Dev Meeting Transcript (August 6, 2021)
[4:06 PM] Tron: Hi everyone.
[4:06 PM] Hedger: Hello :sunrise_over_mountains:
[4:07 PM] #1RVNfan: Hello!
[4:08 PM] Sevvy (King Clot): Hi
[4:09 PM] kralverde: Howdy
[4:09 PM] JeremyHS: :wave:
[4:09 PM] Tron: I don't have any specific agenda items.
[4:10 PM] Tron: I have a couple of updates.
[4:10 PM] Tron: We finally got the phone number updated on the Ravencoin Foundation records which was holding up the signing key.
[4:10 PM] Tron: Next step is to have them verify that via the third party (D&B).
[4:11 PM] Tron: ------------------
[4:11 PM] Tron: ISE is getting me an estimate on doing a security evaluation on all the other non-P2SH changes. Expecting that in about a week.
[4:12 PM] kralverde: If they were to do a review, how long would that be?
[4:12 PM] Tron: I'm not sure. I'm sure that will be included with their estimate.
[4:14 PM] Tron: There's been lots of activity over the last few days. OnTheBlock has been working to line up podcasts.
[4:14 PM] Tron: Ravencoin is LunarCrush coin of the day (again).
[4:15 PM] #1RVNfan: Were you able to get in touch with Stably?
[4:15 PM] #1RVNfan: Regarding the stable coin on RVN
[4:18 PM] Tron: Not yet.
[4:20 PM] kralverde: After we get these signing keys and make the release, what are you looking at for next steps development wise
[4:20 PM] Tron: I just e-mailed Stably to see where we are and what we can do to push that forward.
[4:22 PM] Tron: I think it would nice to have better support for memos (in Core). It would also be nice to have 2nd tier UI solution for messaging, and memos. Just a site that makes them available via a web page, and via an API.
[4:23 PM] kralverde: And what does a memo in this context mean
[4:24 PM] kralverde: An asset message?
[4:24 PM] Tron: A memo is an IPFS hash (Content Id) that goes with a transaction.
[4:25 PM] kralverde: Nice ive heard asset messages and broadcasts are a bit lacking in the ui right now
[4:25 PM] Tron: Message (IPFS sent with tx in a loop to root asset admin token), Meta-Data (IPFS with asset creation transaction), Memo (IPFS with any transaction).
[4:25 PM] kralverde: Ah so memo is the op return?
[4:26 PM] Tron: Yes.
[4:26 PM] Tron: Core protocol supports them all. UI support is spotty so usage is spotty.
[4:28 PM] Tron: Ideally, once support is added, then other wallets (Moon Tree, Stibits, MangoFarm, Zelcore, etc) will support them.
[4:28 PM] Tron: If it is popular, then maybe Edge, Exodus, Trust Wallet, etc would also support memos.
[4:29 PM] Tron: These are immutable (public) memos. Different than adding a memo in Exodus which is local only.
[4:29 PM] Tron: Of course they can be encrypted if they are for your eyes only.
[4:37 PM] #1RVNfan: What about SegWit? @WhaleStreet also mentioned researching covenants - is that something the devs are interested in looking into?
[4:39 PM] kralverde: I know there were throwing around ideas of making a new type of transaction to make buy/sell orders on some kind of decentralized listing based on ben’s atomic swaps
[4:39 PM] JustAResearcher: Segwit would be nice. Taproot would be nice. MWEB would be nice. There’s a lot of things we could do.
[4:41 PM] #1RVNfan: That sounds interesting. Is that related to covenants or something different?
[4:41 PM] kralverde: It would be our own thing
[4:44 PM] #1RVNfan: Very cool I'd love to hear more about that. Is there an ongoing discussion happening somewhere we can follow?
[4:44 PM] kralverde: It was during a qt voice meeting two weeks ago (every wednesday 1530ET)
[4:45 PM] kralverde: Just an idea right now
[5:02 PM] Hedger: @Tron what projects devs working on you think will make it to the core gui first? Thx
[5:08 PM] Tron: There are no central devs. There are generous volunteer devs, and bounty incentivized devs.
[5:09 PM] Tron: If there is a general consensus on what should be incentivized, I'll add bounties for issues (improvements).
[5:11 PM] Tron: ------
[5:12 PM] Tron: Closing the channel....
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August 06, 2021, 05:25:58 PM
August 06, 2021, 03:41:26 PM
lol spoken like a true 'holder' only cos you think you're in the know. this is rekt project and is nothing but fodder for whales to pnd all day long. lmao those figures you show 1y...yeah obv because jan 2021 was pump season thru this year...yet shit been dead for 2yrs prior loool. and don't call me missed and crying, i been in rvn year back for all the in/outs.
You have been anti-rvn and throwing shade since your first post here.
Sorry douche bag, You have never traded RVN, would have to show me the on chain trades -
you have been nothing but a FUD salesman for years.
you have never added any value here - not one helpful insights.
Nothing but Fud.
Sorry loser -
Or prove me wrong, share your research - show me the whales and the pump and dumps.
Or does moving higher on increasing volume with a growing user base mean pump and dump to you
Just stop spreading FUD.
August 06, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
lol spoken like a true 'holder' only cos you think you're in the know. this is rekt project and is nothing but fodder for whales to pnd all day long. lmao those figures you show 1y...yeah obv because jan 2021 was pump season thru this year...yet shit been dead for 2yrs prior loool. and don't call me missed and crying, i been in rvn year back for all the in/outs.
You have been anti-rvn and throwing shade since your first post here.
Sorry douche bag, You have never traded RVN, would have to show me the on chain trades -
you have been nothing but a FUD salesman for years.
you have never added any value here - not one helpful insights.
Nothing but Fud.
Sorry loser -
Or prove me wrong, share your research - show me the whales and the pump and dumps.
Or does moving higher on increasing volume with a growing user base mean pump and dump to you
Just stop spreading FUD.
August 06, 2021, 02:16:54 PM
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Oh Broken Piston,
Still can't add value to the conversation. Still crying over the missed opportunities. Your ADK is a shit coin with no support, no use case, and you attack RVN - why?
Show me the pump and dump
RVN returns:
1h 24h 7d 14d 30d 1y
1.0% 8.9% 20.3% 33.4% 27.2% 244.7%
Buy the dips, sell the runs and cash in all day long.
2021 has been a great year to trade RVN.
Tron Black has done a great job with RVN. And I would like to thank him for making me so, so much money.
Thank you Tron - keep up the good work!
lol spoken like a true 'holder' only cos you think you're in the know. this is rekt project and is nothing but fodder for whales to pnd all day long. lmao those figures you show 1y...yeah obv because jan 2021 was pump season thru this year...yet shit been dead for 2yrs prior loool. and don't call me missed and crying, i been in rvn year back for all the in/outs.
August 06, 2021, 01:49:11 PM
August 03, 2021, 04:35:58 PM
Pump and dump currently active
Oh Broken Piston,
Still can't add value to the conversation. Still crying over the missed opportunities. Your ADK is a shit coin with no support, no use case, and you attack RVN - why?
Show me the pump and dump
RVN returns:
1h 24h 7d 14d 30d 1y
1.0% 8.9% 20.3% 33.4% 27.2% 244.7%
Buy the dips, sell the runs and cash in all day long.
