Topic: [ANN] RightMesh (RMESH) A Decentralized Mobile Mesh Network - page 9. (Read 17340 times)
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Chris Jensen Co-Founder and COO explains the vision behind RightMesh and our parent company Left. https://vimeo.com/233566310
Thank you to all of the supporters and interested people we met in Barcelona. See you in the next conference. 
Join us in Barcelona at October 3 for the BlockChain Solutions Forum
RightMesh's CEO John Lyotier interview on Blockchain 360 podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrL1i2DybiQ&feature=youtu.be
We are in London for the World Blockchain Forum if you are attending come and say Hello.
This is a live stream of the Blockchain Hackathon in Mumbai, our team will be presenting in 4 pm local time. https://youtu.be/sP_XvJpFGn4
Another update that the team surprised me with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSRjoU_9A9g
One of the challenges that we face is how to show a platform and protocol when the output is invisible beams of light being sent between devices when there is no internet and no connectivity (and is why we are investing time and money building apps that we will release as Open Source projects). I thought this video showed this off pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSRjoU_9A9g
One of the challenges that we face is how to show a platform and protocol when the output is invisible beams of light being sent between devices when there is no internet and no connectivity (and is why we are investing time and money building apps that we will release as Open Source projects). I thought this video showed this off pretty well.
This demo is on the right track. Probably not that impressive to anyone else who defaults to "cool story bro. I also have 4g" mindset
Maybe in person start the demo by having people volunteer to preload the app and remove their SIM's from their phones first.
Another update that the team surprised me with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSRjoU_9A9g
One of the challenges that we face is how to show a platform and protocol when the output is invisible beams of light being sent between devices when there is no internet and no connectivity (and is why we are investing time and money building apps that we will release as Open Source projects). I thought this video showed this off pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSRjoU_9A9g
One of the challenges that we face is how to show a platform and protocol when the output is invisible beams of light being sent between devices when there is no internet and no connectivity (and is why we are investing time and money building apps that we will release as Open Source projects). I thought this video showed this off pretty well.
A few quick updates:
Before I started what appears to be a 2-month road trip away from the office and my family (Zurich, London, Munich, Dubai, Barcelona, Mumbai, Santa Monica, San Francisco, and NYC... are all stops on our world tour), I found 15 minutes on a quiet Sunday to create a virtual tour of our office. While we would love for everyone to visit, we know that is not possible. Here is where we work, or at least, this is the Canadian headquarters where I work when not on an airplane or in a hotel room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qACg2a1VaVQ
Second, Chris Jensen, one of the other co-founders is talking about RightMesh at the ICO Summit here in Zurich later today (4:30PM CET, 10:30am EST). However, the entire day is being live streamed for free. Watch Chris and other panelists here discuss the current token generation and ICO markets here: https://icosummit.ch/zurich-2017/
- John
Before I started what appears to be a 2-month road trip away from the office and my family (Zurich, London, Munich, Dubai, Barcelona, Mumbai, Santa Monica, San Francisco, and NYC... are all stops on our world tour), I found 15 minutes on a quiet Sunday to create a virtual tour of our office. While we would love for everyone to visit, we know that is not possible. Here is where we work, or at least, this is the Canadian headquarters where I work when not on an airplane or in a hotel room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qACg2a1VaVQ
Second, Chris Jensen, one of the other co-founders is talking about RightMesh at the ICO Summit here in Zurich later today (4:30PM CET, 10:30am EST). However, the entire day is being live streamed for free. Watch Chris and other panelists here discuss the current token generation and ICO markets here: https://icosummit.ch/zurich-2017/
- John
Our John Lyotier's latest blogpost:
A Global Experiment in Wealth Creation via Connectivity & Blockchain
The Internet is sometimes described as a global brain, a network connecting the thoughts and ideas of humanity.
But it falls short in one obvious way: only about half of the world is online.
Read more on Medium:
https://medium.com/@lyotier/a-global-experiment-in-wealth-creation-via-connectivity-blockchain-ff0bfbe9ec82
A Global Experiment in Wealth Creation via Connectivity & Blockchain
The Internet is sometimes described as a global brain, a network connecting the thoughts and ideas of humanity.
But it falls short in one obvious way: only about half of the world is online.
Read more on Medium:
https://medium.com/@lyotier/a-global-experiment-in-wealth-creation-via-connectivity-blockchain-ff0bfbe9ec82
Thanks for reading it through @fathamburger.
We have an internal joke in the office that we called "David's Law", whereby every time he did a Git check-in the performance of the network doubled. I don't think that will continue for very long, but we have a lot of ideas for network performance enhancements that will take several years (and many more smart people too).
We have an internal joke in the office that we called "David's Law", whereby every time he did a Git check-in the performance of the network doubled. I don't think that will continue for very long, but we have a lot of ideas for network performance enhancements that will take several years (and many more smart people too).
