Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 117. (Read 1031025 times)

we should essentially have zero issues finding a great dev for 5% of the total minting of the new coin released to them over time, some really high quality devs seem to working hard for 2% . Really they will get a lot of talent from the qrk core and a lot of interest from out side investors who were sitting there doing nothing for their huge pots of qrk but now will need to become a lot more active in order to burn the amount of qrk they are holding.

The funding for the core members that are currently working for nothing will also be much appreciated.

ROI projects should be the key focus once we have the investors attention again.

Well Quark is still here never too late to return 

i miss quark....nice coin...

Maok, I don´t have the time to debunk one argument and then the next and then the next. No, proof of burn doesn´t need a hardfork, no it doesn´t need an agreement by the dev and no, it doesn´t have to have Quarks hashrate issues. As long as there is no 51% attack in the Proof of burn phase there is no more need to rely on Quarks blockchain (even though this depends on the way you handle proof of burn).
And re: Satoshi comparison: Bitcoin reacted to Satoshis disappearance with the creation of the Foundation and that was why there was a lot of stability in the creation, maintenance and future perspective of BTC. Also as far as I remember Satoshi handed over the Github access to Gavin or someone else so there wasn´t even the need for a hardfork. If Max Guevara handed over (or shared) Github access I wouldn´t argue the way I do, but he didn´t. He is also still active as you could see from his fast reaction to the Heartbleed bug but the lack of responsiveness (or at least the reliance on individual members) is to me unacceptable (and btw. also not really suits the "decentral" character that we are/were promoting).

Anyway (I think I repeat this at least the 5th time) this move would certainly mean to start from 0, but at least we could make sure that we already have a community with a good network factor plus we can make sure that a real Foundation would exist from launch. Also Proof of Burn wouldn´t mean killing Quark as was suggested by some in this thread. Counterparty didn´t kill Bitcoin and is still kinda successful. It just means that people take a decision to go a different way and try a fresh start. I still believe this is the last matter we have, but I must say that it becomes more attractive to me.

As cryptohunter and others said, the question whether it´s worth to try it depends on the question whether it is possible to find a dedicated and talented developer (or more) who is willing to work with us.

I kind of agree with some of your points. However, you simply can't take peoples coins away from them with a fork because nobody would ever trust you again in the future not to do the same.

However if were very smart with the companion coin through qrk only ipo or burn we could get them back involved.

Of course a super block dilutes the huge wallets share by 10% the same it does for everyone. The superblock i have said many times is a 10% donation by everyone with proportional returns and losses. It's like everyone decided to donate 10% of their qrk through dilution.

For this to work well at the current price you would need some great plans, whitepapers and some great developers on board that will work for an eventual 5% of the minting perhaps even a bit more.
So that perceived future of qrk is attractive enough to inspire some qrk purchases on the market and subsequent price increase.

I think this would be attractive to certain development teams because they normal get shouted at for a 1% premine - along with this you get all the qrk core that will now have funding behind them for projects.


QRKfx proof of burn idea has a lot of merit the more you think about it if it is done as he suggests.

However you will need a great development team on board first.

Thanks yellow, i didn't trade with money i couldn't afford to lose. Keep up the good work

Hey Netnox,

I really feel for guys like you. I got in much later and barring a price correction have lost a decent chunk of cash, but nowhere near what you have. Glad to have you on board...hope we can get Quark back to a reasonable market cap:)

yea 20% of it was me moving around some funds for betting

Was looking at Cryptsy and noticed quarks volume is more than NXT and approaching Vertcoins volume. It's not much but was interesting to see

you're part of the core members, everyone that gets involved and does something for Quark, even if they aren't members of our new forum or members of quark reddit are considered important & core members and should be recognized as such even if they don't have registered accounts here or there

By the way regarding the new forum, all props go to Cashmen which was the primary quarker that made it happen and Quarkfx which helped with that amazing design!

okay I think with the new forum up and what seems to be some positive attitudes from a few that seem to be core members in moving forward I think there is a decent chance of a bright future. I'm definitely more optimistic then I was 24 hours ago, as a n00b I like what I have seen last 24 hours.