2021 has been a great year to trade RVN.
Tron Black has done a great job with RVN. And I would like to thank him for making me so, so much money.
Thank you Tron - keep up the good work!
July 30, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Dev Meeting Transcript (July 30, 2021)
[4:10 PM] Tron: Channel is open
[4:14 PM] kinkajou: hello!
[4:16 PM] Wilson. CEO ฿: Hi
[4:16 PM] parole895: :100:
[4:17 PM] Sevvy (bootlicker): Hello
[4:17 PM] Sevvy (bootlicker): So, what's new?
[4:21 PM] kinkajou: I saw @Hans_Schmidt managed a successful HTLC cross-chain atomic swap from BTC to RVN asset on the testnet - do we have any update on P2SH? I think we were waiting on another quote/review from ISE?
[4:22 PM] kralverde: Noice
[4:23 PM] Tron: Yes. Still waiting on a bid for a security audit on entire change (critical parts)
[4:24 PM] Tron: Awesome work from @Hans_Schmidt
[4:25 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Thanks- the P2SH code worked great for the HTLC
[4:31 PM] kinkajou: Very exciting stuff. I know a lot of people on Reddit have been asking about the possibility of cross-chain swaps to RVN assets so pretty big deal having someone successfully complete one to prove it can be done.
I'd like to bring up the stably stablecoin again. I know initially there was not much interest in a stablecoin on RVN (and I was among those uninterested) but I think with @Ben s work on Raventrader and atomic swaps it might be worth revisiting.
[4:33 PM] kinkajou: Is there any other community/developer interest in a stablecoin for Ravencoin? I think it would be nice for on-chain DeFi and there's a lot of negative headlines about tether lately
[4:33 PM] Ben: hey all, great to hear about the HTLC (would love to see the code @hans)
sorry i haven't been around much, been working on a bit of an under wraps project for a while :slight_smile:
[4:34 PM] Tron: I would like a stable coin too. It opens up possibilities.
[4:34 PM] Tron: The general fund is insufficient right now for the amount they were asking.
[4:35 PM] Tron: The general fund could contribute to a stable coin fund. That would also help gauge interest.
[4:35 PM] Kent Bull: What is HTLC?
[4:36 PM] kinkajou: I would be open to donating toward a stablecoin on RVN. What's the best way to go about setting up a project-specific fund for this?
[4:37 PM] kinkajou: Hash Time Locked Contracts https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hash_Time_Locked_Contracts
[4:40 PM] Kent Bull: Earlier this year OpenDAO and pNetwork were interested in setting up a $RVN0 stablecoin. The https://omnicomp.ocp.finance/ DApp originally supported staking pRVN for the USD0 stablecoin.
[4:40 PM] Kent Bull: I believe I frustrated them by asking so many questions about exactly how the bridge worked. I should have done more research to figure it out on my own.
[4:41 PM] Kent Bull: What it came down to is they were asking $500K from the RVN community to support a pRVN bridge to a RVN-backed stablecoin $RVN0
[4:41 PM] Kent Bull: When we didn't gather enough backers then we ended up calling it a miss, which I take some responsibility for.
[4:43 PM] Kent Bull: V1 of their DApp shows pRVN as an option: https://v1omnicomp.ocp.finance/
[4:44 PM] kinkajou: $500k is an awful lot of money - I thought Stably only wanted a bit over $100k?
Personally I had a bit of trouble understanding pRVN and the staking as well - but I don't necessarily think we need a liquidity pool/staking option right away. Simply having a stablecoin on-chain would open up a lot of possibilities alone.
[4:44 PM] Tron: It was $120K.
[4:45 PM] Kent Bull: Thanks for the correction. I must have remembered wrong.
[4:45 PM] Tron: They subsequently came up with a plan that wasn’t cheaper, but contributed all their code as open source.
[4:46 PM] kinkajou: Open source is a must IMO.
[4:47 PM] Tron: Their big value-add is their ability to mint/burn and use a custodian for the USD.
[4:48 PM] Tron: I’ll open the conversation with them.
[4:49 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Ben, I hope the details I published about the Raven_asset/BTC HTLC Swap will be enough for people to understand how it works and write the code they need. If you have not see it, it's at:
https://hans-schmidt.github.io/mastering_ravencoin/analysis/HTLC_P2SH_Cross-Chain_Atomic_Swaps_RVN-Assets_With_BTC.html
I did this HTLC swap by extensively modifying a python library and writing a Jupyter notebook around it. It's a bit hacky for publication, but I can certainly share more details with you when you are ready if the description on my website is insufficient.
Also, I have been giving a lot of thought to your Issue raising questions about support for 2-step swaps in core, and I hope to make a proposal soon which addresses your questions and makes Ravencoin better suited as a defi major player.
[4:50 PM] Final Boss: I check for traps
[4:51 PM] Ben: all sounds great, will give it a read. and yea, i wanna make sure the core implementation is well defined before getting started on it
[4:54 PM] Kent Bull: @Hans_Schmidt If you'd like someone to replicate the HTLC cross-chain atomic swap let me know. I'd love to replicate the work you did, just to add numbers to the story.
[4:55 PM] Kent Bull: I'd like to see what it means and how it works.
[4:56 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Great. Give that doc a read and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
[4:56 PM] Kent Bull: I'll start there.
[5:01 PM] Kent Bull: An on-chain stablecoin would be cool. Would we implement that as an Asset?
[5:02 PM] Kent Bull: With a smart contract on another chain to control supply or something like that?
[5:03 PM] kinkajou: Hmm that might've been an assumption on my part come to think of it. I'm not sure if I ever remember reading about it being "on-chain". Hopefully Tron can provide us more details when he gets in touch.
[5:03 PM] kinkajou: edit: @Tron mentions a stablecoin "on platform" at the dev meeting on April 9: https://discord.com/channels/429127343165145089/482289959261175838/830185035683594260
So that would be RVN yes?
[5:07 PM] Ben: there would be an on-chain asset yes, but an off-chain contract to support it and maintain the value
[5:08 PM] Hans_Schmidt: From "pRVN bridge to a RVN-backed stablecoin $RVN0", I got the impression that this scheme locked RVN so that pRVN could be traded on Ethereum markets. We need the opposite- we need a bridge which allows us to lock value on Ethereum and other chains into Ravencoin assets so that we can trade those assets on Ravencoin.
[5:09 PM] Kent Bull: That's why I was so confused. I thought we needed the opposite as well.
[5:10 PM] Kent Bull: Then again, maybe I still have it backwards.
[5:10 PM] Tron: Agree. The token is on-chain. The backing is custodial USD. Backed 1:1
[5:13 PM] Tron: pRVN is just RVN collateral. This way USD can be borrowed into existence with over-collateralization
[5:13 PM] Tron: This protects the lender.
[5:13 PM] Tron: And loans are not taxed. Selling is taxed.
[4:10 PM] Tron: Channel is open
[4:14 PM] kinkajou: hello!
[4:16 PM] Wilson. CEO ฿: Hi
[4:16 PM] parole895: :100:
[4:17 PM] Sevvy (bootlicker): Hello
[4:17 PM] Sevvy (bootlicker): So, what's new?