David's Law is literally priceless lol. Hopefully it takes you a lot longer to hit the point of diminishing returns
Further thinking on it, the next nearest (physically) rule == better has been in place far too long that we've been stuck with since the early days of X.25 networks, token ring etc. Network architecture assuming some kind of fixed naturally fast cable in an office. Even if you guys dont get there, if in the process this mindset is finally jettisoned as a byproduct I'd consider it mission successful lol
I love bashing Australia but my connection to my last boss being half an hour away in the same city in Sydney was worse (sub 5mbit) than if I gave him a call now from virtually anywhere across the world with an ocean between us. That was the happiest part for me reading the white paper, quality of connection is what matters regardless of location and building of best fit logical routes
Make sure everyone who works with you or for you, feels the need to tell others about the incredible experience.
Agree completely. When we started down this journey several years ago, Chris (the other co-founder) and myself were walking down the esplanade of the Charles River in Boston. We had just come from a very successful meeting for the legacy side of the business that is/was travel tech related. We had a choice to make: to proceed down this path into the unknown of mesh connectivity, or to go down the safe and secure path for what was already working. I would like to say that it was an even ledger with an equal number of plus and minus votes on each side, but it wasn't. The only reason for us to say 'yes' to mesh connectivity, was this, "If we do this right, we can change the world."
So we jumped.
At the very start, and still maintain the same philosophy today, the only way that we will be able to pull this off is to start a movement if you will. Get people to see and understand that we can build a better Internet and a better world. I wrote a blog post about this several years ago (https://www.rightmesh.io/starting-a-movement-making-a-connected-world-a-friendlier-place/) that I forgot about until you wrote... but this is what it is about... starting a movement.
All of this being said, what we realized after talking to different users, however -- from Cuba and Colombia, to India and Bangladesh -- is everyone wanted to believe in the movement, but they nearly unanimously asked, "What's in it for me?" This was when we started to explore tokenization and incentivization.
Now, we will be able to change the world, and let people's self-interest work in tandem with, rather than via opposed to this starting vision. I just finished up a powerpoint for a talk that I am giving later this week at a conference called, "Can you reduce global poverty and lift up entire economies without doing a damn thing?" Not to be a spoiler here, but I think the answer is a resounding 'YES'.
Nice project...I will be watching closely =)
Thanks for reading it through @fathamburger.
A large part of the routing algorithms have come via our sciences team. We have some incredibly smart people who have been at this for a long time. To get a sense as to how they approach things, here are the Google scholar links for Dr. Jason Ernst - our Chief Networking Scientist, and Dr. Zehau (David) Wang, our Applied Research Scientist:
Jason: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=SbUmSEAAAAAJ
David - https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=pquTtPYAAAAJ
We have an internal joke in the office that we called "David's Law", whereby every time he did a Git check-in the performance of the network doubled. I don't think that will continue for very long, but we have a lot of ideas for network performance enhancements that will take several years (and many more smart people too).
A large part of the routing algorithms have come via our sciences team. We have some incredibly smart people who have been at this for a long time. To get a sense as to how they approach things, here are the Google scholar links for Dr. Jason Ernst - our Chief Networking Scientist, and Dr. Zehau (David) Wang, our Applied Research Scientist:
Jason: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=SbUmSEAAAAAJ
David - https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=pquTtPYAAAAJ
We have an internal joke in the office that we called "David's Law", whereby every time he did a Git check-in the performance of the network doubled. I don't think that will continue for very long, but we have a lot of ideas for network performance enhancements that will take several years (and many more smart people too).
Make sure everyone who works with you or for you, feels the need to tell others about the incredible experience.
Took me awhile to get through the whitepaper.
Theres a very interesting point in there that maybe should be more front and center, the pointing out of the widening of the haves vs havenots in connectivity. The original name I joked around about may not be so appropriate then. Maybe it should have been TheOtherInternet lol.
People with a first world mindset will just automatically assume that it's going to be 5G for everyone and you guys point out that's not remotely scalable. Most of the world living mostly on 2G is a reality I as an Australian still face (shitty internet is an Australian national value) while being leapfrogged by most of SE asia and half of Africa is now the norm.
The fact that 5G is unscalable makes development on something like RightMesh even more of a necessity. This is one where thinking about Moons/Lambos etc should take a back seat to investing in an actually serious problem to be solved.
I assume you mean what sort of density can be addressed? This is a large part of our next phase of testing. Theoretically, we can blanket a large town (and we are getting set up to do so in the small town of Rigolet up in northern Canada already), but I'm talking about a large town. Here is a video showing 100 concurrent connections to a single node. Each of those edge nodes could have similar performance and so on, and so on, and so on... where each node switches between networks or talks to multiple networks at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxttyiQZRY
Where we differentiate from previous mesh attempts is that we do not naively broadcast to neighboring nodes. This would be an unscaleable method. We have routing algorithms that identify the most efficient or 'best' routes between nodes that can send data at _ Mbps over a multitude of hops. And over time, this can get faster and faster.