Hi Netnox, I want to say I respect the faith you've given Quark. I only found out about Quark early last month, I had huge issues with bitcoin last year with some mining equipment almost getting ripped of $40K. Since then I haven't followed any activity in crypto world till late December when I caught up with all the news and I remembered I had some forgotten bitcoins in mtgox and blockchain.info. Then in April I started investing again in Bitcoin and I slowly realized that the economic model serves only for hording and isn't a viable financial day to day purchases, so I started to look out for Alts which provide exactly this, from all the top 40 coins I must say the only viable alternative that I found was Quark!

The issue with large purses that is being brought up is false because every coin has it, hell even Satoshi has 1 million bitcoins which are thought to be either lost or simply left untouched. Why is false, because Quark is inflationary in nature and with the million coins added annually it only means that there is no reason for speculating on its value and so the 1000 miners that were mining in the first 6 months probably sold all their quark already and those that bought at that early stage took all the risks, so its only fair they should be rewarded if the value goes up. You are among those who took all the risks and now you're losing so huge respect to those like you that hold their QRK and also try to get involved in the community.

Well i'm up for new ideas if it benefits the coin itself and investors.

Netnox thats why i posted that active members would get an exchange after fork up to xxxxxx coins which would be max 999999 coins and i guess it would fit for you.You are a legit buyer who activly supported quark.

But please also understand that if there wont be any major changes quark will go soon down to nothing

Hi guys,

i am a top 29 quark holder with almost 1m quarks. I invested around $10k in Litecoin when they were around $2. I had around 6000 Litecoin which i sold all at between $24 and $26 each making $150k and exchanged them to BTC.

Before Quark i have been active in BTC-e and thats where i found out about Quark. Everyone was talking about it. I researched a little and was convinced to go big on it. I loved the brand, the logo, and the fact that pretty well known people in the industry were talking about it.

I don't know if you guys remember that picture at the forums someone posted which stated that there was a 100 BTC buy order for quark, well that was my order. I bought 500k quark at 0.00019 which made the price shoot up to 0.00032. So greed got me and i started to hold but then Bitcoin crashed and quark went with it. After that it went worse and 2 things that bothered me was kolins behaviour and developers inactivity at the time, but somehow i kept my fate and bought another 500k at lower prices.

So as you see i have lost around $140k (if i would sell) on quark, would i have been in Bitcoin i would have lost $50k. Meanwhile i have been giving around 40k quark to different projects like thunderclap where i gave away around 25k quark and apart from that i have been customising Quark subreddit to make it look nice. Notice that i'm just a trader and have no skills in coding and such so it's the best i can do. You might wonder why i don't give away much more, well the answer is simple i have already lost a lot and i'm certainly not rich in my private life. Although i still have fate in it and refuse to sell at these prices.

Regarding proof of burn i must say it sound pretty interesting, but doubts are naturally showing because it will be a new coin and will it be attractive amongst all these new coins, although with all these new scam coins coming out if one of them is not a scam with active and trustful dev team it will attract people. On the other hand quark already has settled itself and pretty well known, but then again as we know there are some issues with quark. I must say that i have seen great core members like quarkfx, vic, coinmama and couple others.

If you do fork, you can put some illegal addresses into the code that would be accepted to the blockchain.

That way if a burn (which I don't like the sound of) ever is done, it can be done to one of those illegal addresses and everyone knows they are destroyed because it is impossible for there to be a private key that matches.

This happened by accident in the history of bitcoin, a bug in mt gox sent coins to an illegal address effectively destroying them - and the protocol was changed to prevent that. I believe that change is also in quarkcoin so an exception to some specific illegal addresses would need to be manually put in to support a proper future burn if some did want to go that route.

Donating quark for new projects its worthless.What can a programmer do with 100k quarks if he can't even sell exchange them to fiat ?
You are worried for the big wallets ?Funny cause they gave shit about you and the community or did somebody saw a single one activly doing something for quark ?


Sorry to say it but you guys want to hold smart people in your community.The issue is smart people are not working as slaves for the big wallet holders as nothing else would describe it better.50 people with a 100k wallet each will try hard to get quark success so 1 faggot with his 33.000.000 wallet can take out all benefits.

Sorry you are not looking for a community you are looking for idiots.

How many times did the community called the big wallet holders for help so they could finish their projects on the old board?Did a single one answered ?