[4:21 PM] kinkajou: I saw @Hans_Schmidt managed a successful HTLC cross-chain atomic swap from BTC to RVN asset on the testnet - do we have any update on P2SH? I think we were waiting on another quote/review from ISE?
[4:22 PM] kralverde: Noice
[4:23 PM] Tron: Yes. Still waiting on a bid for a security audit on entire change (critical parts)
[4:24 PM] Tron: Awesome work from @Hans_Schmidt
[4:25 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Thanks- the P2SH code worked great for the HTLC
[4:31 PM] kinkajou: Very exciting stuff. I know a lot of people on Reddit have been asking about the possibility of cross-chain swaps to RVN assets so pretty big deal having someone successfully complete one to prove it can be done.
I'd like to bring up the stably stablecoin again. I know initially there was not much interest in a stablecoin on RVN (and I was among those uninterested) but I think with @Ben s work on Raventrader and atomic swaps it might be worth revisiting.
[4:33 PM] kinkajou: Is there any other community/developer interest in a stablecoin for Ravencoin? I think it would be nice for on-chain DeFi and there's a lot of negative headlines about tether lately
[4:33 PM] Ben: hey all, great to hear about the HTLC (would love to see the code @hans)
sorry i haven't been around much, been working on a bit of an under wraps project for a while :slight_smile:
[4:34 PM] Tron: I would like a stable coin too. It opens up possibilities.
[4:34 PM] Tron: The general fund is insufficient right now for the amount they were asking.
[4:35 PM] Tron: The general fund could contribute to a stable coin fund. That would also help gauge interest.
[4:35 PM] Kent Bull: What is HTLC?
[4:36 PM] kinkajou: I would be open to donating toward a stablecoin on RVN. What's the best way to go about setting up a project-specific fund for this?
[4:37 PM] kinkajou: Hash Time Locked Contracts https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hash_Time_Locked_Contracts
[4:40 PM] Kent Bull: Earlier this year OpenDAO and pNetwork were interested in setting up a $RVN0 stablecoin. The https://omnicomp.ocp.finance/ DApp originally supported staking pRVN for the USD0 stablecoin.
[4:40 PM] Kent Bull: I believe I frustrated them by asking so many questions about exactly how the bridge worked. I should have done more research to figure it out on my own.
[4:41 PM] Kent Bull: What it came down to is they were asking $500K from the RVN community to support a pRVN bridge to a RVN-backed stablecoin $RVN0
[4:41 PM] Kent Bull: When we didn't gather enough backers then we ended up calling it a miss, which I take some responsibility for.
[4:43 PM] Kent Bull: V1 of their DApp shows pRVN as an option: https://v1omnicomp.ocp.finance/
[4:44 PM] kinkajou: $500k is an awful lot of money - I thought Stably only wanted a bit over $100k?
Personally I had a bit of trouble understanding pRVN and the staking as well - but I don't necessarily think we need a liquidity pool/staking option right away. Simply having a stablecoin on-chain would open up a lot of possibilities alone.
[4:44 PM] Tron: It was $120K.
[4:45 PM] Kent Bull: Thanks for the correction. I must have remembered wrong.
[4:45 PM] Tron: They subsequently came up with a plan that wasn’t cheaper, but contributed all their code as open source.
[4:46 PM] kinkajou: Open source is a must IMO.
[4:47 PM] Tron: Their big value-add is their ability to mint/burn and use a custodian for the USD.
[4:48 PM] Tron: I’ll open the conversation with them.
[4:49 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Ben, I hope the details I published about the Raven_asset/BTC HTLC Swap will be enough for people to understand how it works and write the code they need. If you have not see it, it's at:
https://hans-schmidt.github.io/mastering_ravencoin/analysis/HTLC_P2SH_Cross-Chain_Atomic_Swaps_RVN-Assets_With_BTC.html
I did this HTLC swap by extensively modifying a python library and writing a Jupyter notebook around it. It's a bit hacky for publication, but I can certainly share more details with you when you are ready if the description on my website is insufficient.
Also, I have been giving a lot of thought to your Issue raising questions about support for 2-step swaps in core, and I hope to make a proposal soon which addresses your questions and makes Ravencoin better suited as a defi major player.
[4:50 PM] Final Boss: I check for traps
[4:51 PM] Ben: all sounds great, will give it a read. and yea, i wanna make sure the core implementation is well defined before getting started on it
[4:54 PM] Kent Bull: @Hans_Schmidt If you'd like someone to replicate the HTLC cross-chain atomic swap let me know. I'd love to replicate the work you did, just to add numbers to the story.
[4:55 PM] Kent Bull: I'd like to see what it means and how it works.
[4:56 PM] Hans_Schmidt: Great. Give that doc a read and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
[4:56 PM] Kent Bull: I'll start there.
[5:01 PM] Kent Bull: An on-chain stablecoin would be cool. Would we implement that as an Asset?
[5:02 PM] Kent Bull: With a smart contract on another chain to control supply or something like that?
[5:03 PM] kinkajou: Hmm that might've been an assumption on my part come to think of it. I'm not sure if I ever remember reading about it being "on-chain". Hopefully Tron can provide us more details when he gets in touch.
[5:03 PM] kinkajou: edit: @Tron mentions a stablecoin "on platform" at the dev meeting on April 9: https://discord.com/channels/429127343165145089/482289959261175838/830185035683594260
So that would be RVN yes?
[5:07 PM] Ben: there would be an on-chain asset yes, but an off-chain contract to support it and maintain the value
[5:08 PM] Hans_Schmidt: From "pRVN bridge to a RVN-backed stablecoin $RVN0", I got the impression that this scheme locked RVN so that pRVN could be traded on Ethereum markets. We need the opposite- we need a bridge which allows us to lock value on Ethereum and other chains into Ravencoin assets so that we can trade those assets on Ravencoin.
[5:09 PM] Kent Bull: That's why I was so confused. I thought we needed the opposite as well.
[5:10 PM] Kent Bull: Then again, maybe I still have it backwards.
[5:10 PM] Tron: Agree. The token is on-chain. The backing is custodial USD. Backed 1:1
[5:13 PM] Tron: pRVN is just RVN collateral. This way USD can be borrowed into existence with over-collateralization
[5:13 PM] Tron: This protects the lender.
[5:13 PM] Tron: And loans are not taxed. Selling is taxed.
July 30, 2021, 12:39:20 PM
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July 30, 2021, 09:41:52 AM
For this coin to be covered with a copper basin!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
The only scammer here is you. Stop trying to blame others for your own inability to secure your devices.
Not just me, but several more of the wallets lost coins!
The coins were transferred to the same exchange wallet!
The project managers don't even try to figure out what happened!
Therefore, the following conclusion is obtained:
This project is a big scam!
All of your wallets lost coins because your device was compromised. Your device was compromised because you are a careless/irresponsible individual. There are no current known vulnerabilities in RavenCore software and we've had multiple security audits to substantiate this. Therefore, the following conclusion is obtained: you are a moron.
New Ravencoin SitRep Podcast on tokenizing real-estate here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/75DUapJA9kt5zNT1oc4xvz
The second part of the marketing competition (visual advertisement) is also live! Come submit your artwork here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ravencoin/comments/othrqd/contest_time_submit_your_ravencoin_blockchain_for/
July 24, 2021, 11:05:34 AM
For this coin to be covered with a copper basin!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
The only scammer here is you. Stop trying to blame others for your own inability to secure your devices.