Once again back to the theoretical, we have been modeling what it would take to blanket certain large urban centers, and we believe this is possible.
This looks very promising, good that the routes are based on minimum Mbps thresholds and not just next closest node. Node scalability in # of connections also looks like a promising start Not gonna ask to get into algorithm details but it is nice that you're already moving past the "broadcast spam" standard of today
Theres a very interesting point in there that maybe should be more front and center, the pointing out of the widening of the haves vs havenots in connectivity. The original name I joked around about may not be so appropriate then. Maybe it should have been TheOtherInternet lol.
People with a first world mindset will just automatically assume that it's going to be 5G for everyone and you guys point out that's not remotely scalable. Most of the world living mostly on 2G is a reality I as an Australian still face (shitty internet is an Australian national value) while being leapfrogged by most of SE asia and half of Africa is now the norm.
The fact that 5G is unscalable makes development on something like RightMesh even more of a necessity. This is one where thinking about Moons/Lambos etc should take a back seat to investing in an actually serious problem to be solved.
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What is the level of power that RightMesh can take on? Meaning how much connectivity can it provide based on users? I would imagine it is quite extensive but I am interested to know how self-powering the system can be.
I assume you mean what sort of density can be addressed? This is a large part of our next phase of testing. Theoretically, we can blanket a large town (and we are getting set up to do so in the small town of Rigolet up in northern Canada already), but I'm talking about a large town. Here is a video showing 100 concurrent connections to a single node. Each of those edge nodes could have similar performance and so on, and so on, and so on... where each node switches between networks or talks to multiple networks at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxttyiQZRY
Where we differentiate from previous mesh attempts is that we do not naively broadcast to neighboring nodes. This would be an unscaleable method. We have routing algorithms that identify the most efficient or 'best' routes between nodes that can send data at _ Mbps over a multitude of hops. And over time, this can get faster and faster.
Once again back to the theoretical, we have been modeling what it would take to blanket certain large urban centers, and we believe this is possible.
This looks very promising, good that the routes are based on minimum Mbps thresholds and not just next closest node. Node scalability in # of connections also looks like a promising start
Not gonna ask to get into algorithm details but it is nice that you're already moving past the "broadcast spam" standard of today Quote
What is the level of power that RightMesh can take on? Meaning how much connectivity can it provide based on users? I would imagine it is quite extensive but I am interested to know how self-powering the system can be.
I assume you mean what sort of density can be addressed? This is a large part of our next phase of testing. Theoretically, we can blanket a large town (and we are getting set up to do so in the small town of Rigolet up in northern Canada already), but I'm talking about a large town. Here is a video showing 100 concurrent connections to a single node. Each of those edge nodes could have similar performance and so on, and so on, and so on... where each node switches between networks or talks to multiple networks at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxttyiQZRY
Where we differentiate from previous mesh attempts is that we do not naively broadcast to neighboring nodes. This would be an unscaleable method. We have routing algorithms that identify the most efficient or 'best' routes between nodes that can send data at _ Mbps over a multitude of hops. And over time, this can get faster and faster.
Once again back to the theoretical, we have been modeling what it would take to blanket certain large urban centers, and we believe this is possible.
Sounds good, thanks for letting me know. Sorry that that was not the most articulate of questions LOL
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You will develop a software that without rooting a mobile you will be able to use its radio capabilities in order to create a Mesh Network for the app users
That is correct. When we started down this journey, we realized we could take the 'easy' approach of hardware. But with 6 billion smart phones expected in the world by 2020 each of which can broadcast and receive signal, the hardware already exists (or soon will be). The challenge of course was to do this without flashing the device, as this would completely limit growth.
One of the primary inventions is what we call 'MeshPorts' that allows the multiple apps to use the same common core on a single device. So you could have 5-10+ apps all running the same core, and thus... the data could hop between different devices even if the routing/infrastructure devices in the middle had installed apps that were not used by nodes at the start and end of the journey.
Very good... I can see the potencial here... Will keep an eye for updates good luck
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You will develop a software that without rooting a mobile you will be able to use its radio capabilities in order to create a Mesh Network for the app users
That is correct. When we started down this journey, we realized we could take the 'easy' approach of hardware. But with 6 billion smart phones expected in the world by 2020 each of which can broadcast and receive signal, the hardware already exists (or soon will be). The challenge of course was to do this without flashing the device, as this would completely limit growth.
One of the primary inventions is what we call 'MeshPorts' that allows the multiple apps to use the same common core on a single device. So you could have 5-10+ apps all running the same core, and thus... the data could hop between different devices even if the routing/infrastructure devices in the middle had installed apps that were not used by nodes at the start and end of the journey.
https://i.imgur.com/E4Dttfg.png
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