So stop worrying about this big wallet faggots who did nothing for quark expect mining at the first month and think more about members who are trying activly to push quark forward.
These activ members should get the most benefits out of quark and not faggots who want to make a quick buck by only hitting the mine button.

If you think these faggots shouldnt be touched because these are the rules so i can tell you there is also another rule that scam coins are dying and they wont get shit either

Hellish nonsense??

1. You propose some "companion coin" to COLLECT PEOPLES FUNDS for development and bounties. Know what? People don't like when their fund are collected even for saving the world. This is the clear scam for the majority which will only push the public away completely since as you probably know, Quark already have at least questionable reputation.
I have a big question considering this situation. If you have a viable community why the hell it needs some questionable technical stuff to simply organise and collect some funds? If you do need this stuff for such a purpose you don't have any viable community which could actually do something visible apart from covering each other with crap on forums.


I don't agree at all. I would give 10% of my quark to a transparent wallet used only for projects and to pay for development BUT only if others will also. Why should we give donations when the huge wallets will give nothing and stand to gain the most??

Let's stop arguing with people who just say blanked statements based on assumptions of what others do or don't like.

Let's get specific. Tell me one disadvantage of having a development pot that is transparent and funds used only for the development of qrk and qrk services?

People don't like their funds collected even to save the world does not apply. We are collecting funds to save their financial destruction not save the world.


However yes we can't fork and take peoples qrk away from them, that would be seen as changing the rules, but yes we can think of ways to get them involved and contributing to claim the new companion coin.

QRK needs funding all the core agree on this.

No successful new coins have emerged in the last 6 months where there is not an active dev with funding behind them.



Also i was not saying donators need to give 200k. What i meant was for those who will be elected to lead qrk forward should have a personal holding of qrk that gives them loyalty to our project.

Folks, what I've read in 10 latest pages is some kind of hellish nonsence.

1. You propose some "companion coin" to COLLECT PEOPLES FUNDS for development and bounties. Know what? People don't like when their fund are collected even for saving the world. This is the clear scam for the majority which will only push the public away completely since as you probably know, Quark already have at least questionable reputation.
I have a big question considering this situation. If you have a viable community why the hell it needs some questionable technical stuff to simply organise and collect some funds? If you do need this stuff for such a purpose you don't have any viable community which could actually do something visible apart from covering each other with crap on forums.

2. Don't like BIG WALLETS for them doing nothing for you? Have a bad news for you: they are part of the game as they didn't break any rules. And changing the rules will ruin the Quark for everyone it will become clear that it could be changed again and again at any unpredictable way. So I advise to kill you envy and carry on.

3. Just why you unleashed such a baiting on Kolin? Someone even said that he ruined all our efforts. If one guy on forum ruined all your efforts in something it's not his fault it's your fault for you deeds are so miserable.

Let's imagine a situation. I'm a big wallet and I want to devote some of my millions to a community project as I'm interested in Quark succes. And I'm wandering around and look. To whom? On which project? Where is even a tiny guarantee of its success? You demand them to participate in "community efforts" but where are they? All you're doing is building castles in the air, fighting forum trolls and blaming each other for the losses.
Now you probably understand why big wallets escaping, fiat and bitcoin investors don't uppear.

I'm writing this not to insult someone. Just look at yourselves and think what could be done today and in future to help the quark and each other. Everyone could do something.

Still, we have GitHub repository:
https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark
Not everyone able to code and write tests, but everyone can write faqs, tutorials, make translations to language you know.
We have trello boards:
https://trello.com/b/1hBBvhoE/quark-planet
https://trello.com/b/HatkOwER/merge-mine-to-support-the-qrk-network-project
https://trello.com/b/tswQsadm/the-iceland-project
https://trello.com/b/DG6wKzQu/eve-online
Please don't be shy and help people there. Or offer some project by yourself. There our community could establish more civilized discussion without troll fighting and crap throwing.
Even Shibe-stile promoting in social networks forcing stupid memes will bring more than half of this topic.
If everyone devote 5 minutes of his or her precious time to this Quark eventually rise and shine. Yes, it's that simple.

yes its undervalued right now due to negative press but it has potential to grow, both in community and price, but remember 1 million quarks are mined annually so its inflationary in nature don't expect big growth, expect a stable price around $0.02-$0.03