Not just me, but several more of the wallets lost coins!
The coins were transferred to the same exchange wallet!
The project managers don't even try to figure out what happened!
Therefore, the following conclusion is obtained:
This project is a big scam!
July 20, 2021, 10:45:51 AM
New Ravencoin SitRep Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7bxsRgnyKOEHSTSxG9LIqL
This week's episode focuses on NFTs/NFT markets and features guests from RVNFT.art, IPAssets, Zaytech, and more!
The marketing competition mentioned in the podcast is also currently live on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ravencoin/comments/onpyhz/ravencoin_slogan_contest_500_rvn_to_the_winning/
This week's episode focuses on NFTs/NFT markets and features guests from RVNFT.art, IPAssets, Zaytech, and more!
The marketing competition mentioned in the podcast is also currently live on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ravencoin/comments/onpyhz/ravencoin_slogan_contest_500_rvn_to_the_winning/
July 16, 2021, 07:41:50 PM
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July 16, 2021, 07:08:09 PM
Dev Meeting Transcript (July 16, 2021)
[4:24 PM] Someone_2: Going to guess the meeting hasn't really started yet, will check back in a bit.
[4:25 PM] kralverde: If you want to ask some questions they can be answered in a bit
[4:27 PM] kralverde: We also have meetings for special interests every wednesday in voice channels for more indepth discussion on core and electrum; the friday development meetings are kind of just a review for what has gone on the past week
[4:29 PM] Tron: Hi everyone. Sorry I'm late. I got here and opened the channel. Usually this is already done.
[4:30 PM] kralverde: Everyone’s busy weeks aligned it seems
[4:31 PM] kralverde: Am i correct in hearing that the core just needs a code review/audit before the next release?
[4:31 PM] Tron: We've done one review/audit of P2SH.
[4:32 PM] Tron: I've asked ISE for an estimate for reviewing the rest of the code, and I've asked CertiK for the same. Both should have a response by early next week.
[4:33 PM] Tron:
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[4:33 PM] Tron: P2SH assessment
[4:37 PM] kinkajou: Tron some community developers have pointed out that github issues related to mobile wallets tend to get ignored and PRs not receiving much/any attention. Are there any plans to address the current mobile wallets? And if not, could we perhaps looking into archiving them or noting somewhere on the development pages that the projects are no longer being prioritized/maintained?
[4:40 PM] Tron: Excellent questions. I think the SPV wallets are worth having. I am not a mobile dev, but I can put bounties on the mobile wallet issues. The Android version in particular needs help to be a viable wallet.
[4:41 PM] kinkajou: There are currently multiple open PRs for the android wallet related to bounties posted on the foundation site. It seems based on the bounties site that Ben completed many bounties and was paid for this work but the PRs have not been merged. Is this just a matter of not having reviewers?
[4:41 PM] kralverde: I would image thats the case
[4:42 PM] kralverde: It might be best to add some more contributor accounts to certain repos
[4:44 PM] kralverde: We do have the moontree workers hard at work on an alternate app https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven though this is being built from scratch and will likely be a few months out
[4:45 PM] kralverde: Though theyve said theyre working on a mockup ui now for basic transactions
[4:45 PM] kinkajou: Agreed. It would be nice to get those PRs reviewed and merged since they represent many thousands of dollars in foundation funds. The ravenwallet-android repo overall could use some updating. https://github.com/RavenProject/ravenwallet-android
At least to help point developers in the right direction
[4:46 PM] kinkajou: Don't want to lose developers that want to contribute because they are confused by the workflows
[4:47 PM] Tron: Stibits works on iOS, and MangoFarmAssets also works on mobile for both platforms, and moontree is coming, but there is still value to SPV wallets. Exodus, Edge, Trust Wallet and many others work for RVN, but not assets.
[4:47 PM] kralverde: (if anyone knows java/js , are reading this elsewhere and are motivated to do some code overhauls reach out on the discord)
[4:48 PM] kralverde: Who is incharge of updating these on the app store?
[4:48 PM] Tron: I've built iOS RVN before, and can do it again. I've not installed the iOS dev environment on my current system.
[4:48 PM] kralverde: I think there should also be a warning about mining to the rvn mobile wallets specifically
(Though there have only been a few issues ive heard of)
[4:49 PM] Tron: I can update on iOS app store.
[4:49 PM] kinkajou: Right, I don't think there is any shortage of working mobile wallets. Rather the problem is that the "official" mobile wallets (on the projectraven repo) seem deprecated/unsupported and community developers attempts to update these "official" wallets are not noticed or seemingly not prioritized. If we could get a notice posted on the github that efforts have largely shifted to other mobile wallet platforms I think that would be helpful.
[4:50 PM] kinkajou: Or a notice that we need more reviewers before development can continue if that is the case.
[4:51 PM] kinkajou: It seems obvious to many here just to check the development channel in Discord but to many outside devs working from Github alone that is not the case. And there is nothing on those Github pages directing them here
[4:52 PM] kralverde: We can talk to the admins here to create channels to sort of form some kind of mobile wallet sig
[4:53 PM] kralverde: Do you want to try and find devs/organize this kinkajou
[4:53 PM] Tron: If we have a mobile-wallet-SIG, or a mobile-wallet-android-SIG, I'll reference it via the README in the GitHub.
[4:55 PM] kinkajou: I don't think I'm at all qualified but I'll help in any way I can. But again I don't think the issue has anything to do with SIGs in this Discord or elsewhere on Github. Rather the issue is that our current mobile wallet repos on the ravenproject Github are confusing to new developers looking to contribute.
If it was a significant enough problem for one mobile dev to seek out a channel specifically to voice discontent then I have to believe other devs are experiencing the same confusion and simply choosing to forego the project.
[4:56 PM] kralverde: You seem to be motivated enough to be asking about it :wink:
[4:57 PM] kralverde: Of course no pressure, but it would really just be trying to pull in devs/organize the qualms people have with the current mobile wallet
[5:00 PM] kinkajou: I don't know anything about mobile dev and I cannot code JS if my life depended on it which feels important/relevant here. I would be happy to help attempt to organize if that is the only way forward here.
My view is that the Github needs to be updated or a notice should simply be posted in the current mobile wallet repos directing devs here or elsewhere. It sounds like that is what Tron is talking about doing?
[5:02 PM] Tron: You are right, the accepted PRs should be integrated, built and deployed. I will start with iOS. I don't think I have the credentials needed for Android deployment, but I can ask around.
[5:04 PM] Tron: Just got a message back from CertiK. CertiK isn't able to do a security review until Sept or Oct. To me, that seems too late. Thoughts?
[5:05 PM] Jeroz: Ah thanks. I wanted to bring up the exact same issue after someone raised these concerns on Reddit. He said that he posted an issue first to see if there was any action/development going on before actually committing to submitting code. He was disappointed that he did not receive any response for quite some time and that other issues have long been ignored.
[5:05 PM] kinkajou: That would be great! Seems like Ben put a lot of hours in there so would be nice to reap the benefits of his hard work heh
[5:06 PM] Jeroz: Late indeed
[5:06 PM] kralverde: Did we want certik for some reason? What about ISE?
