks, that checks  back to the last checkpoint (12 blocks ago)? (I have seen this explained 2 different ways by you and Adam). Any way you could elaborate on the value of checkpoints would be helpful.

At the moment the setting is actually 16 blocks, but to your question, the checkpointing is done at every block, for the block 16 blocks behind the current block.

8 ) Is there some security measure in place yet(back-up node etc), in case someone attacks the node? (Let us know if we can assist in setting something up?)

Not yet.

9) Are you open to sharing Git access with other developers, or some trusted person, in the event that you become unavailable or unable (other obligations, unplanned events etc.) to work on Quarks code?

The way Github works is that anyone is free to submit pull requests for the project. A person doesn't need access to create a pull request. It literally takes me one click to incorporate the changes into the main branch of Quark.

I have always encouraged this, but sadly, very few people have actually made any contribution to the code over the last year.

I have no problem giving full access to someone who regularly contributes code to the project, or someone who has good reputation/track-record as a coder. I would love to get more developers actively involved.

People are also free to make derivatives of the Quark wallet with flashy features, as others have done. I appreciate and encourage such creativeness. These features can easily be pulled into the original branch.

10) Re: Quark "whitepaper" - Didn't you write one at some point? (I could have sworn it existed and that I read part of it!?)  Is this available anymore?

I will consider writing some kind of whitepaper. I think a lot of my economic and technical motivation for developing Quark was mentioned in an early interview (maybe 6 months ago).

My immediate plans for Quark core development:

Next week - Finalise the 0.9.2 Quark upgrade and merge it with the main branch. I've had no feedback or error reports on this so far, so I'll do a bit more testing before doing the final release.

Thanks again to all the faithful Quark supporters that are contributing to Quark in ways I can not.

Cheers"*
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August 01, 2014, 01:29:14 AM
who were dumping each night hundreds of k coins ?

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Let me say though that i was mining at the start along with a few others i know on only our home machines and over the next months mined fairly over 2M quark, we did hire a couple of cheap servers with dual core xeons that were like 80 bucks each a month.

this makes not much sense as over 90% of this coin was already harvested in the first month.So why would somebody buy servers for months when most coins were already mined ?


And i never claimed that it was a premine scam.Many people call it so as there was a scam during the mining in the first month which leads to the same result like a premine scam


What do you mean i just said i was mining from the start? the fact we decided to keep mining for a longer period since we like the currency and the servers were cheap has no bearing on the scam you are trying to highlight.  We wanted more coins we decided to just leave the servers running. I don't have the 33M wallet though so it has nothing to do with the point you are bringing up.

I don't really like one person having 10% of the minting, but if they bought or mined it fairly then that's just how it is.

Let's not get distracted  from the issue you have brought to attention here.

Who cares about the dumping if it was on exchange? means nothing to me if they mined it fairly. Perhaps it was steve lamb that guy is sharp and i would guess a multi millionaire.

I want to know about the scam how some wallet got 33M without mining fairly against anyone else who mined at the time or bough unfairly against anyone that bought at the time.

The rest does not matter.

If the short POW makes it a scam, then what about every single new coin released some of which have a POW period of hours.?


Let's focus on one issue at a time. The 33M wallet. Is it a scam or not?

I see no possible way there is a scam there.

Let's get passed this now if there is a proof of scam let's deal with it, if there is no scam let's get back to the POB or QRK only ipo companion coin, or any other great new idea to bring qrk back into the running as an active coin community with some planned features/services to attract back some of the lost market share.





ha ha are you guys still talking to Thule ha ha - i love that guy but i only come and poke him when we want to bump the Quark topic of course a good time is now considering FrozenBit integration !

which i personally think is bigger news than the Shaqfu story.
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