[5:07 PM] Tron: ISE is also going to give me an estimate. (next week)
[5:07 PM] Jeroz: ISE only reviewed the specific P2SH part
[5:07 PM] Jeroz: If I understand correctly
[5:08 PM] Tron: Correct. The estimate is for the as-yet-not-security-reviewed-by-ISE non-P2SH code.
[5:08 PM] Jeroz: Yeah, which seems a bit weird now (since there is way more new code) but when it was initiated, I think the only new part was P2SH submitted to the develop tree
[5:16 PM] Tron: I'll get the estimate from ISE (time & money) and we can decide from there.
[5:16 PM] Jeroz: Cool
[5:18 PM] Jeroz: Do we have a time schedule yet on what and when we want to release the new stuff? I’ve been mostly occupied elsewhere lately
[5:21 PM] Jeroz: I guess too many peeps are on vacation around this time :p
[5:22 PM] kralverde: ^
[5:24 PM] Tron: I think it is dependent on getting it reviewed. Once we have info from ISE we can decide from there.
[5:27 PM] Tron: I'm still fighting to get an EV code signing cert. Phone number listed on Dun and Bradstreet isn't the one I submitted for EV so it has been rejected. I was told that even a non-EV code signing cert requires third-party verification of a phone number. Working with the Foundation Treasurer to sort this out.
[5:30 PM] Panoramix: Too late indeed. Queue them up for the next audit though, having that extra parameter on CMC matters in the grand scheme
[5:33 PM] Tron: I'll let them know.
[5:36 PM] Tron: Thank you everyone. I'm going to close the meeting, so these don't drag on into the evening for some. I'll work on iOS PRs this week.
[4:24 PM] Someone_2: Going to guess the meeting hasn't really started yet, will check back in a bit.
[4:25 PM] kralverde: If you want to ask some questions they can be answered in a bit
[4:27 PM] kralverde: We also have meetings for special interests every wednesday in voice channels for more indepth discussion on core and electrum; the friday development meetings are kind of just a review for what has gone on the past week
[4:29 PM] Tron: Hi everyone. Sorry I'm late. I got here and opened the channel. Usually this is already done.
[4:30 PM] kralverde: Everyone’s busy weeks aligned it seems
[4:31 PM] kralverde: Am i correct in hearing that the core just needs a code review/audit before the next release?
[4:31 PM] Tron: We've done one review/audit of P2SH.
[4:32 PM] Tron: I've asked ISE for an estimate for reviewing the rest of the code, and I've asked CertiK for the same. Both should have a response by early next week.
[4:33 PM] Tron:
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[4:33 PM] Tron: P2SH assessment
[4:37 PM] kinkajou: Tron some community developers have pointed out that github issues related to mobile wallets tend to get ignored and PRs not receiving much/any attention. Are there any plans to address the current mobile wallets? And if not, could we perhaps looking into archiving them or noting somewhere on the development pages that the projects are no longer being prioritized/maintained?
[4:40 PM] Tron: Excellent questions. I think the SPV wallets are worth having. I am not a mobile dev, but I can put bounties on the mobile wallet issues. The Android version in particular needs help to be a viable wallet.
[4:41 PM] kinkajou: There are currently multiple open PRs for the android wallet related to bounties posted on the foundation site. It seems based on the bounties site that Ben completed many bounties and was paid for this work but the PRs have not been merged. Is this just a matter of not having reviewers?
[4:41 PM] kralverde: I would image thats the case
[4:42 PM] kralverde: It might be best to add some more contributor accounts to certain repos
[4:44 PM] kralverde: We do have the moontree workers hard at work on an alternate app https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven though this is being built from scratch and will likely be a few months out
[4:45 PM] kralverde: Though theyve said theyre working on a mockup ui now for basic transactions
[4:45 PM] kinkajou: Agreed. It would be nice to get those PRs reviewed and merged since they represent many thousands of dollars in foundation funds. The ravenwallet-android repo overall could use some updating. https://github.com/RavenProject/ravenwallet-android
At least to help point developers in the right direction
[4:46 PM] kinkajou: Don't want to lose developers that want to contribute because they are confused by the workflows
[4:47 PM] Tron: Stibits works on iOS, and MangoFarmAssets also works on mobile for both platforms, and moontree is coming, but there is still value to SPV wallets. Exodus, Edge, Trust Wallet and many others work for RVN, but not assets.
[4:47 PM] kralverde: (if anyone knows java/js , are reading this elsewhere and are motivated to do some code overhauls reach out on the discord)
[4:48 PM] kralverde: Who is incharge of updating these on the app store?
[4:48 PM] Tron: I've built iOS RVN before, and can do it again. I've not installed the iOS dev environment on my current system.
[4:48 PM] kralverde: I think there should also be a warning about mining to the rvn mobile wallets specifically
(Though there have only been a few issues ive heard of)
[4:49 PM] Tron: I can update on iOS app store.
[4:49 PM] kinkajou: Right, I don't think there is any shortage of working mobile wallets. Rather the problem is that the "official" mobile wallets (on the projectraven repo) seem deprecated/unsupported and community developers attempts to update these "official" wallets are not noticed or seemingly not prioritized. If we could get a notice posted on the github that efforts have largely shifted to other mobile wallet platforms I think that would be helpful.
[4:50 PM] kinkajou: Or a notice that we need more reviewers before development can continue if that is the case.
[4:51 PM] kinkajou: It seems obvious to many here just to check the development channel in Discord but to many outside devs working from Github alone that is not the case. And there is nothing on those Github pages directing them here
[4:52 PM] kralverde: We can talk to the admins here to create channels to sort of form some kind of mobile wallet sig
[4:53 PM] kralverde: Do you want to try and find devs/organize this kinkajou
[4:53 PM] Tron: If we have a mobile-wallet-SIG, or a mobile-wallet-android-SIG, I'll reference it via the README in the GitHub.
[4:55 PM] kinkajou: I don't think I'm at all qualified but I'll help in any way I can. But again I don't think the issue has anything to do with SIGs in this Discord or elsewhere on Github. Rather the issue is that our current mobile wallet repos on the ravenproject Github are confusing to new developers looking to contribute.
If it was a significant enough problem for one mobile dev to seek out a channel specifically to voice discontent then I have to believe other devs are experiencing the same confusion and simply choosing to forego the project.
[4:56 PM] kralverde: You seem to be motivated enough to be asking about it :wink:
[4:57 PM] kralverde: Of course no pressure, but it would really just be trying to pull in devs/organize the qualms people have with the current mobile wallet
[5:00 PM] kinkajou: I don't know anything about mobile dev and I cannot code JS if my life depended on it which feels important/relevant here. I would be happy to help attempt to organize if that is the only way forward here.
My view is that the Github needs to be updated or a notice should simply be posted in the current mobile wallet repos directing devs here or elsewhere. It sounds like that is what Tron is talking about doing?
[5:02 PM] Tron: You are right, the accepted PRs should be integrated, built and deployed. I will start with iOS. I don't think I have the credentials needed for Android deployment, but I can ask around.
[5:04 PM] Tron: Just got a message back from CertiK. CertiK isn't able to do a security review until Sept or Oct. To me, that seems too late. Thoughts?
[5:05 PM] Jeroz: Ah thanks. I wanted to bring up the exact same issue after someone raised these concerns on Reddit. He said that he posted an issue first to see if there was any action/development going on before actually committing to submitting code. He was disappointed that he did not receive any response for quite some time and that other issues have long been ignored.
[5:05 PM] kinkajou: That would be great! Seems like Ben put a lot of hours in there so would be nice to reap the benefits of his hard work heh
[5:06 PM] Jeroz: Late indeed
[5:06 PM] kralverde: Did we want certik for some reason? What about ISE?
[5:07 PM] Tron: ISE is also going to give me an estimate. (next week)
[5:07 PM] Jeroz: ISE only reviewed the specific P2SH part
[5:07 PM] Jeroz: If I understand correctly
[5:08 PM] Tron: Correct. The estimate is for the as-yet-not-security-reviewed-by-ISE non-P2SH code.
[5:08 PM] Jeroz: Yeah, which seems a bit weird now (since there is way more new code) but when it was initiated, I think the only new part was P2SH submitted to the develop tree
[5:16 PM] Tron: I'll get the estimate from ISE (time & money) and we can decide from there.
[5:16 PM] Jeroz: Cool
[5:18 PM] Jeroz: Do we have a time schedule yet on what and when we want to release the new stuff? I’ve been mostly occupied elsewhere lately
[5:21 PM] Jeroz: I guess too many peeps are on vacation around this time :p
[5:22 PM] kralverde: ^
[5:24 PM] Tron: I think it is dependent on getting it reviewed. Once we have info from ISE we can decide from there.
[5:27 PM] Tron: I'm still fighting to get an EV code signing cert. Phone number listed on Dun and Bradstreet isn't the one I submitted for EV so it has been rejected. I was told that even a non-EV code signing cert requires third-party verification of a phone number. Working with the Foundation Treasurer to sort this out.
[5:30 PM] Panoramix: Too late indeed. Queue them up for the next audit though, having that extra parameter on CMC matters in the grand scheme
[5:33 PM] Tron: I'll let them know.
[5:36 PM] Tron: Thank you everyone. I'm going to close the meeting, so these don't drag on into the evening for some. I'll work on iOS PRs this week.
July 12, 2021, 04:17:28 AM
The only scammer here is you. Stop trying to blame others for your own inability to secure your devices.
July 11, 2021, 08:22:04 PM
For this coin to be covered with a copper basin!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
The only scammer here is you. Stop trying to blame others for your own inability to secure your devices.
July 11, 2021, 12:27:58 PM
For this coin to be covered with a copper basin!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
You are thieves and crooks!
This project is a big scam!
July 11, 2021, 06:59:15 AM
Pretty much a dead project. Every so often I visit the Discord server to read what the community members are posting. The other day it was redoing the whitepaper into a prettier format. That is all they got at this point.
P2SH is on the testnet about to go live on the mainnet enabling cross-chain atomic swaps.
On-chain swaps between RVN and RVN assets have been gaining a lot of interest on raventrader.net and will be added to core soon (PR submitted).
Core dev team is researching covenants and oracles going forward to bring more DeFi capability without smart contracts.
All of this is in addition to the first fully regulatory compliant STO ever which is just one of the many projects doing business on Ravencoin today (raven.wiki has a growing list).
And yes, Rikki has been working on a branding campaign to turn our whitepaper into a series of NFT collectibles through his platform RVNFT.art. It seemed like a fun way to market the project and engage the community at the same time whilst demonstrating some of the capabilities of Ravencoin's technology.
Next time you visit the Discord I'd recommend checking out the development channels rather than wherever the hell you went.
Nope! I will visit wherever the hell I want to. Don't be mad at me because the project is pretty much dead. Funding has dried up and developers have left. Nothing left but a pipe dream.
We have more developers than at any time previously. Github activity also at all-time highs.
All coding bounties and audits have been funded within hours of posting from both community members as well as the foundation.
The things you are saying are provably false and can be debunked with mere minutes of research.
Sorry, but this is nothing but an occasional pump and dump project. Sometimes its really hard to handle the truth.
Sorry to hear you got dumped on. Why don't you hop on over to the Discord where you can officially join the Dipshit Bagholders Club and wait it out until the next pump.
Plenty of projects to keep you occupied until then - lots of exciting things happening with Ravencoin!
yup lol, as we've said awhile...usual dead shit ass project that sees one pump every 3 yrs or so. "zomg miners are jumping onto RVN blahblahblahbalhabal" lol...ok yeah sure, even if true...for what....a few wks? whales pump their accumulated bags from 1c to 27c and plebs go run to buy, then they just dump on everyone in days. back to 5c now lol. sigh.
If you want an example of a "dead shit ass project" check your sig!
RVN up over 300% YTD outperforming Bitcoin despite the correction with multiple exciting new developments since.
This is exactly what shit projects fall back on when they have nothing. Hey look... The price went up $0.005 this year.
There is also the hope that this shit project gets more attention when ETH goes PoS. It might lead to more people mining this shitcoin, but it will only be to sell the shit for something of value.
Feel free to ignore the price, I only brought it up because someone else did.
"P2SH is on the testnet about to go live on the mainnet enabling cross-chain atomic swaps.
On-chain swaps between RVN and RVN assets have been gaining a lot of interest on raventrader.net and will be added to core soon (PR submitted).
Core dev team is researching covenants and oracles going forward to bring more DeFi capability without smart contracts.
All of this is in addition to the first fully regulatory compliant STO ever which is just one of the many projects doing business on Ravencoin today (raven.wiki has a growing list)."
Ravencoin was also recently added to two more major exchanges in Bulgaria and Indonesia this week.
There's two dev meeting transcripts worth of development updates for you to read above. Also, a community member has recently started a podcast dedicated to Ravencoin updates! You can check out the first episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5jScnrQcJGZSiiEnBUrqIn?si=TWjnLUjiT-aALM2OPoaW0w&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1&nd=1
July 10, 2021, 08:36:10 PM
Pretty much a dead project. Every so often I visit the Discord server to read what the community members are posting. The other day it was redoing the whitepaper into a prettier format. That is all they got at this point.
P2SH is on the testnet about to go live on the mainnet enabling cross-chain atomic swaps.
On-chain swaps between RVN and RVN assets have been gaining a lot of interest on raventrader.net and will be added to core soon (PR submitted).
Core dev team is researching covenants and oracles going forward to bring more DeFi capability without smart contracts.
All of this is in addition to the first fully regulatory compliant STO ever which is just one of the many projects doing business on Ravencoin today (raven.wiki has a growing list).
And yes, Rikki has been working on a branding campaign to turn our whitepaper into a series of NFT collectibles through his platform RVNFT.art. It seemed like a fun way to market the project and engage the community at the same time whilst demonstrating some of the capabilities of Ravencoin's technology.
Next time you visit the Discord I'd recommend checking out the development channels rather than wherever the hell you went.
Nope! I will visit wherever the hell I want to. Don't be mad at me because the project is pretty much dead. Funding has dried up and developers have left. Nothing left but a pipe dream.
We have more developers than at any time previously. Github activity also at all-time highs.
All coding bounties and audits have been funded within hours of posting from both community members as well as the foundation.
The things you are saying are provably false and can be debunked with mere minutes of research.
Sorry, but this is nothing but an occasional pump and dump project. Sometimes its really hard to handle the truth.
Sorry to hear you got dumped on. Why don't you hop on over to the Discord where you can officially join the Dipshit Bagholders Club and wait it out until the next pump.
Plenty of projects to keep you occupied until then - lots of exciting things happening with Ravencoin!
yup lol, as we've said awhile...usual dead shit ass project that sees one pump every 3 yrs or so. "zomg miners are jumping onto RVN blahblahblahbalhabal" lol...ok yeah sure, even if true...for what....a few wks? whales pump their accumulated bags from 1c to 27c and plebs go run to buy, then they just dump on everyone in days. back to 5c now lol. sigh.
If you want an example of a "dead shit ass project" check your sig!
RVN up over 300% YTD outperforming Bitcoin despite the correction with multiple exciting new developments since.
This is exactly what shit projects fall back on when they have nothing. Hey look... The price went up $0.005 this year.
There is also the hope that this shit project gets more attention when ETH goes PoS. It might lead to more people mining this shitcoin, but it will only be to sell the shit for something of value.
July 09, 2021, 07:41:27 PM
Dev Meeting Transcript (July 9, 2021)
[4:04 PM] brianmct: Channel open!
[4:05 PM] Tron: Hello. :wave:
[4:06 PM] kralverde: Hello
[4:11 PM] Tron: Pretty quiet in here. Summer?
[4:12 PM] kralverde: Last meeting started at 1630, so that start time may have lapsed over to this one
[4:13 PM] Tron: It does seem to pick up about 1/2 hour in.
[4:13 PM] Tron: I was reviewing the moontree-working chat.
[4:14 PM] Tron: Not based on Blue Wallet anymore...
[4:14 PM] kralverde: No, they decided to start it back up from scratch
[4:15 PM] kralverde: The codebase seemed dated and they would have a better conceptual understanding if they built it up themselves i believe they said
[4:17 PM] Tron: Oh, I thought it switched to a Monero wallet codebase.
[4:18 PM] kralverde: May be best to see if meta stack is online
[4:33 PM] kralverde: Alright, I guess I’ll start with what I’ve been doing with electrum
[4:35 PM] kralverde: Protocol and server version 1.9 is ready to go, which is essentially adding methods to work with the rest of ravencoin; broadcasts, asset tags, qualifiers, etc
[4:35 PM] kralverde: Still no word from ledger about my PR but theyre famous for their non-communication apparently. I’ll ask again on Monday.
[4:36 PM] kralverde: Electrum 0.4.0 is in its final stage of testing (big help from r2b) and should be out within the week. It lets users create and reissue main, sub, and unique assets
[4:37 PM] kralverde: And yeah thats more or less it
[4:37 PM] Tron: That's great. Thank you!
[4:38 PM] Tron: I'll add your Electrum update to an e-mailed Ravencoin update.
[4:39 PM] kralverde: I know Hans_Schmidt was working with P2SH to ensure everythings working fine with assets with that
[4:40 PM] kralverde: HyperPeek are you around?
[4:42 PM] kralverde: Oh multilanguage seed phrases are being added to core as well
[4:48 PM] WhaleStreet: Correct. canadaduane and meta stack agreed the Bluewallet code was not written very well and mobile emulations were taking 30s-1m between changes.
We switched to a flutter based wallet and have created similar functionality to Bluewallet by combining existing dart libs.
https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven
https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven_electrum_client
https://github.com/moontreeapp/bitcoin_flutter
[4:50 PM] Tron: :thumbsup:
[4:50 PM] kralverde: Awesome, thanks for correcting me, wasnt quite sure
[4:51 PM] WhaleStreet: No worries!
[4:51 PM] Panoramix: Tron What are you currently working on Tron?
[4:51 PM] Tron: Still trying to get an EV signing key. The challenge right now is third-party verification of a phone number.
[4:52 PM] Tron: Trying to get DUN and Bradstreet to add a virtual phone number to their records to satisfy Sectigo's verification process.
[4:53 PM] Tron: Had a call with Equa today. They have a client for which Ravencoin is a great fit.
[4:54 PM] Tron: Consultations with a company that is tokenizing water rights. A big deal right now with the drought conditions in the western US.
[4:54 PM] Panoramix: The smart bottles company?
[4:55 PM] Tron: I don't think so, but we didn't discuss their client's details.
[4:56 PM] Panoramix: :ok_hand:
[4:56 PM] Tron: I'm trying to get a bid from ISE for reviewing the non-P2SH consensus and wallet code.
[4:57 PM] Tron: Had a great call with the founder of ABE about tokenization.
[4:58 PM] Tron: I'm going to be on a panel at the end of August with Vertalo about tokenization.
[4:59 PM] Tron: Set up a meetup.com group for the Cruise - Ravencoin Meetup 2021.
[4:59 PM] Tron: https://www.meetup.com/miami-crypto-currency-meetup-group/
[5:00 PM] Tron: We've had a volunteer to help with the accounting, so I'm transitioning the crypto-side of the reporting to them.
[5:05 PM] Tron: I'll be at Satoshi Roundtable later this month, and I hope to get more information about Watchdog Capital and how Ravencoin can participate.
[5:08 PM] Tron: DM me if anything is being held up or needs approval/merging.
[5:16 PM] kinkajou: Is it worth using them again after two seemingly underwhelming experiences so far?
[5:22 PM] Tron: Excellent question. #1 goal is to make sure the code is safe and secure. I'm open to any suggestions to attain the goal. I did look at one security review company alternative but was underwhelmed by their assigning a non-employee contractor to the job. It is hard to measure success in this area. If they find nothing, does it mean the developers were great (probably), or that the security review was insufficient (possibly).
[5:28 PM] Zen West (Genius): Tron may want to suggest to Bruce to put watchdogcapital.com on https
[5:28 PM] kinkajou: IIRC the reason we went with ISE over Trail of Bits last time was because of availability, right? Might it be worth giving them a second look?
[5:33 PM] Panoramix: Have you considered Certik.org as auditors? Coinmarketcap is adding another paragraph on coins audited by that company
[5:38 PM] Panoramix: BNB, Aave, Kava, Tether, Paxos, Polygon and a ton more coins have audits conducted by Certik.org
[5:42 PM] Panoramix: You get a bonus PR as the icing on the cake
[5:56 PM] Tron: I'll take a look at Certik.org
[6:02 PM] Tron: I reached out via Certik form. Mostly they do smart contract audits, but they also do blockchains.
[6:12 PM] Panoramix: Excellent, get the job done with them when it's possible and please keep us updated on the progress :thumbsup:
[4:04 PM] brianmct: Channel open!
[4:05 PM] Tron: Hello. :wave:
[4:06 PM] kralverde: Hello
[4:11 PM] Tron: Pretty quiet in here. Summer?
[4:12 PM] kralverde: Last meeting started at 1630, so that start time may have lapsed over to this one
[4:13 PM] Tron: It does seem to pick up about 1/2 hour in.
[4:13 PM] Tron: I was reviewing the moontree-working chat.
[4:14 PM] Tron: Not based on Blue Wallet anymore...
[4:14 PM] kralverde: No, they decided to start it back up from scratch
[4:15 PM] kralverde: The codebase seemed dated and they would have a better conceptual understanding if they built it up themselves i believe they said
[4:17 PM] Tron: Oh, I thought it switched to a Monero wallet codebase.
[4:18 PM] kralverde: May be best to see if meta stack is online
[4:33 PM] kralverde: Alright, I guess I’ll start with what I’ve been doing with electrum
[4:35 PM] kralverde: Protocol and server version 1.9 is ready to go, which is essentially adding methods to work with the rest of ravencoin; broadcasts, asset tags, qualifiers, etc
[4:35 PM] kralverde: Still no word from ledger about my PR but theyre famous for their non-communication apparently. I’ll ask again on Monday.
[4:36 PM] kralverde: Electrum 0.4.0 is in its final stage of testing (big help from r2b) and should be out within the week. It lets users create and reissue main, sub, and unique assets
[4:37 PM] kralverde: And yeah thats more or less it
[4:37 PM] Tron: That's great. Thank you!
[4:38 PM] Tron: I'll add your Electrum update to an e-mailed Ravencoin update.
[4:39 PM] kralverde: I know Hans_Schmidt was working with P2SH to ensure everythings working fine with assets with that
[4:40 PM] kralverde: HyperPeek are you around?
[4:42 PM] kralverde: Oh multilanguage seed phrases are being added to core as well
[4:48 PM] WhaleStreet: Correct. canadaduane and meta stack agreed the Bluewallet code was not written very well and mobile emulations were taking 30s-1m between changes.
We switched to a flutter based wallet and have created similar functionality to Bluewallet by combining existing dart libs.
https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven
https://github.com/moontreeapp/raven_electrum_client
https://github.com/moontreeapp/bitcoin_flutter
[4:50 PM] Tron: :thumbsup:
[4:50 PM] kralverde: Awesome, thanks for correcting me, wasnt quite sure
[4:51 PM] WhaleStreet: No worries!
[4:51 PM] Panoramix: Tron What are you currently working on Tron?
[4:51 PM] Tron: Still trying to get an EV signing key. The challenge right now is third-party verification of a phone number.
[4:52 PM] Tron: Trying to get DUN and Bradstreet to add a virtual phone number to their records to satisfy Sectigo's verification process.
[4:53 PM] Tron: Had a call with Equa today. They have a client for which Ravencoin is a great fit.
[4:54 PM] Tron: Consultations with a company that is tokenizing water rights. A big deal right now with the drought conditions in the western US.
[4:54 PM] Panoramix: The smart bottles company?
[4:55 PM] Tron: I don't think so, but we didn't discuss their client's details.
[4:56 PM] Panoramix: :ok_hand:
[4:56 PM] Tron: I'm trying to get a bid from ISE for reviewing the non-P2SH consensus and wallet code.
[4:57 PM] Tron: Had a great call with the founder of ABE about tokenization.
[4:58 PM] Tron: I'm going to be on a panel at the end of August with Vertalo about tokenization.
[4:59 PM] Tron: Set up a meetup.com group for the Cruise - Ravencoin Meetup 2021.
[4:59 PM] Tron: https://www.meetup.com/miami-crypto-currency-meetup-group/
[5:00 PM] Tron: We've had a volunteer to help with the accounting, so I'm transitioning the crypto-side of the reporting to them.
[5:05 PM] Tron: I'll be at Satoshi Roundtable later this month, and I hope to get more information about Watchdog Capital and how Ravencoin can participate.
[5:08 PM] Tron: DM me if anything is being held up or needs approval/merging.
[5:16 PM] kinkajou: Is it worth using them again after two seemingly underwhelming experiences so far?
[5:22 PM] Tron: Excellent question. #1 goal is to make sure the code is safe and secure. I'm open to any suggestions to attain the goal. I did look at one security review company alternative but was underwhelmed by their assigning a non-employee contractor to the job. It is hard to measure success in this area. If they find nothing, does it mean the developers were great (probably), or that the security review was insufficient (possibly).
[5:28 PM] Zen West (Genius): Tron may want to suggest to Bruce to put watchdogcapital.com on https
[5:28 PM] kinkajou: IIRC the reason we went with ISE over Trail of Bits last time was because of availability, right? Might it be worth giving them a second look?
[5:33 PM] Panoramix: Have you considered Certik.org as auditors? Coinmarketcap is adding another paragraph on coins audited by that company
[5:38 PM] Panoramix: BNB, Aave, Kava, Tether, Paxos, Polygon and a ton more coins have audits conducted by Certik.org
[5:42 PM] Panoramix: You get a bonus PR as the icing on the cake
[5:56 PM] Tron: I'll take a look at Certik.org
[6:02 PM] Tron: I reached out via Certik form. Mostly they do smart contract audits, but they also do blockchains.
[6:12 PM] Panoramix: Excellent, get the job done with them when it's possible and please keep us updated on the progress :thumbsup:
July 08, 2021, 07:24:45 AM
Pretty much a dead project. Every so often I visit the Discord server to read what the community members are posting. The other day it was redoing the whitepaper into a prettier format. That is all they got at this point.
P2SH is on the testnet about to go live on the mainnet enabling cross-chain atomic swaps.
On-chain swaps between RVN and RVN assets have been gaining a lot of interest on raventrader.net and will be added to core soon (PR submitted).
Core dev team is researching covenants and oracles going forward to bring more DeFi capability without smart contracts.
All of this is in addition to the first fully regulatory compliant STO ever which is just one of the many projects doing business on Ravencoin today (raven.wiki has a growing list).
And yes, Rikki has been working on a branding campaign to turn our whitepaper into a series of NFT collectibles through his platform RVNFT.art. It seemed like a fun way to market the project and engage the community at the same time whilst demonstrating some of the capabilities of Ravencoin's technology.
Next time you visit the Discord I'd recommend checking out the development channels rather than wherever the hell you went.
Nope! I will visit wherever the hell I want to. Don't be mad at me because the project is pretty much dead. Funding has dried up and developers have left. Nothing left but a pipe dream.
We have more developers than at any time previously. Github activity also at all-time highs.
All coding bounties and audits have been funded within hours of posting from both community members as well as the foundation.
The things you are saying are provably false and can be debunked with mere minutes of research.
Sorry, but this is nothing but an occasional pump and dump project. Sometimes its really hard to handle the truth.
Sorry to hear you got dumped on. Why don't you hop on over to the Discord where you can officially join the Dipshit Bagholders Club and wait it out until the next pump.
Plenty of projects to keep you occupied until then - lots of exciting things happening with Ravencoin!
yup lol, as we've said awhile...usual dead shit ass project that sees one pump every 3 yrs or so. "zomg miners are jumping onto RVN blahblahblahbalhabal" lol...ok yeah sure, even if true...for what....a few wks? whales pump their accumulated bags from 1c to 27c and plebs go run to buy, then they just dump on everyone in days. back to 5c now lol. sigh.
If you want an example of a "dead shit ass project" check your sig!
RVN up over 300% YTD outperforming Bitcoin despite the correction with multiple exciting new developments since.
lmao now that is funny shit , keep trying tho hahahaha. desperate.
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